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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 19,056
    marvda1 wrote: »
    $2200 amp

    Right, sorry! I was too lazy to go back & look. I remembered the currency issue, but forgot which was which.

  • marvda1marvda1 Posts: 3,184
    edited August 4
    good thing I got my order in before they announced the U.S. distributor. the amp now goes for $2500.

    demand is up for the amp, ordered mine 7/31 and it is scheduled to ship at the end of next week.
    Amplifiers: MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800, Usher R1.5
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Transport/Dac: Cayin Venus cd-100i, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkI
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra
    Speaker Cables: Analysis Plus Black Mesh Oval 9, Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Interconnects: Analysis Plus Copper Oval-In Micro, MG Audio Design Planus Cu2,
    Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Power Cables by: Cullen Cables, 6sons Audio, Swiss Cables
  • lightman1lightman1 Posts: 9,863
    Lemme hold your wallet, Marvin!
  • marvda1marvda1 Posts: 3,184
    edited August 9
    top amp $9k 50 watt, class a/b integrated amp.
    bottom integrated amp $2.5k class a/b 200 watt.

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    top amp has two 160va transformers, bottom amp has two 300va transformers and weighs more.
    I believe the top amp is made in the us while the bottom amp is made in china.

    Amplifiers: MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800, Usher R1.5
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Transport/Dac: Cayin Venus cd-100i, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkI
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra
    Speaker Cables: Analysis Plus Black Mesh Oval 9, Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Interconnects: Analysis Plus Copper Oval-In Micro, MG Audio Design Planus Cu2,
    Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Power Cables by: Cullen Cables, 6sons Audio, Swiss Cables
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 15,937
    The bottom one looks so pretty I'd almost run it with the hood off!
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  • marvda1marvda1 Posts: 3,184
    marvda1 wrote: »
    top amp $9k 50 watt, class a/b integrated amp.
    bottom integrated amp $2.5k class a/b 200 watt.

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    top amp has two 160va transformers, bottom amp has two 300va transformers and weighs more.
    I believe the top amp is made in the us while the bottom amp is made in china.
    forget the top picture, grabbed the wrong one, that's a preamp...oops :*
    Amplifiers: MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800, Usher R1.5
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Transport/Dac: Cayin Venus cd-100i, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkI
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra
    Speaker Cables: Analysis Plus Black Mesh Oval 9, Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Interconnects: Analysis Plus Copper Oval-In Micro, MG Audio Design Planus Cu2,
    Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Power Cables by: Cullen Cables, 6sons Audio, Swiss Cables
  • marvda1marvda1 Posts: 3,184
    amp cleared customs in ohio today and is scheduled to deliver Thursday.
    can't wait.
    Amplifiers: MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800, Usher R1.5
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Transport/Dac: Cayin Venus cd-100i, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkI
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra
    Speaker Cables: Analysis Plus Black Mesh Oval 9, Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Interconnects: Analysis Plus Copper Oval-In Micro, MG Audio Design Planus Cu2,
    Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Power Cables by: Cullen Cables, 6sons Audio, Swiss Cables
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 19,056
    ooooh! cool!
    keep us posted! :)
    and pics! We want pics!
    (well, I do, anyway.)

  • marvda1marvda1 Posts: 3,184
    edited August 17
    DEAR GOD!! some of the best money ever spent.
    Amplifiers: MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800, Usher R1.5
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Transport/Dac: Cayin Venus cd-100i, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkI
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra
    Speaker Cables: Analysis Plus Black Mesh Oval 9, Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Interconnects: Analysis Plus Copper Oval-In Micro, MG Audio Design Planus Cu2,
    Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Power Cables by: Cullen Cables, 6sons Audio, Swiss Cables
  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 23,863
    edited August 17
    Really after a day of listening and you can proclaim that? It takes me weeks, sometimes months to analyze a new piece of gear and form an opinion.

    This must be the greatest piece of audio gear since sliced bread was invented :D
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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  • marvda1marvda1 Posts: 3,184
    edited August 17
    you mean 20 minutes. manufacturer suggests 300 hours burn in, but out the box you can tell it's something special. heavy as all get out, i'm on crutches and dhl would not take it up stairs for me, had to put it on the steps. i could pick it up and skip every other step until i got it to the top. i'll post some pictures later.

    got a $2.8k Unison Research Nuovo and it's not in the same league.
    p.s, it will be up for sale shortly.
    Amplifiers: MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800, Usher R1.5
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Transport/Dac: Cayin Venus cd-100i, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkI
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra
    Speaker Cables: Analysis Plus Black Mesh Oval 9, Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Interconnects: Analysis Plus Copper Oval-In Micro, MG Audio Design Planus Cu2,
    Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Power Cables by: Cullen Cables, 6sons Audio, Swiss Cables
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 19,056
    edited August 17
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Really after a day of listening and you can proclaim that? It takes me weeks, sometimes months to analyze a new piece of gear and form an opinion.

    This must be the greatest piece of audio gear since sliced bread was invented :D

    Sometimes a component can make a very good first impression.
    Quad ESL-57 did that for me; I have a flashbulb memory of the first time I heard 'em... and I've never been disappointed by them, either. Ditto the Altec Duplexes.

    Heck, I own a pair of both (OK, a pair of Quads and two pairs of Duplexes... but this isn't about speakers)
    ;)


    I will look forward to a little elaboration on his initial impression though. :)

    Kinda reminds me of Astronaut Dave Bowman's last words when he enountered the orbiting monolith.
    "The thing's hollow -- it goes on forever -- and -- oh my God! -- it's full of stars!"
    (from the book, not the movie)

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  • marvda1marvda1 Posts: 3,184
    edited August 17
    it has a tight grip on the bass, fast, good tonality, has detail but not the hyper type. full body piano. dead quiet background. pinpoint imaging. highs are not harsh but flowing.
    i'll write a mini review here as i am going to write a full review for alvin so he can post it on their web site.
    the bass driver in my speakers is in a sealed enclosure and the bass is tight and powerful. kinki says 300 hours to burn in, if it gets any better i may be selling off a lot of equipment.
    getting down with some buika.

    fit and finish is hot, you know how us guys like to play two big knobs. thing is heavy, dhl would not bring it upstairs for me as i'm on crutches. had to put on one step at a time.
    Amplifiers: MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800, Usher R1.5
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Transport/Dac: Cayin Venus cd-100i, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkI
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra
    Speaker Cables: Analysis Plus Black Mesh Oval 9, Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Interconnects: Analysis Plus Copper Oval-In Micro, MG Audio Design Planus Cu2,
    Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Power Cables by: Cullen Cables, 6sons Audio, Swiss Cables
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,724
    Glad that your initial impression of it is positive. When you get tired of listening to it, pop the top and take some photos!
    Got Dayens?
  • marvda1marvda1 Posts: 3,184
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Glad that your initial impression of it is positive. When you get tired of listening to it, pop the top and take some photos!

    there are pictures of the inside at the beginning of the thread. will post unboxing pics after dinner.
    Amplifiers: MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800, Usher R1.5
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Transport/Dac: Cayin Venus cd-100i, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkI
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra
    Speaker Cables: Analysis Plus Black Mesh Oval 9, Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Interconnects: Analysis Plus Copper Oval-In Micro, MG Audio Design Planus Cu2,
    Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Power Cables by: Cullen Cables, 6sons Audio, Swiss Cables
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,724
    @mhardy6647 taught me that there's a difference between user-taken guts photos, and guts photos taken and provided by the manufacturer.
    Got Dayens?
  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 9,902
    marvda1 wrote: »
    i'm on crutches and dhl would not take it up stairs for me, had to put it on the steps. i could pick it up and skip every other step until i got it to the top. i'll post some pictures later.

    You said you were going to post pics of you on crutches going up the stairs....where are they?

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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,724
    Yeah, the DHL guy wouldn't help him carry it up the stairs, but he stood there and took pictures while Marvin struggled on crutches to carry it up. How rude.
    Got Dayens?
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,386
    Doing a little spec research shows a damping factor of 2000!!! That's extremely high. In fact, I cannot recall seeing a rating that high before. I might be wrong, but that seems to indicate a ton of global feedback, which is not a good thing.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 19,056
    F1nut wrote: »
    Doing a little spec research shows a damping factor of 2000!!! That's extremely high. In fact, I cannot recall seeing a rating that high before. I might be wrong, but that seems to indicate a ton of global feedback, which is not a good thing.

    Yes it is high - - the super-high DF was a thing in the late 1970s... I seem to recall some Soundcraftsmen amps with crazy high DF (i.e., low output impedance).

    Yes it is achieved, first and foremost, by (global) NFB -- I am no fan of global NFB in general and certainly worry about poorly implemented NFB, but I think that nowadays, the better designers have a reasonable handle on proper implementation of feedback, but I do conucr that the cure can be far worse than the disease*.

    One will recall the infamous Polk Cobra Cables, which presented a reactive (high capacitance) load and which could drive a marginally stable amplifier (e.g., one with too much and casually implemented NFB) into ultrasonic oscillation followed by self-immolation. :)

    But high amounts of NFB aren't necessarily disastrous a priori.

    I will mention, in closing, that that hack Nelson Pass :) pretty much eschews NFB in his designs.



  • marvda1marvda1 Posts: 3,184
    I think the highest damping I have seen on an amp is 1000.
    Amplifiers: MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800, Usher R1.5
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Transport/Dac: Cayin Venus cd-100i, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkI
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra
    Speaker Cables: Analysis Plus Black Mesh Oval 9, Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Interconnects: Analysis Plus Copper Oval-In Micro, MG Audio Design Planus Cu2,
    Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Power Cables by: Cullen Cables, 6sons Audio, Swiss Cables
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 19,056
    marvda1 wrote: »
    I think the highest damping I have seen on an amp is 1000.

    Guess you need a Crown PA amp, bubeleh!

    ;)

  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,386
    marvda1 wrote: »
    I think the highest damping I have seen on an amp is 1000.

    Yep, me too. In fact, I had a Rotel with that rating. It was painful on the ears.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • marvda1marvda1 Posts: 3,184
    unboxing pics.
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    Amplifiers: MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800, Usher R1.5
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Transport/Dac: Cayin Venus cd-100i, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkI
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra
    Speaker Cables: Analysis Plus Black Mesh Oval 9, Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Interconnects: Analysis Plus Copper Oval-In Micro, MG Audio Design Planus Cu2,
    Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Power Cables by: Cullen Cables, 6sons Audio, Swiss Cables
  • marvda1marvda1 Posts: 3,184
    unboxing pics.
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    Amplifiers: MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800, Usher R1.5
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Transport/Dac: Cayin Venus cd-100i, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkI
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra
    Speaker Cables: Analysis Plus Black Mesh Oval 9, Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Interconnects: Analysis Plus Copper Oval-In Micro, MG Audio Design Planus Cu2,
    Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Power Cables by: Cullen Cables, 6sons Audio, Swiss Cables
  • marvda1marvda1 Posts: 3,184
    F1nut wrote: »
    marvda1 wrote: »
    I think the highest damping I have seen on an amp is 1000.

    Yep, me too. In fact, I had a Rotel with that rating. It was painful on the ears.
    the kinki ex-m1 is anything but harsh or painful on the ears.
    Amplifiers: MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800, Usher R1.5
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Transport/Dac: Cayin Venus cd-100i, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkI
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra
    Speaker Cables: Analysis Plus Black Mesh Oval 9, Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Interconnects: Analysis Plus Copper Oval-In Micro, MG Audio Design Planus Cu2,
    Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Power Cables by: Cullen Cables, 6sons Audio, Swiss Cables
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,386
    marvda1 wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    marvda1 wrote: »
    I think the highest damping I have seen on an amp is 1000.

    Yep, me too. In fact, I had a Rotel with that rating. It was painful on the ears.
    the kinki ex-m1 is anything but harsh or painful on the ears.

    I picked up on that. B)

    Purdy thing, for sure!
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 19,056
    F1nut wrote: »
    marvda1 wrote: »
    I think the highest damping I have seen on an amp is 1000.

    Yep, me too. In fact, I had a Rotel with that rating. It was painful on the ears.

    Where's Oprah when we need her?
    You get a Crown!
    You get a Crown!
    And you get a
    Crown!

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