Speaker Cables

Looking for some better cables to connect the pristine Monitor 11 RTAs I got from Jesse. Don’t want to spend too much, but these speakers deserve better than the Monoprice 14 AWG in-wall cables with el-cheap-o bananas on the ends that I had laying around.

Could use anywhere from 6’ to 10’ cables. Would like banana/banana or banana/spade terminations. Anyone looking to part with anything that might work?
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  • marvda1marvda1 Posts: 3,192
    what is too much $ ?
    Amplifiers: MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800, Usher R1.5
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Transport/Dac: Cayin Venus cd-100i, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkI
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra
    Speaker Cables: Analysis Plus Black Mesh Oval 9, Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Interconnects: Analysis Plus Copper Oval-In Micro, MG Audio Design Planus Cu2,
    Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Power Cables by: Cullen Cables, 6sons Audio, Swiss Cables
  • scubalabscubalab Posts: 2,420
    Would like to stay under $75 for now.
  • scubalabscubalab Posts: 2,420
    Thanks for the link Drew!

    What’s weird is a 10’ pair is $5 less than an 8’ pair... :o
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,789
    edited June 28
    The sizing to pricing and termination options were strange. For example certain terminations are only available on certain sizes. Fortunately it worked out for me, I got a 4' pair pins/spades.

    Also, I just went from Monoprice 14ga OFC to these AQ Type 2 and so far so good.

    Full review coming soon! ;)
    Got Dayens?
  • scubalabscubalab Posts: 2,420
    Still looking...

    The Audioquest are tempting, and I'll likely give them a try for that price. Before I order, I thought I'd see if anyone has something with a nicer finish that they may be willing to part with. Since these cables will be visible, something with a nicer finish (tech-flex) would be preferred.
  • DForemanDForeman Posts: 443
    I've got a 6' pair of Signal Cable Ultras - they are spade/spade though. Say $80 shipped.
    Parasound P5 Pre
    Marantz AV 7703 Pre/Pro
    Outlaw 7500 Amp
    Marantz SA14s1 SACD/CD
    Rega Planar 2 TT
    Polk Audio Speakers: LSiM 705 Fronts, LC65FX Surround, LSiM 704c
    Oppo BDP-103
  • marvda1marvda1 Posts: 3,192
    edited July 4
    zu audio has an ebay store where you can bid on their discontinued cables. I got a 10 ft pair of their libtec speaker cables, retail for $1000+ for a little over $100.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/ZU-AUDIO-LIBTEC-10ft-3-0m-Hi-Fi-Loudspeaker-Cables-Matched-Pair-NEW/113126990547?epid=678760801&hash=item1a56e4e2d3:g:QkYAAOSwYHxWPO1a
    Amplifiers: MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800, Usher R1.5
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Transport/Dac: Cayin Venus cd-100i, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkI
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra
    Speaker Cables: Analysis Plus Black Mesh Oval 9, Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Interconnects: Analysis Plus Copper Oval-In Micro, MG Audio Design Planus Cu2,
    Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Power Cables by: Cullen Cables, 6sons Audio, Swiss Cables
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 4,621
    Pm sent al
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio Nova Integrated; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10 + MartinLogan Dynamo (original) sub; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - SVS PB10-ISD; LG UP870 4K BDP

    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; Audiosource Amp Two, PSB Imagine B, Boston VR-10 center, NHT Super One CI surrounds, ACI Titan subwoofer, Squeezebox Touch
  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 2,787
    edited July 15
    I just purchase recently a pair of ZU Mission speaker cables in their Ebay store, 8' for $77.00! The bonus is these sound great and the service was outstanding.
    2 channel: Anthem 225 Integrated amp; Parasound Ztuner; TechnicsTT SL1350; Vincent PHO-8 phono pre; Marantz CD6005 spinner; Polk Signature S60's;Cables: Wireworld Eclipse IC; Audioquest Big Sur IC; LAT International speaker cables; PS Audio AC-3 power cords, all into a PS Audio Dectet Power center.

    All TV's sound enhanced by Polk Magnfi Mini's.

    Other; SDA2BTL's, M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage.

    Political memes posted as fact and accepted as fact, are sign language of the ignorant, for the ignorant

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  • scubalabscubalab Posts: 2,420
    I’d been watching and bidding on (here and there) the Zu Mission and Libtec cables. Finally won a 10’ pair of Libtec SCs tonight at a nice price (just over 70 bucks). Anxious to try them out.

    Question on the terminations... is been thinking bananas on the amp end and spades on the speaker end. However, I’m wondering if spades will work with the terminal cup on the back of the Monitor 11s. Are they angled at all? Is the connection short enough or flexible enough to fit? If anyone (@marvda1 or @motorhead43026)who has these could confirm (pics might help) that would be great. Also, would you recommend the standard (1/4”) or oversized (5/16”) spades? The 1/4” will work with the Polks, but if I ever wanted to use them with my Paradigms, they’d need to be 5/16”. Just wondering if the 1/4” are stepped, or if not, would the 1/16” play be an issue.

    Thanks much,
    -Al
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 11,098
    Go bananas. Too much pressure on those plastic nuts they will strip or break in two.
    They can be fragile.
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,072
    edited July 15
    Hey funny story @scubalab..... I was "thhhiiiissss" close to bidding on those for my loft setup lol.

    I've been watching all the Libtec SC, Mission and Event SC, and a 3.5mm to Rca on their store.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • marvda1marvda1 Posts: 3,192
    I ordered 5/16" spades on both ends. most times it's spades on the amp end and bananas on the speaker end for those of us that change speakers in and out a lot.
    Amplifiers: MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800, Usher R1.5
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Transport/Dac: Cayin Venus cd-100i, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkI
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra
    Speaker Cables: Analysis Plus Black Mesh Oval 9, Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Interconnects: Analysis Plus Copper Oval-In Micro, MG Audio Design Planus Cu2,
    Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Power Cables by: Cullen Cables, 6sons Audio, Swiss Cables
  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 2,787
    If you want spades on the speaker ends order the 5/16 as mentioned. I ordered 1/4" for the speaker ends wanting something that would fit tighter. They are tight alright as I had to spread the opening with pliers just a tiny bit and work then on the posts.
    Not a big deal but shouldn't be necessary. Bananas on the amp end are all I ever use and yes the spades are angled, at least the 1/4" are.
    2 channel: Anthem 225 Integrated amp; Parasound Ztuner; TechnicsTT SL1350; Vincent PHO-8 phono pre; Marantz CD6005 spinner; Polk Signature S60's;Cables: Wireworld Eclipse IC; Audioquest Big Sur IC; LAT International speaker cables; PS Audio AC-3 power cords, all into a PS Audio Dectet Power center.

    All TV's sound enhanced by Polk Magnfi Mini's.

    Other; SDA2BTL's, M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage.

    Political memes posted as fact and accepted as fact, are sign language of the ignorant, for the ignorant

    tonyb said " but even socialists can do a good thing here and there
  • mantismantis Posts: 15,029
    If you find yourself unhappy with them hit me up, I have a few things in stock you might like.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • scubalabscubalab Posts: 2,420
    edited July 16
    mantis wrote: »
    If you find yourself unhappy with them hit me up, I have a few things in stock you might like.

    Sure... NOW you tell me Dan! Seriously though, I appreciate it. I'll let you know if I still need anything.

    For now though, I went with the oversized spades on the amp end and bananas on the speaker end of the Zu Libtecs. I spoke to someone at their shop and agree with motorhead - their customer service so far has been wonderful - very helpful.
  • mantismantis Posts: 15,029
    Cool man good luck with them. I hope they work out for yeah.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • marvda1marvda1 Posts: 3,192
    let us know what you think when you get the cables in.
    Amplifiers: MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800, Usher R1.5
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Transport/Dac: Cayin Venus cd-100i, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkI
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra
    Speaker Cables: Analysis Plus Black Mesh Oval 9, Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Interconnects: Analysis Plus Copper Oval-In Micro, MG Audio Design Planus Cu2,
    Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Power Cables by: Cullen Cables, 6sons Audio, Swiss Cables
  • scubalabscubalab Posts: 2,420
    Got these on Friday, and due to a busy (traveling) weekend and some other issues, I did not get a chance to give them much of an audition yet. I will say that I'm not the best at 'reviews' when it comes to describing sonic performance!

    What I can say is that from a customer service standpoint, and fit and finish of these cables, I would have expected to pay A LOT more! These are, by far, some of the nicest cables I have purchased. I paid about the same price/foot for these as I did for some pre-owned Signal Cable Ultra's a couple years ago that had to be terminated. While the Signal Cables were nice cables and well worth what I paid, they didn't even come close to the craftsmanship, aesthetics, and quality of the Zu Audio Libtecs.

    These cables are BIG - about 1/2" (maybe more) in diameter. However, they are surprisingly flexible for their gauge. The tech-flex like sleeving is very well made. Heat shrink over the splitters as well as at the terminations was done very nicely. Terminations are nicer than I was expecting. At the speaker end I opted for banana plugs. They are low profile, but nicely spring-loaded and hold nicely where the old cables I used were very loose. The amp end has copper spades that both look good, and feel solid, yet slightly flexible enough to aid in the tight connection on the back of the B&K. (The binding posts on the B&K only allow the spades to be inserted from below, so I had to slightly bend/curve the cable since it was so close to the bottom and the cable was hitting the rack shelf.)

    Packaging was a lot nicer than I expected. These came double-boxed - the outer box was a perfect (custom) fit plain cardboard package. The inner box was the Zu Audio packaging - very sturdy, well made, and presented well. Inside, both cables were individually packaged in sealed plastic bags. Each of the terminations had a nice piece of sturdy tech-flex-like sleeving protecting the bananas and spades. Also in the box was some company literature, an "owner's manual", and a terminal polishing pad (nice touch). Everything looked great, was presented as new, and was high quality.

    As far as sound - I'm not the best judge of sonic signature descriptions, and I typically cannot hear much, if any, changes in the sound with different cables. I can say that I still heard music, and it sounded dammmmm fine!

    The cables are silver/copper with Teflon and as such it is recommended that they be allowed up to 400 hours for burn-in. It will be quite some time before I hit that amount of time on the cables, so I may install them on an integrated and let some music play several hours a day. And, at that rate, I likely won't "notice" any changes in sound.

    Bottom line - I'd highly recommend these cables. The folks at Zu Audio were a pleasure to talk to. Their eBay sales are killer deals. Shipping was crazy fast (I talked to them on Monday morning, requested the terminations, and paid later in the day, and had these at my door by noon on Friday. Not bad for custom terminated cables delivered from Utah to Pennsylvania! Price was insane. After seeing the quality of these cables, even my cheap butt would have paid $200 - $300 for them. I feel like I got one heck of a deal at just under $90 delivered!
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,789
    Nice. Sounds like the fit and finish is top notch. They're going to be at an audio show I'm going to this weekend, so I'm hoping to get a chance to talk shop with them and hear their speakers. Thanks for the review.
    Got Dayens?
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,072
    Where are the pics bro?
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 2,787
    Like my Zu cables.
    2 channel: Anthem 225 Integrated amp; Parasound Ztuner; TechnicsTT SL1350; Vincent PHO-8 phono pre; Marantz CD6005 spinner; Polk Signature S60's;Cables: Wireworld Eclipse IC; Audioquest Big Sur IC; LAT International speaker cables; PS Audio AC-3 power cords, all into a PS Audio Dectet Power center.

    All TV's sound enhanced by Polk Magnfi Mini's.

    Other; SDA2BTL's, M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage.

    Political memes posted as fact and accepted as fact, are sign language of the ignorant, for the ignorant

    tonyb said " but even socialists can do a good thing here and there
  • scubalabscubalab Posts: 2,420
    Where are the pics bro?

    Alreight Dan @EndersShadow these are for you. I couldn’t just snap pics with them installed. OCD as I am, I had to re-package them and take ‘unofficial’ unboxing pics. Also for reference - in some pics, I put a piece of 14 AWG Furez from Doug that I had laying around to give an idea of size. The diameter of the Zu cable is 7/16” (just slightly - maybe 1/32” - larger than the Furez) and the splitter is 3/4”.

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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 3,480
    15 minutes later: "Oh, wow. I can see the top 5% of all 20 of those monolithic image files."
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 4,621
    Mine loaded in about 8 seconds over my 4G LTE connection. What is wrong with your internet?
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio Nova Integrated; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10 + MartinLogan Dynamo (original) sub; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - SVS PB10-ISD; LG UP870 4K BDP

    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; Audiosource Amp Two, PSB Imagine B, Boston VR-10 center, NHT Super One CI surrounds, ACI Titan subwoofer, Squeezebox Touch
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 3,480
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    Mine loaded in about 8 seconds over my 4G LTE connection. What is wrong with your internet?
    I have the luxury of no neighbors for 1/4 mile. Sadly, living that far from humanity (the scourge of planet Earth) does not allow for fast internet speeds. At least not where I live. I can stream Netflix in HD. That's all I really need it to do.
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,072
    Wow, they look really nice! I'm gonna start bidding on them now for my loft for sure.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • scubalabscubalab Posts: 2,420
    Do it! For the price... you'd have a hard time getting something even close.

    Since these need up to 400 hours burn-in, it’ll be some time before I dare evaluate the sound quality. Although, I haven’t necessarily been able to hear differences in cables in the past. I can say the speakers they’re driving sound damn good!
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