The Tale Of 3 Tweeters

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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,489
    You have to have the correct crossover components and tweeter, you don’t.
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,489
    To have a TL SDA 2B you have to modify the crossover, which you admit you haven't done, "do to using these tweeters without the added capacitance" and use the correct tweeter, which you're not. Clear enough?
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,489
    edited July 23
    That's impossible.

    I'm not sure why you keep referring to the SL2500 as a TL tweeter. Not one single Polk Series II speaker carried the TL designation.

    The 2B tweeter cut out will accept the SL2000, SL2500, RDO194 and RD0198 without modification.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,489
    edited July 23
    It's well established what the 2BTL mod is and what you've got isn't it. Ask the other guys here if your speakers could be considered to be 2BTL's, you won't find one that will say yes.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • DarqueKnightDarqueKnight Posts: 6,329
    SoundMann1 wrote: »
    The SL2500 measured @ 6 Ohms. what is the resistance of the SL3000?

    The DC resistance of the SL3000 and RD-0198 tweeters is 5.6 ohms. However, I must caution you that two tweeters of similar, or the same, DC resistance will have different impedance characteristics under AC load. This difference may damage your amp and/or your speakers...and the damage may occur slowly over time rather than by immediate failure.
    SoundMann1 wrote: »
    Let me start off by saying that I have been using a pair of SDA 2B's since the mid 90's.

    I have used the SL2000, the RDO194, and currently, the SL2500, which I find to perform the best.

    There was another forum member who thought the RD0198 sounded better in his SDA SRS speakers than the SL2000/RD0194 tweeters that were made for them. His joy lasted for a little while until his amp shut down on one particular song.

    SoundMann1 wrote: »
    With the 13Khz peak of the SL2000, and the ringing of the RDO194, plus the rather rough crossover point between the drivers, I have not been completely happy until now.

    Would you give an example by naming a particular song and explaining how the tweeter ringing affects the sound quality of that song?
    SoundMann1 wrote: »
    The SL2500 is smoother and more transparent, with better timberal accuracy, with a small trade-off of being a bit thinner in the low presence range do to using these tweeters without the added capacitance.

    I have run various frequency sweeps, and haven't found any obvious holes in the response.

    I don't doubt that this tweeter substitution sounds better to you. Some of us here, myself included, have done extensive modifications on our SDA loudspeakers. One "mod" we don't recommend is using inappropriate replacement tweeters and drivers. Tweeters and drivers should be thought of as major components of the crossover circuit. As such, they should not be switched out without proper regard to how the switch will affect the overall performance of the crossover circuit.

    "So hot it burns Mice!"~DK
    "Polk SDA-SRSs are hopelessly out of date both sonically and technologically... I see no value whatsoever in older SDA speakers."~Audio Asylum Member
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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 3,488
    I suspect.....

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  • Toolfan66Toolfan66 Posts: 13,910
    BadSoundMann1,

    F1 is correct in saying you won’t find one person here in agreeing with what you’re doing is right, as well as you do not have 2BTL SDA’s, what gear are you using with these speakers?
  • BlueBirdMusicBlueBirdMusic Registered User Posts: 301
    edited July 23
    I am reminded of Norman Vincent Peale's quote:

    "Big egos have little ears".

    (I am not referring to F1nut, Toolfan66, etc.)
  • Toolfan66Toolfan66 Posts: 13,910
    SoundMann1 wrote: »
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    you do not have 2BTL SDA’s

    Yes I do! TL tweeters make TL speakers!

    No, you do not...

  • Toolfan66Toolfan66 Posts: 13,910
    edited July 23
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  • Toolfan66Toolfan66 Posts: 13,910
    edited July 23
    Well I have a job, and have to go to work.. have a good day...
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  • KennethSwaugerKennethSwauger Moderator Posts: 6,648
    Gentlemen, keep it civil, no derogatory name calling please. Thanks.
    "And the house you live in will never fall down
    If you pity the stranger who stands at your gate" G.Lightfoot
  • DarqueKnightDarqueKnight Posts: 6,329
    Viking64 wrote: »
    I suspect.....

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    Agreed. Reminds me of the fellow who was rabidly adamant that the only way to "fix" the SL2000 tweeter was to put a capacitor in series with it.

    "So hot it burns Mice!"~DK
    "Polk SDA-SRSs are hopelessly out of date both sonically and technologically... I see no value whatsoever in older SDA speakers."~Audio Asylum Member
    "Knowledge, without understanding, is a path to failure."~DK
    "Those who irrationally rail against something or someone that is no threat to them, actually desire (or desire to be like) the thing or person they are railing against."~DK
  • Toolfan66Toolfan66 Posts: 13,910
    For the record, I never called anyone a derogatory name...
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 11,100
    edited July 23
    Gentlemen, keep it civil, no derogatory name calling please. Thanks.

    I see you removed my post so this must be pointed at me.

    I was not aware that the word "Circus" was derogatory...
  • xschopxschop Posts: 873
    Thanks for clarifying. The rd0194 is indeed a ringy little bastad. I've heard yet another set that had the same issue as mine did. Monitor 10B's with a new set installed too.
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 18,396
    Gentlemen, keep it civil, no derogatory name calling please. Thanks.

    So saying anything at all that might actually get through to the OP that he does not have TL speakers even though he is using the wrong tweets, no matter how thick headed the individual might be, is off limits and he should be allowed to live with his delusion, and to try and convince others here that he is correct in his false belief?

    How about a word from our sponsors, either here in this thread, or privately, telling him he has bad information, explain to him why he is wrong, and suggesting to him the correct path to get what he wants.

    It would save us mere mortals that have extensive experience over decades of owning and upgrading these speakers from beating our heads against the wall.
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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 18,396
    xschop wrote: »
    Thanks for clarifying. The rd0194 is indeed a ringy little bastad. I've heard yet another set that had the same issue as mine did. Monitor 10B's with a new set installed too.

    There must be something else going on with the speaker... crossover issue perhaps?
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with PS Audio NuWave Phono converter, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Stradivari v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X1 two channel preamplifier Signed by Poppa himself, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Krell Evolution 525a CD Player, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo UDP-205 Blu-ray , Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds

  • motorstereomotorstereo Posts: 842
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    It would save us mere mortals that have extensive experience over decades of owning and upgrading these speakers from beating our heads against the wall.

    Well I know I'll take the word of long time knowledgeable members 9 days a week and twice on Sunday over that of a confused newbie.

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