Thinking about upgrading my RX-A720

MilitoMilito Posts: 121
I don't have near the knowledge base as 99% of you in this forum so I thought I would ask for some opinions.

I recently bought a pair of S55's and a S30 that are in a room that is 16 ft wide and 16.5 deep. I also have one PSW 505. I don't have the room for a surround setup in this house so I will always be running 3.1 setup, maybe moving to a 3.1.2 sometime in the future.

I have thought about moving up to a refurnished 2070 or 3060. My listening mix is 40% music and 60% TV and movies. Would I gain much from moving up to a better AVR?

We may be moving in 5 years or so and if we do I will look for a house that has a room I can run a surround setup in.

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  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 2,120
    I would guess that the 2070/3060 would sound much better (for music at least) just because they are better units. They will also probably have a better power supply than your cheaper one, so they may push a little more power, a slightly lower impedance, run cooler, etc. I use daily my old Yamaha RX-v665 for 2 channel, then 2.1, then 3.1 for a long time, and it sounded really good if I recall. Not as good as my Technics I have now for straight 2 channel music, but still, really good. I still have it running today actually on some Boston CR75s. I imagine for movies it will probably be better, but not as drastically as for music.
    I would say that it is probably worth the move. But do remember that if those receivers are not as high resolution as your current one, then the video quality may take a hit.
    Keep in mind I don’t know a ton about any of the receivers on your list, other than their place in the food chain, and audio related specs. I’ve never listened to any of them, although I’ve heard they sound quite good.
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    Monitor Audio Radius R90’s/Polk SDA CRS/Mission Freedom 770 IV
    BJC speaker cables, generic RCA’s, one homemade power cable, because that’s going to do any good with the rest of the generic ones.
    Technics SL3200 turntable and a Shure M97xE phono cartridge
    Velodyne VA-907 subwoofer
    Lafayette LR-1100 acting as a tuner and phono.
    I've always thought the goal of high end audio was not to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Turn that darn music down' but to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Tell your friends to go home and you can practice later this week'.
  • rpf65rpf65 Posts: 1,756
    The only reason I could see to upgrade any reciever, running a 3.1 set up is for newer sound codex or 4K capabilities.
    I think that AVR has most of the current sound decoding programs.

    Don’t think it has pre-outs, so if you want to add an amp in the future, that would be reason enough. Don’t really think it would be worth it to upgrade to a newer AVR for music. I don’t think the improvement would justify the cost, strictly using the AVR, without an amp.
  • mdaudioguymdaudioguy Posts: 4,620
    There is a vast difference going from the lower to the higher end Yamahas. You should definitely notice an improvement. Plenty of power in the 2070 or 3060, and you shouldn't need an amp to run those 3 speakers with an AVR of that caliber.
    7.1 - polk RTi10 x 3 (LCR) : FXi3 x 2 : RTi4 x 4 : Sunfire SDS-12 : Yamaha Aventage RX-A2040 : Adcom GFA-7500 : Squeezebox Touch : DIRECTV : Roku SE : Panasonic PT-AX200U PJ @ 120"
    5.1 - Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800 x 4 : ProCenter 1000 : Klipsch Sub-10 : Pioneer Elite SC-91: DIRECTV : LG OLED55B6P : Roku Premiere+
    Garage Duty - polk Monitor 10s : Pioneer A-717 Integrated Amp : Squeezebox Classic
  • MilitoMilito Posts: 121
    Thanks for the input.

    I'm trying to sell the 720 right now and waiting to see if the prices go down with the new models coming out.
  • jeremymarcinkojeremymarcinko Posts: 3,189
    Really if you don’t need the extra channels, and it sounds like you don’t, go for the 1000 series.
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  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 4,594
    edited June 6
    Really if you don’t need the extra channels, and it sounds like you don’t, go for the 1000 series.

    I agree. The 1000 series sound great, have more power and preouts. You don’t need the extra channels or power so the 2000 series would be a waste of money...
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    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio Nova Integrated; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10 + MartinLogan Dynamo (original) sub; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - SVS PB10-ISD; LG UP870 4K BDP

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  • MilitoMilito Posts: 121
    I'm an old guy and we live in a 2 story house right now, but we will move to a one story probably within 5 years. I will be looking for a house then where I can set up a surround system so I want to get something that I don't have to upgrade later.
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 4,594
    Milito wrote: »
    I'm an old guy and we live in a 2 story house right now, but we will move to a one story probably within 5 years. I will be looking for a house then where I can set up a surround system so I want to get something that I don't have to upgrade later.

    I understand where you are coming from, but chances are in five years you will need to upgrade. 8K (16, 24???) and who knows what audio codecs will be the standard in 5 years lol...

    And besides, if you are just looking to upgrade to 5.1.2, then the 1000 series will do that for you.
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio Nova Integrated; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10 + MartinLogan Dynamo (original) sub; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - SVS PB10-ISD; LG UP870 4K BDP

    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; Audiosource Amp Two, PSB Imagine B, Boston VR-10 center, NHT Super One CI surrounds, ACI Titan subwoofer, Squeezebox Touch
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,469
    I agree with the above and get an RX-A10XX AVR. S55 and an S30 don't need that much power to sound good. In the future if more power/channels are needed then you can add an amp to the system.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk T15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • mdaudioguymdaudioguy Posts: 4,620
    In my experience, yes, the most improvement in sound starts with the 10xx series.
    7.1 - polk RTi10 x 3 (LCR) : FXi3 x 2 : RTi4 x 4 : Sunfire SDS-12 : Yamaha Aventage RX-A2040 : Adcom GFA-7500 : Squeezebox Touch : DIRECTV : Roku SE : Panasonic PT-AX200U PJ @ 120"
    5.1 - Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800 x 4 : ProCenter 1000 : Klipsch Sub-10 : Pioneer Elite SC-91: DIRECTV : LG OLED55B6P : Roku Premiere+
    Garage Duty - polk Monitor 10s : Pioneer A-717 Integrated Amp : Squeezebox Classic
  • MilitoMilito Posts: 121
    The reason I was considering going higher than a 1070 is I can get a 2060 for an additional $100.00 at accessories4less or a 2070 or 3060 for an additional $250.
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,469
    Milito wrote: »
    The reason I was considering going higher than a 1070 is I can get a 2060 for an additional $100.00 at accessories4less or a 2070 or 3060 for an additional $250.

    It's your money. If it was me I would save the $100, not much difference is sound quality once you go above the 10XX AVR.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk T15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • MilitoMilito Posts: 121
    Just looking at all of my options, I haven't decided what I'm going to do yet.

    I do appreciate all of the feedback.
  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 7,545
    The additional $250 is enough for (or most of) a good B&K or Parasound amplifier.
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  • mdaudioguymdaudioguy Posts: 4,620
    It all depends on what you want and can afford. I think there ARE incremental, but noticeable, improvements as you go up the line. For me, I moved from 1010 to 2040, several years ago, mostly for the use of additional channels.
    7.1 - polk RTi10 x 3 (LCR) : FXi3 x 2 : RTi4 x 4 : Sunfire SDS-12 : Yamaha Aventage RX-A2040 : Adcom GFA-7500 : Squeezebox Touch : DIRECTV : Roku SE : Panasonic PT-AX200U PJ @ 120"
    5.1 - Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800 x 4 : ProCenter 1000 : Klipsch Sub-10 : Pioneer Elite SC-91: DIRECTV : LG OLED55B6P : Roku Premiere+
    Garage Duty - polk Monitor 10s : Pioneer A-717 Integrated Amp : Squeezebox Classic
  • MilitoMilito Posts: 121
    So is accessories4less safe to buy from?

    Any sites any of you would suggest for a new one at a good price?
  • jeremymarcinkojeremymarcinko Posts: 3,189
    A4L is A OK. Buy with confidence.
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  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,469
    Milito wrote: »
    So is accessories4less safe to buy from?

    Any sites any of you would suggest for a new one at a good price?

    5 different people I know have ordered from there with no problem.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk T15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • MilitoMilito Posts: 121
    I had heard mostly good about them with a few bad comments, but you'll get that with just about any vendor.

    Thanks again for the comments.
  • rpf65rpf65 Posts: 1,756
    Bought an RX-A2060 from them little over a year ago. Not a mark on it, running flawlessly. I wouldn’t hesitate to buy from them again.
  • MilitoMilito Posts: 121
    Well I just ordered an RX-A2070 from them as I sold my RX-A720.

    Now if I can just get my house put back together as major foundation work in the den area where my setup goes. New wood floors next week to replace the ones they had to go thru to put the new piers in.

    Hurts me to think of what I could have used all of that money for. Oh well, the joys of owning a home.
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