AMC 2100 Amplifier

I have a chance to pick up this model from a local source at around a bill but will try to talk him to $75. Just curious if anyone has experience they can share on the sound signature? I have read conflicting reports, some people prefer them to the Parasound HCA1000, some people say they are really musical others say they are bright.

This would be a temporary amp to get me off of my Yamaha AV34. Will be using my Denon PRA1200 preamp.
Living room

Mains: Paradigm 90P
Lows: Velodyne CHT12, Pioneer SW-8Mk2
Power: Marantz SR7000
Tv: Samsung UHD 55' Curved 4k

2 Channel Den

Mains: SDA2B Upgraded XOs and Binding Posts
Pre: Denon PRA-1200
Power: Yamaha AV34
TT: Pioneer PL510
Tv: Samsung UHD 55' 4K

Noggin Rockin'

Phillips L2
Grado SE80
Harman Kardon CL
Little dot 1+/GE JAN 5654w

Closet of Dreams:

Harman Kardon AVR130
Yamaha HTR5590
Polk RTA11TL
Polk TSI200s
New Large Advents 25th Anniversary Edition
Bravo V2/RCA Clear top Conn branded 12AU7

"Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
" I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
"Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2

Comments

  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,202
    I wouldn't expect miracles from it. Chances are you may need to refresh some parts too, so that lowball price may reflect that need.

    Worth a shot though for a hundie. How bad can it be ? It is only a 100 watter too, so depending on what your pushing with it, possible you might get by with it.
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  • codycatalistcodycatalist Posts: 1,391
    tonyb wrote: »
    I wouldn't expect miracles from it. Chances are you may need to refresh some parts too, so that lowball price may reflect that need.

    Worth a shot though for a hundie. How bad can it be ? It is only a 100 watter too, so depending on what your pushing with it, possible you might get by with it.

    Yeah wasn't expecting anything end game even for a mid-fier like me. I was gonna run my SDA2bs, I wasn't paying attention to the wattage as much as the 32 amps of current available which seem to be plenty for low to med level listening. My current Yammy runs at 120 watts which is plenty enough for me, just want something with better stereo separation which I hear this amp does well enough for the price.
    Living room

    Mains: Paradigm 90P
    Lows: Velodyne CHT12, Pioneer SW-8Mk2
    Power: Marantz SR7000
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' Curved 4k

    2 Channel Den

    Mains: SDA2B Upgraded XOs and Binding Posts
    Pre: Denon PRA-1200
    Power: Yamaha AV34
    TT: Pioneer PL510
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' 4K

    Noggin Rockin'

    Phillips L2
    Grado SE80
    Harman Kardon CL
    Little dot 1+/GE JAN 5654w

    Closet of Dreams:

    Harman Kardon AVR130
    Yamaha HTR5590
    Polk RTA11TL
    Polk TSI200s
    New Large Advents 25th Anniversary Edition
    Bravo V2/RCA Clear top Conn branded 12AU7

    "Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
    " I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
    "Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,202
    Should be just peachy for 2b's, see if you can demo it before you buy it. Make sure there's no static or lopsided volume between channels.
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    ERA D5 bookies

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  • codycatalistcodycatalist Posts: 1,391
    Will do! Thanks for offering your opinion, I did research even on this forum and got some hits just not a lot in the way of how well it might work in my situation. Hopefully it pans out, will report back once I go visit the guy.
    Living room

    Mains: Paradigm 90P
    Lows: Velodyne CHT12, Pioneer SW-8Mk2
    Power: Marantz SR7000
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' Curved 4k

    2 Channel Den

    Mains: SDA2B Upgraded XOs and Binding Posts
    Pre: Denon PRA-1200
    Power: Yamaha AV34
    TT: Pioneer PL510
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' 4K

    Noggin Rockin'

    Phillips L2
    Grado SE80
    Harman Kardon CL
    Little dot 1+/GE JAN 5654w

    Closet of Dreams:

    Harman Kardon AVR130
    Yamaha HTR5590
    Polk RTA11TL
    Polk TSI200s
    New Large Advents 25th Anniversary Edition
    Bravo V2/RCA Clear top Conn branded 12AU7

    "Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
    " I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
    "Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 15,652
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 23,721
    AMC was started by former NAD people. It's solid gear. I think you'll be surprised how good it sounds. $75 is a great deal, $100 not bad either.

    Report back is you buy it

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

    Pass Aleph 30 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Plus DAC | MIT Shotgun S3 | MIT Z P/C's | updated SDA 1C| SQ Box Touch/Welbourne Labs P/S- Tubes add soul!
  • ZLTFULZLTFUL Posts: 4,472
    The 2100 is a solid state entry.
    I have the 2030 which is a hybrid EL34 tube amp.

    I like it a lot but from the factory it was shipped with soldered in tubes. My wife had mine shipped to someone to have it modified with sockets so I can roll tubes through mine.

    I don't know much about the 2100 though.
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  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 15,652
    ZLTFUL wrote: »
    The 2100 is a solid state entry.
    I have the 2030 which is a hybrid EL34 tube amp.

    I like it a lot but from the factory it was shipped with soldered in tubes. My wife had mine shipped to someone to have it modified with sockets so I can roll tubes through mine.

    I don't know much about the 2100 though.

    And I'm betting its in a box somewhere right not... IE your smaller version of the "Lightman Warehouse" :wink:
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • codycatalistcodycatalist Posts: 1,391
    heiney9 wrote: »
    AMC was started by former NAD people. It's solid gear. I think you'll be surprised how good it sounds. $75 is a great deal, $100 not bad either.

    Report back is you buy it

    H9

    I saw you mention that it was an offshoot of NAD which got me interested. Glad you chimed in!
    Living room

    Mains: Paradigm 90P
    Lows: Velodyne CHT12, Pioneer SW-8Mk2
    Power: Marantz SR7000
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' Curved 4k

    2 Channel Den

    Mains: SDA2B Upgraded XOs and Binding Posts
    Pre: Denon PRA-1200
    Power: Yamaha AV34
    TT: Pioneer PL510
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' 4K

    Noggin Rockin'

    Phillips L2
    Grado SE80
    Harman Kardon CL
    Little dot 1+/GE JAN 5654w

    Closet of Dreams:

    Harman Kardon AVR130
    Yamaha HTR5590
    Polk RTA11TL
    Polk TSI200s
    New Large Advents 25th Anniversary Edition
    Bravo V2/RCA Clear top Conn branded 12AU7

    "Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
    " I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
    "Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 23,721
    I don't have first hand experience with AMC stuff other than a dac. I think if the amp is in good working order it punches higher than it's price point. Not sure of the age, but if it's 20 years or older it may need to be recapped for best performance.

    For $75-100, I think it should do well.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

    Pass Aleph 30 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Plus DAC | MIT Shotgun S3 | MIT Z P/C's | updated SDA 1C| SQ Box Touch/Welbourne Labs P/S- Tubes add soul!
  • codycatalistcodycatalist Posts: 1,391
    Meh he doesn't want to audition it, wants me to believe it is working because he tested it. Tried to say I will throw $75 if untested but he is firm on a hundred. Might not pick up, I would hate to buy it just to find out more money is needed to get it up and running.

    Still on the fence.
    Living room

    Mains: Paradigm 90P
    Lows: Velodyne CHT12, Pioneer SW-8Mk2
    Power: Marantz SR7000
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' Curved 4k

    2 Channel Den

    Mains: SDA2B Upgraded XOs and Binding Posts
    Pre: Denon PRA-1200
    Power: Yamaha AV34
    TT: Pioneer PL510
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' 4K

    Noggin Rockin'

    Phillips L2
    Grado SE80
    Harman Kardon CL
    Little dot 1+/GE JAN 5654w

    Closet of Dreams:

    Harman Kardon AVR130
    Yamaha HTR5590
    Polk RTA11TL
    Polk TSI200s
    New Large Advents 25th Anniversary Edition
    Bravo V2/RCA Clear top Conn branded 12AU7

    "Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
    " I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
    "Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
  • codycatalistcodycatalist Posts: 1,391
    HA! Called his bluff, he is going to accept $80. Ill report back tmrw once I get home with it.
    Living room

    Mains: Paradigm 90P
    Lows: Velodyne CHT12, Pioneer SW-8Mk2
    Power: Marantz SR7000
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' Curved 4k

    2 Channel Den

    Mains: SDA2B Upgraded XOs and Binding Posts
    Pre: Denon PRA-1200
    Power: Yamaha AV34
    TT: Pioneer PL510
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' 4K

    Noggin Rockin'

    Phillips L2
    Grado SE80
    Harman Kardon CL
    Little dot 1+/GE JAN 5654w

    Closet of Dreams:

    Harman Kardon AVR130
    Yamaha HTR5590
    Polk RTA11TL
    Polk TSI200s
    New Large Advents 25th Anniversary Edition
    Bravo V2/RCA Clear top Conn branded 12AU7

    "Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
    " I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
    "Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,202
    I guy who doesn't want to audition it and is low balling the price means your spending 80 bucks for a door stop. I would pass....
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    Sony 4k BRP
    Tad 803 bookies
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    Polk s35 center
    SVS SB-2000
    Sonos

    Music-

    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k 1403 amp
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    ERA D5 bookies

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 10,011
    edited May 18
    yep Tony is on to something there.....

    But who knows you may need a fancy door stop :D
  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 23,721
    If it was a huge PITA to audition it and you felt the guy was being 100% honest, but otherwise it smells of if fish...lol.

    Hope it works out

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

    Pass Aleph 30 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Plus DAC | MIT Shotgun S3 | MIT Z P/C's | updated SDA 1C| SQ Box Touch/Welbourne Labs P/S- Tubes add soul!
  • codycatalistcodycatalist Posts: 1,391
    heiney9 wrote: »
    If it was a huge PITA to audition it and you felt the guy was being 100% honest, but otherwise it smells of if fish...lol.

    Hope it works out

    H9

    He changed his tune a bit and stated I am more than welcome to audition but he wants me to bring speakers and my preamp then plug them into an outlet at a gas station. I just am meh on doing so. Will keep you all posted.
    Living room

    Mains: Paradigm 90P
    Lows: Velodyne CHT12, Pioneer SW-8Mk2
    Power: Marantz SR7000
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' Curved 4k

    2 Channel Den

    Mains: SDA2B Upgraded XOs and Binding Posts
    Pre: Denon PRA-1200
    Power: Yamaha AV34
    TT: Pioneer PL510
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' 4K

    Noggin Rockin'

    Phillips L2
    Grado SE80
    Harman Kardon CL
    Little dot 1+/GE JAN 5654w

    Closet of Dreams:

    Harman Kardon AVR130
    Yamaha HTR5590
    Polk RTA11TL
    Polk TSI200s
    New Large Advents 25th Anniversary Edition
    Bravo V2/RCA Clear top Conn branded 12AU7

    "Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
    " I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
    "Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
  • DaveHoDaveHo Posts: 1,824
    Plug in & verify it powers on. Bring a multi meter to check the dc offset of each channel. If less than +/- 30mV you're probably good to go. Alternately use a 1/8" to rca y cable from your phone's headphone jack into the amp & a small speaker. One speaker will do, you can swap it to the other channel to check both. I keep a pair of Radio Shack Minimus 7s around for such a purpose.
  • codycatalistcodycatalist Posts: 1,391
    DaveHo wrote: »
    Plug in & verify it powers on. Bring a multi meter to check the dc offset of each channel. If less than +/- 30mV you're probably good to go. Alternately use a 1/8" to rca y cable from your phone's headphone jack into the amp & a small speaker. One speaker will do, you can swap it to the other channel to check both. I keep a pair of Radio Shack Minimus 7s around for such a purpose.

    I'll have to poke around and find something small. My smallest speaker at the moment are some New Large Advents ha!
    Living room

    Mains: Paradigm 90P
    Lows: Velodyne CHT12, Pioneer SW-8Mk2
    Power: Marantz SR7000
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' Curved 4k

    2 Channel Den

    Mains: SDA2B Upgraded XOs and Binding Posts
    Pre: Denon PRA-1200
    Power: Yamaha AV34
    TT: Pioneer PL510
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' 4K

    Noggin Rockin'

    Phillips L2
    Grado SE80
    Harman Kardon CL
    Little dot 1+/GE JAN 5654w

    Closet of Dreams:

    Harman Kardon AVR130
    Yamaha HTR5590
    Polk RTA11TL
    Polk TSI200s
    New Large Advents 25th Anniversary Edition
    Bravo V2/RCA Clear top Conn branded 12AU7

    "Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
    " I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
    "Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
  • ukcolin99ukcolin99 Posts: 272

    heiney9 wrote: »
    If it was a huge PITA to audition it and you felt the guy was being 100% honest, but otherwise it smells of if fish...lol.

    Hope it works out

    H9

    He changed his tune a bit and stated I am more than welcome to audition but he wants me to bring speakers and my preamp then plug them into an outlet at a gas station. I just am meh on doing so. Will keep you all posted.

    You are joking, gas station....
    2C: Parasound A21, Cambridge 851N, Polk LSiM705's, 2009 MacPro running iTunes & Spotify.
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  • codycatalistcodycatalist Posts: 1,391
    ukcolin99 wrote: »
    heiney9 wrote: »
    If it was a huge PITA to audition it and you felt the guy was being 100% honest, but otherwise it smells of if fish...lol.

    Hope it works out

    H9

    He changed his tune a bit and stated I am more than welcome to audition but he wants me to bring speakers and my preamp then plug them into an outlet at a gas station. I just am meh on doing so. Will keep you all posted.

    You are joking, gas station....

    Nope which is why I told him I didn't want to plug my stuff in at some gas station outlet. I can understand being cautious and not wanting someone to meet you at your house especially over $80. I might just pick up a multimeter and test like Dave recommended, most hassle-free way to tell if there is an issue.
    Living room

    Mains: Paradigm 90P
    Lows: Velodyne CHT12, Pioneer SW-8Mk2
    Power: Marantz SR7000
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' Curved 4k

    2 Channel Den

    Mains: SDA2B Upgraded XOs and Binding Posts
    Pre: Denon PRA-1200
    Power: Yamaha AV34
    TT: Pioneer PL510
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' 4K

    Noggin Rockin'

    Phillips L2
    Grado SE80
    Harman Kardon CL
    Little dot 1+/GE JAN 5654w

    Closet of Dreams:

    Harman Kardon AVR130
    Yamaha HTR5590
    Polk RTA11TL
    Polk TSI200s
    New Large Advents 25th Anniversary Edition
    Bravo V2/RCA Clear top Conn branded 12AU7

    "Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
    " I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
    "Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,202
    edited May 18
    The warning signs are there chief, don't make me say "told ya so", because I will. ;)

    Hook it up to that Monoprice flamethrower....and stand back.

    66mwc4ihsohv.jpg
    HT SYSTEM-
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    Tad 803 bookies
    Polk 500 surrounds
    Polk s35 center
    SVS SB-2000
    Sonos

    Music-

    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k 1403 amp
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    ERA D5 bookies

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 1,188
    tonyb wrote: »
    The warning signs are there chief, don't make me say "told ya so", because I will. ;)

    Hook it up to that Monoprice flamethrower....and stand back.

    66mwc4ihsohv.jpg

    woah, that is quite literally the best Monoprice in used condition I have ever seen!!
    Where did you find it??
    2 channel
    Speakers: Mission 770 Freedoms
    Integrated amp: Technics SU-v75 and matching tuner
    CDP: Technics SL-PC20
    Cables: Monoprice, Monster, Acoustic Research, and a few generic ones
    TT: Technics SL-3200, direct drive
    Cartridge: Shure M97xE

    Pc gaming setup
    Receiver/amp: Yamaha RX-V665
    Computer: Lenovo g50 (soon to be upgraded to a Dell Precision 690 which is far from stock!!)
    Interconnects: Amazon basics HDMI, Acoustic Research HDMI, Monoprice speaker cables
    Speakers: Boston Acoustics CR75s

    Random equipment on standby:
    Onkyo TX-v940, JBL woofers and tweeters, single Klipsch KG .5, Yamaha guitar amplifier, Peavey Rage 158 guitar amplifier, Kicker comp 12” subwoofer, single Bose 802 series II, a whole bunch of 1”-3” full range drivers, Infinity Crescendo 3007s (on sale), Polk LSi25s
    txcoastal1 wrote: »

    You don't tell her you read the manual, and you tell her you know what the problem is, and you fixed it, because that what men do, fix things
    sure it has a flat response, and sure it has a lot of detail, and yes, it has good and clear lows. But is it enjoyable to listen to? Does it make you grin ear to ear? That’s what really matters.
    Seen somewhere on AudioKarma (I think)
  • codycatalistcodycatalist Posts: 1,391
    ukcolin99 wrote: »
    heiney9 wrote: »
    If it was a huge PITA to audition it and you felt the guy was being 100% honest, but otherwise it smells of if fish...lol.

    Hope it works out

    H9

    He changed his tune a bit and stated I am more than welcome to audition but he wants me to bring speakers and my preamp then plug them into an outlet at a gas station. I just am meh on doing so. Will keep you all posted.

    You are joking, gas station....

    Nope which is why I told him I didn't want to plug my stuff in at some gas station outlet. I can understand being cautious and not wanting someone to meet you at your house especially over $80. I might just pick up a multimeter and test like Dave recommended, most hassle-free way to tell if there is an issue.

    Fine fine, I'll take your word on it bud. The search continues!
    Living room

    Mains: Paradigm 90P
    Lows: Velodyne CHT12, Pioneer SW-8Mk2
    Power: Marantz SR7000
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' Curved 4k

    2 Channel Den

    Mains: SDA2B Upgraded XOs and Binding Posts
    Pre: Denon PRA-1200
    Power: Yamaha AV34
    TT: Pioneer PL510
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' 4K

    Noggin Rockin'

    Phillips L2
    Grado SE80
    Harman Kardon CL
    Little dot 1+/GE JAN 5654w

    Closet of Dreams:

    Harman Kardon AVR130
    Yamaha HTR5590
    Polk RTA11TL
    Polk TSI200s
    New Large Advents 25th Anniversary Edition
    Bravo V2/RCA Clear top Conn branded 12AU7

    "Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
    " I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
    "Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
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