Do You Lend Your Physical Media?

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Nightfall
Nightfall Posts: 10,067
edited May 2018 in The Clubhouse
Do you lend your physical media to your friends? Is it unreasonable to not want to lend out expensive arse LP's? Does the person asking know how to properly handle an LP? Are they going to leave it on the turntable to collect dust afterwards then shove it in the MoFi sleeve the next day with dust all over it? I have no clue. I've seen a lot of people on YouTube (usually younger LP collectors) even showing off records that will grab the record with their hand like this:

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Are they going to be mad when you find a scuff on a once pristine LP and now you want them to pay the value of it? Do you eat the value, deal with the scuff, and learn who not to lend things out to anymore?

How about things like movies, old cartridge based video games (expensive!), concert Blurays, CD's, SACD's, etc.?

I feel like it's just easier to say no and deal with them thinking it's because you're stingy and over protective. There's people on this forum I would lend physical media out to before most people I know in "real life" because I know they know how to care for it. Any CD's, LP's, video games, etc I buy new are still in pristine condition at this moment and anything I buy used is in the same condition it was when I bought it. I see too many people with stacks of upside down discs. Even not putting the disc back in it's own case irks me. Like putting your Talking Heads CD away but putting it in the Rolling Stone's case because that is what was closest to you.

Or am I actually over the top protective about this?
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,596
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    I used to, but not anymore. One too many lost CDs, damaged inserts, fingerprinted discs, etc.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,787
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    Do I? Hell no!!!
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  • Hermitism
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    When my friends started spreading their seed and birthing children, that was the tipping point for me. My movies and CDs no longer leave my house. I've gotten burned too many times in my twenties from my adult friends not treating my music CDs the same way I do. And my biggest peeve is lending out a CD for them to listen to and then waiting two months to get it back. If you didn't have time to listen to it, you shouldn't have borrowed it. I won't even tolerate finger prints on discs. I've never scratched a disc in my life.

    I'm lucky enough to have a local library, that up until a year ago, would purchase CDs, Blu-rays and DVDs to lend out. When they would get something new in, I'd always try to be first on the list to check it out because of the way people treat the library's property. If I was the third person to check out a disc, it was sometimes already too late. Scratches, scuffs, spilled soft drinks. I really dislike people. The library no longer purchases physical media, they now use an online service called Hoopla Digital for streaming. In fact, right now they are selling off about 20% of their music CDs for 50 cents a piece. I wouldn't give them ten cents for their circulated discs. I've purchased plenty of used discs from pawn shop and eBay, but they have to be in like new condition. Gone are the days of used music shops. Out of business. At least Blu-ray discs are extremely hard to scratch, but I'm sure my friends could do it!
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,553
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    Nope don't even ask.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,027
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    I'm an only child; 'nuff said ;)

    In seriousness, I will lend stuff to many folks I know who, by and large, have better hardware than I and take as good or better care of their software ("media") than do I.

  • mlistens03
    mlistens03 Posts: 2,767
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    I do NOT lend my CDs or movies out to people. Period end of story.
    My parents, however, love to lend movies to other people who haven’t seen it yet. We used to have the movie Cars (back when it was my absolute favorite movie) and I would watch it every day or two. I had all the toys, and everything. And my mom lent the movie to someone who hadn’t seen it (this was years ago, when the movie was still kind of new) and they kept it for like a year. Then, they moved! They are now living in Arkansas with OUR Cars movie! I personally don’t care anymore, but back when I was little kid obsessed with that movie, I was heartbroken. And my parents continue to lend out their DVDs and CDs for some reason. I just don’t understand it.
  • muncybob
    muncybob Posts: 2,969
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    The only person I would consider would be by brother-in-law. I know he would take care of my stuff but his stylus ain't touching my records.
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  • scubalab
    scubalab Posts: 3,101
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    Eh... Stuff is stuff, and 99% of the time it's replaceable (friends are not). My philosophy is keep friends who would respect what they're borrowing. So, either I have no friends, or my stuff is undesirable, because rarely does anyone ask to borrow anything from me! :p

    In all seriousness, I do take care of my media, and if someone I know wants to borrow a Blu-ray, CD, equipment, etc., I have no problem loaning it to them. If it's something rare, special, or irreplaceable, I let them know that (and make them buy the insurance!)
  • Jimbo18
    Jimbo18 Posts: 2,314
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    I used to lend out my vinyl all the time, way back in the day. And yeah, it often came back in a condition that made me regret doing it.

    I still lend out Bluray and DVDs today. Worst part with them, is trying to remember who has what.
  • mrbiron
    mrbiron Posts: 5,711
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    Nbrowser would lend out his wife/girlfriend before lending out a CD/DVD... :p
    Where’s the KABOOM?!?! There’s supposed to be an Earth shattering KABOOM!!!
  • Hermitism
    Hermitism Posts: 4,204
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  • mrbiron
    mrbiron Posts: 5,711
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    Hermitism wrote: »
    Is she hot?

    Like stolen?
    Where’s the KABOOM?!?! There’s supposed to be an Earth shattering KABOOM!!!
  • dromunds
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    I loaned a box of albums to a good friend once and they came back all scratched up and dirty as heck. I was pizzed and quizzed him. He said he let another buddy use some of them “just to tape.” He denied the LPs were F’d up. Said they were just like he got them. Another time I loaned a friend a turntable I had in storage and after awhile he called and said something was wrong. When I looked at the TT I could immediately see the stylus had been snapped off. He denied he did it and said, “maybe it came here that way.” When I mentioned it wouldn’t have played if it came that way, he mentioned his girlfriend hated the stereo and his man cave in general. Needless to say, neither are my good friends anymore. If you value your physical media, then “hell no!”
  • polrbehr
    polrbehr Posts: 2,826
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    Only to my brother-in-law, I know he takes care of his stuff like I do.
    For anyone else? "Sure, you can borrow that CD/DVD." They will simply get an
    archival copy - if i feel like lending it out. End of story.
    So, are you willing to put forth a little effort or are you happy sitting in your skeptical poo pile?


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  • chumlie
    chumlie Posts: 8,658
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    Movies to Family, No biggy
    Music doesn't go out to anyone.
    I learned my lesson well.
  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 7,971
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    I guess I’m with Al on this one. Almost everything I own physically is backed up to a hard drive and that’s the main way I access it, so if I didn’t get it back it wouldn’t be the end of the world (I don’t do vinyl or sacds - that might be different). BUT all my adult friends stream pretty exclusively, so no one asks me. Or maybe they don’t like me :'(
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,596
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    Ah! I just remembered the actual reason of why I don't lend anything out, it's because I have no friends.
  • indyhawg
    indyhawg Posts: 1,636
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    I used to lend to my friends. in my younger days. However, I have learned not to lend to my friends, because there will be a very good chance that once the item is returned or supposed to be returned, they will no longer be my friend.
  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,067
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    dromunds wrote: »
    I loaned a box of albums to a good friend once and they came back all scratched up and dirty as heck. I was pizzed and quizzed him. He said he let another buddy use some of them “just to tape.” He denied the LPs were F’d up. Said they were just like he got them. Another time I loaned a friend a turntable I had in storage and after awhile he called and said something was wrong. When I looked at the TT I could immediately see the stylus had been snapped off. He denied he did it and said, “maybe it came here that way.” When I mentioned it wouldn’t have played if it came that way, he mentioned his girlfriend hated the stereo and his man cave in general. Needless to say, neither are my good friends anymore. If you value your physical media, then “hell no!”

    Man. Mistakes happen, own it, replace the thing you broke, and move on. Why try to lie about it or blame it on someone else?
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
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    Absolutely...NOT! People don't treat your stuff the way you do, and some don't give it back at all.

    It is not being unreasonable, it is the safest way to keep your stuff with you and intact.
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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
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    @Hermitism I like you. I really dislike people too. :#
  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
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    Cool life hack that I saw. Make the borrower take a picture holding the item they are borrowing. Make them hold it up next to their face like they are selling it. This will usually result in them withdrawing the request. It may even get them out of your house! "Why I never!" Thats right Finster and you never will again, now get out of my humble abode before I call the cops on you for trying to steal my record! A precisely aimed boot usually seals the deal.
  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,596
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    Oh, to live a day in your shoes.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    Cool life hack that I saw. Make the borrower take a picture holding the item they are borrowing. Make them hold it up next to their face like they are selling it. This will usually result in them withdrawing the request. It may even get them out of your house! "Why I never!" Thats right Finster and you never will again, now get out of my humble abode before I call the cops on you for trying to steal my record! A precisely aimed boot usually seals the deal.

  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
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    @Clipdat no you don't want that, I've thrown myself out of my own house for less.
  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
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    Besides, I don't think you could walk around in pumps all day.
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,185
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    Never vinyl, never any kind of disc. For a digital disc, I will burn them a copy and send them on the way. Heck, I'm afraid to handle my vinyl half the time...
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  • GospelTruth
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    Back when DVDs had first come out someone asked if they could borrow one. I relented and let them. It came back a month later and it was in one of the "cardboard" DVD boxes they used to make. The case was destroyed and the disc was scratched up. It was handed back with the "here you go, thanks (I took real good care of it)" attitude.

    Never again after that.

    If you invite me over to watch the movie or listen to the disc while I'm there, then I'll bring it - but never unsupervised.

    I was taught that if you ever borrowed something, you brought it back in the same condition or better than when you took it. Not everyone has that same viewpoint.
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,015
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    I feel the people that "HAVE", take care of what they have.

    The people who "DON'T HAVE" don't have because they don't know how to take care of s**t! Therefore, they have to borrow. I know NOT ALL borrowers are loathsome but from the responses I've just read and then my own bad experiences lending things out, there are a majority of borrowers who suck with responsibility skills. :/
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • motorstereo
    motorstereo Posts: 2,049
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    Many times cd's have gone for a stay to the right person. I also have no problem lending gear out to the right person either. It's a 2 way street and I've borrowed my share as well.