Proper orientation of male split pin RCA plug

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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,209
    edited April 30
    It's not a defect of the female RCA jack, it's just a design "flaw" that becomes apparent when using this style jack with split tip RCA cables. It's the same on all 4 pieces of gear I tried.
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    No not difficult. but it is a stamped piece of metal in the cheaper RCA's so there could be one of two things going on. maybe there was a burr on that lot of RCA's in the stamping process or it's a piece that ties something together that happens to touch the plug. Either it was not designed to engage the RCA pin in any way it just happens to touch it.

    Yes, normally of course you wouldn't be intentionally rotating the RCA cable after it's been plugged. However the issue/situation here is that for a cable that has some weight/body to it, when you plug one end in, and then attempt to run it to the other piece of gear you are connecting, the weight and bulk of the cable can actually inadvertently rotate the plug in the jack.

    Also the issue I described earlier where if you happen to plug it in "just right" (aka wrong), then the internal piece of metal will get inserted between the split tip which just seems awkward and undesirable.
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    I guess I am still kind of wondering why one would rotate an RCA plug in a jack?

    I don't think that's standard practice, other than a little judicious wiggling when removing one.
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  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 4,425
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    afterburnt wrote: »
    ...

    Couldnt leave well enough alone, you nroke em all!
    [emphasis added]

    Dang, just my luck -- Chrome's Swahili translator doesn't seem to be working today.

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    Mr. Sharpe wrote: »
    Meh these were extra $70 as an open box item so it didn’t much to me either way:)

  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 10,217
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Yes, normally of course you wouldn't be intentionally rotating the RCA cable after it's been plugged. However the issue/situation here is that for a cable that has some weight/body to it, when you plug one end in, and then attempt to run it to the other piece of gear you are connecting, the weight and bulk of the cable can actually inadvertently rotate the plug in the jack.

    NEVER have I EVER had ANY cable with an RCA plug do this.
    Yes I have had to twist them to get them on and off due to the the tight grip of some RCA's

  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,209
    Thanks for sharing your experiences.

    I've experienced it with AQ King Cobra and these Douglas Connection locking cables I just got, even with the lock screwed down fairly tight and snug.
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    NEVER have I EVER had ANY cable with an RCA plug do this.
    Yes I have had to twist them to get them on and off due to the the tight grip of some RCA's

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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 18,355
    afterburnt wrote: »
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    afterburnt wrote: »
    ...

    Couldnt leave well enough alone, you nroke em all!
    [emphasis added]

    Dang, just my luck -- Chrome's Swahili translator doesn't seem to be working today.

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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 2,796
    MIT Shotguns = problem solved
  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 4,425
    @Clipdat you are over thinking this. Is there a "groove" ?
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    Self Control is over rated.
    Mr. Sharpe wrote: »
    Meh these were extra $70 as an open box item so it didn’t much to me either way:)

  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,209
    edited April 30
    How are the MIT Shotguns "problem solved"? Simply because they don't have a split tip?
    Viking64 wrote: »
    MIT Shotguns = problem solved

    I disagree that I'm "over thinking" this, as anyone can replicate the issue/symptom I'm describing with a piece of gear that has this very common type of female RCAs and a split pin RCA cable.

    It just seems nobody else is willing/able to do so. Or nobody cares.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    @Clipdat you are over thinking this. Is there a "groove" ?

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  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 1,405
    I have had this happen to me before and I don’t buy split tip RCAs because of it.
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    txcoastal1 wrote: »

    You don't tell her you read the manual, and you tell her you know what the problem is, and you fixed it, because that what men do, fix things
  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 4,425
    @Clipdat if there is no groove or notch or something to indicate specific orientation the world is your huckleberry, you can get wild and get crazy in 360 degrees!
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    Self Control is over rated.
    Mr. Sharpe wrote: »
    Meh these were extra $70 as an open box item so it didn’t much to me either way:)

  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,209
    Lol finally someone else understands what I'm describing.
    mlistens03 wrote: »
    I have had this happen to me before and I don’t buy split tip RCAs because of it.

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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 2,796
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Lol finally someone else understands what I'm describing.
    He's just placating you because he felt sad for you after your last post.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,209
    Are you calling @mlistens03 a liar?!
    Viking64 wrote: »
    He's just placating you because he felt sad for you after your last post.

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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 2,796
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Are you calling @mlistens03 a liar?

    Yes.
  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 1,405
    Viking64 wrote: »
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Lol finally someone else understands what I'm describing.
    He's just placating you because he felt sad for you after your last post.

    I am deeply hurt.
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Are you calling @mlistens03 a liar?!
    Viking64 wrote: »
    He's just placating you because he felt sad for you after your last post.

    I think he is.
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    txcoastal1 wrote: »

    You don't tell her you read the manual, and you tell her you know what the problem is, and you fixed it, because that what men do, fix things
  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 1,405
    Hey, I need your help, I can't figure out how to ignore @viking64. :wink: :tongue:
    2 channel
    Speakers: Mission 770 Freedoms
    Integrated amp: Technics SU-v75 and matching tuner
    CDP: Technics SL-PC20
    Cables: Monoprice, Monster, Acoustic Research, and a few generic ones
    TT: Technics SL-3200, direct drive
    Cartridge: Shure M97xE

    Pc gaming setup
    Receiver/amp: Yamaha RX-V665
    Computer: Lenovo g50 (soon to be upgraded to a Dell Precision 690 which is far from stock!!)
    Interconnects: Amazon basics HDMI, Acoustic Research HDMI, Monoprice speaker cables
    Speakers: Boston Acoustics CR75s

    Random equipment on standby:
    Onkyo TX-v940, JBL woofers and tweeters, single Klipsch KG .5, Yamaha guitar amplifier, Peavey Rage 158 guitar amplifier, Kicker comp 12” subwoofer, single Bose 802 series II, a whole bunch of 1”-3” full range drivers, Infinity Crescendo 3007s (on sale), Polk LSi25s
    txcoastal1 wrote: »

    You don't tell her you read the manual, and you tell her you know what the problem is, and you fixed it, because that what men do, fix things
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,209
    That's the thing, he can't be ignored. Just ask Jesse.
    mlistens03 wrote: »
    Hey, I need your help, I can't figure out how to ignore @viking64. :wink: :tongue:

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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 2,796
    mlistens03 wrote: »
    I am deeply hurt.
    I iz sarriez! :'(

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  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 1,405
    Clipdat wrote: »
    That's the thing, he can't be ignored. Just ask Jesse.
    mlistens03 wrote: »
    Hey, I need your help, I can't figure out how to ignore @viking64. :wink: :tongue:

    Oh great. Well then, moving over to AK, see you all later. :tongue:
    Wait, are you there too!?!
    2 channel
    Speakers: Mission 770 Freedoms
    Integrated amp: Technics SU-v75 and matching tuner
    CDP: Technics SL-PC20
    Cables: Monoprice, Monster, Acoustic Research, and a few generic ones
    TT: Technics SL-3200, direct drive
    Cartridge: Shure M97xE

    Pc gaming setup
    Receiver/amp: Yamaha RX-V665
    Computer: Lenovo g50 (soon to be upgraded to a Dell Precision 690 which is far from stock!!)
    Interconnects: Amazon basics HDMI, Acoustic Research HDMI, Monoprice speaker cables
    Speakers: Boston Acoustics CR75s

    Random equipment on standby:
    Onkyo TX-v940, JBL woofers and tweeters, single Klipsch KG .5, Yamaha guitar amplifier, Peavey Rage 158 guitar amplifier, Kicker comp 12” subwoofer, single Bose 802 series II, a whole bunch of 1”-3” full range drivers, Infinity Crescendo 3007s (on sale), Polk LSi25s
    txcoastal1 wrote: »

    You don't tell her you read the manual, and you tell her you know what the problem is, and you fixed it, because that what men do, fix things
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 18,355
    something about pugs...
    "It's like watching a roomful of people who couldn't get through college algebra discussing the flaws of quantum physics theory. I guess it could be fun, but it's ultimately a waste of time." -- seen on audiokarma

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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 2,796
    Clipdat wrote: »
    That's the thing, he can't be ignored. Just ask Jesse.

    That's because I am the baddest vampire on this forum! RRRRAAAAARRRRR :p

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  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 1,405
    edited May 1
    Viking64 wrote: »
    Clipdat wrote: »
    That's the thing, he can't be ignored. Just ask Jesse.

    That's because I am the baddest vampire on this forum! RRRRAAAAARRRRR :p

    l5hf6tzkh558.jpg

    aww I can't leave when there are cute pictures like this! :tongue:
    Viking, where on earth do you get all of these pug pictures?
    2 channel
    Speakers: Mission 770 Freedoms
    Integrated amp: Technics SU-v75 and matching tuner
    CDP: Technics SL-PC20
    Cables: Monoprice, Monster, Acoustic Research, and a few generic ones
    TT: Technics SL-3200, direct drive
    Cartridge: Shure M97xE

    Pc gaming setup
    Receiver/amp: Yamaha RX-V665
    Computer: Lenovo g50 (soon to be upgraded to a Dell Precision 690 which is far from stock!!)
    Interconnects: Amazon basics HDMI, Acoustic Research HDMI, Monoprice speaker cables
    Speakers: Boston Acoustics CR75s

    Random equipment on standby:
    Onkyo TX-v940, JBL woofers and tweeters, single Klipsch KG .5, Yamaha guitar amplifier, Peavey Rage 158 guitar amplifier, Kicker comp 12” subwoofer, single Bose 802 series II, a whole bunch of 1”-3” full range drivers, Infinity Crescendo 3007s (on sale), Polk LSi25s
    txcoastal1 wrote: »

    You don't tell her you read the manual, and you tell her you know what the problem is, and you fixed it, because that what men do, fix things
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 2,796
    mlistens03 wrote: »
    aww I can't leave when there are cute pictures like this! :tongue:
    Viking, where on earth do you get all of these pug pictures?

    MHardy's basement. The place is FLOODED with pug pictures. :p
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 18,355
    mlistens03 wrote: »
    Viking64 wrote: »
    Clipdat wrote: »
    That's the thing, he can't be ignored. Just ask Jesse.

    That's because I am the baddest vampire on this forum! RRRRAAAAARRRRR :p

    l5hf6tzkh558.jpg

    aww I can't leave when there are cute pictures like this! :tongue:
    Viking, where on earth do you get all of these pug pictures?


    Some questions are better left unasked.
    Viking64 wrote: »
    mlistens03 wrote: »
    aww I can't leave when there are cute pictures like this! :tongue:
    Viking, where on earth do you get all of these pug pictures?

    MHardy's basement. The place is FLOODED with pug pictures. :p

    Hey! Waitaminute!

    ;)

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    "Writing about hifi is like dancing about architecture" -- paraphrasing some wag (possibly Frank Zappa)
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,305
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Also the issue I described earlier where if you happen to plug it in "just right" (aka wrong), then the internal piece of metal will get inserted between the split tip which just seems awkward and undesirable.

    Then don't use the split pins....see how easy that was ?

    Not sure what answer your looking for, but given all the responses, seems you have a few choices, none may be desirable, but that's called trial and error. Normally one would just plug it in and forget about it....UNLESS there is some deprivation to the sound obviously. Chalk it up to a learning experience and move on, not much else to be done.
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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 17,849
    After reading this thread I feel as though I have grown much more stupider than I wuz wen I woked up.

    Holicrap, it’s progressing... must get out wile i stil kan....
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 39,972
    mlistens03 wrote: »
    Hey, I need your help, I can't figure out how to ignore @viking64. :wink: :tongue:

    Congrats, you just joined the class clown and clipdik on my list. Shame, I thought you might turn out ok.....oh well.
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,209
    Yes John, I'm the stupid one, but even resident know it alls Jesse and Ivan didn't know that there were different internal designs of female RCA jacks that cause issues with split pin RCA cables.

    Let's just think about that for a moment.
    After reading this thread I feel as though I have grown much more stupider than I wuz wen I woked up.

    Holicrap, it’s progressing... must get out wile i stil kan....

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  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 1,405
    F1nut wrote: »
    mlistens03 wrote: »
    Hey, I need your help, I can't figure out how to ignore @viking64. :wink: :tongue:

    Congrats, you just joined the class clown and clipdik on my list. Shame, I thought you might turn out ok.....oh well.
    Apparently I’ve been ignored. I’m not quite sure what I did. Can someone enlighten me?
    2 channel
    Speakers: Mission 770 Freedoms
    Integrated amp: Technics SU-v75 and matching tuner
    CDP: Technics SL-PC20
    Cables: Monoprice, Monster, Acoustic Research, and a few generic ones
    TT: Technics SL-3200, direct drive
    Cartridge: Shure M97xE

    Pc gaming setup
    Receiver/amp: Yamaha RX-V665
    Computer: Lenovo g50 (soon to be upgraded to a Dell Precision 690 which is far from stock!!)
    Interconnects: Amazon basics HDMI, Acoustic Research HDMI, Monoprice speaker cables
    Speakers: Boston Acoustics CR75s

    Random equipment on standby:
    Onkyo TX-v940, JBL woofers and tweeters, single Klipsch KG .5, Yamaha guitar amplifier, Peavey Rage 158 guitar amplifier, Kicker comp 12” subwoofer, single Bose 802 series II, a whole bunch of 1”-3” full range drivers, Infinity Crescendo 3007s (on sale), Polk LSi25s
    txcoastal1 wrote: »

    You don't tell her you read the manual, and you tell her you know what the problem is, and you fixed it, because that what men do, fix things
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 2,796
    mlistens03 wrote: »
    Apparently I’ve been ignored. I’m not quite sure what I did. Can someone enlighten me?
    You made a grown man cry by having a sense of humor. :p
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