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  • RandyCroissant
    RandyCroissant Posts: 475
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    From what I understand, the fiberfill or batting is used to help break up standing waves essentially making the cabinet appear larger to the drivers. It is important to place the fiberfill behind the MWs and not let it extend down into the PR area. As far as the upper Tweeter area I don't think it matters as much.
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  • ThomasD
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    Thought the Blackhole 5 went behind the MW ?
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  • pitdogg2
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    ThomasD wrote: »
    Thought the Blackhole 5 went behind the MW ?

    You use both the black hole and polyfil. Install the BH5 on the back wall of the cabinet and then put polyfil back in.
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  • dkfreebird
    dkfreebird Posts: 1,182
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    The blackhole 5 attaches to the back of the cabinet behind the mids and then the batting goes back into its original space from the top of the cabinet to right above the passive radiator. Nothing below the mids.
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  • RandyCroissant
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    Yes it does! place a strip 4" inches wide and long enough to cover the area directly behind the MWs adhere it to the back of the cabinet, then place the fiberfill back in it's original position not to extend down into the PR area. Use 1 strip behind the Stereo driver's and 1 strip behind the SDA driver's
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  • ThomasD
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    Got it. Both affect the MW. @RandyCroissant I've just got the 7's for now, no SDA drivers to contend with yet :/:/
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  • F1nut
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    I used 3" wide strips. Too much kills the sound and the bass.
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  • ThomasD
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    dkfreebird wrote: »
    The blackhole 5 attaches to the back of the cabinet behind the mids and then the batting goes back into its original space from the top of the cabinet to right above the passive radiator. Nothing below the mids.

    Does it have any effect on the high's? Would be pretty hard to limit the fiber batting to just behind the mids I realize, so it must not matter since the tweets don't really make any internal standing waves ? Is this correct?
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  • voltz
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    I used 3" strips in my 10's and SDA 2b's.. seems to work great! but that is what @westmassguy & others like Jesse taught us to use.
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  • ThomasD
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    @F1nut & @voltz 3" wide & how long? Just the height of the driver?
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  • dkfreebird
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    edited April 2018
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    ThomasD wrote: »
    dkfreebird wrote: »
    The blackhole 5 attaches to the back of the cabinet behind the mids and then the batting goes back into its original space from the top of the cabinet to right above the passive radiator. Nothing below the mids.

    Does it have any effect on the high's? Would be pretty hard to limit the fiber batting to just behind the mids I realize, so it must not matter since the tweets don't really make any internal standing waves ? Is this correct?

    Yes,I even ran some blackhole 5 behind my tweeters on my 1.2’s.
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  • voltz
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    think I it was like 3x12 I believe ..Like Dennis said it starts at the bottom of the drivers and goes up towards the top of cabinet and the polyfill goes from bottom of drivers up to the top with none down by the PR's.
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  • RandyCroissant
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    My bad!! 3" wide strips will do the trick. However you will have to get used to the new sound, at first listen they will sound very different from what you are used to. Give them some time, well worth your patience.
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  • ThomasD
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    I'll have a 12" x 18" piece of BH, so got plenty, just want to put the proper amount in the proper location.
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  • dkfreebird
    dkfreebird Posts: 1,182
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    Just cut two 3”x6” and put them directly behind the mids.
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  • ThomasD
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    Simple enough
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  • txcoastal1
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    ThomasD wrote: »
    Simple enough

    Then quit making it complicated :D:D:D

    Enjoy :)
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  • ThomasD
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    Ok Ok. I get it. Subject closed...........
    For now. ;);)
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  • F1nut
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    Just wanted to add, in the Monitor 7's the poly fill is pretty much crammed up at the top with just a bit behind the driver
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  • Manticore
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    Ditto for me also, batting behind the tweets and mids...1C's
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