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firsttimer
firsttimer Posts: 87
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So is replacing the stock plates on my S60 speakers with jumpers worth it or can I just use the same speaker wire and cut sections and connect these wire to wire without spades on the back speaker posts. Is there any real advantage to doing this.
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  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,176
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    firsttimer wrote: »
    So is replacing the stock plates on my S60 speakers with jumpers worth it or can I just use the same speaker wire and cut sections and connect these wire to wire without spades on the back speaker posts. Is there any real advantage to doing this.

    Hello @firsttimer generally the stock plates are inferior than jumpers you can buy from a lot of audio cable sellers. Lots of choices out there. I would research the many threads in CP on speaker cables. Lot's of voices on that subject.

    I would venture to say that if you're just replacing the stock plates with generic speaker wire (depending on what kind of wire you're currently running) - not much if any benefit.

    Again if you go down the cable rabbit hole, as I have done recently, plenty of choices with folks claiming many benefits.

    I just swapped out my home brew cables (10ga wire, soldered ends, bannans jacks) with a set of MITAvt's bought here on CP and immediately noticed an improvement. Most notably the bass response. I am now a cable believer!
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  • gp4jesus
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    Do you have any spare/leftover wire? Try it
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  • firsttimer
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    Yes I have left over wire so going to try it today maybe and see what happens. Should not take long to do it.
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  • helipilotdoug
    helipilotdoug Posts: 1,229
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    Good copper wire is a much better jumper than the gold plated brass jumpers most manufacturers use. Try the wire and if you notice an improvement, then you might want to get yourself a set of jumpers. We can fix you up if you decide to go that way. :)
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  • gidrah
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    I usually use bare (no terminal) speaker wire. When I have speakers with bi-wire connections I approximate the length, add 1/2 inch, cut the sleeve, slide it up and leave enough for the other terminal. Use that space of bare wire to wrap around the other terminal.
    Make it Funky! :)
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  • F1nut
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    Well, well, well....who left the door open? :p
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  • verb
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    F1nut wrote: »
    Well, well, well....who left the door open? :p

    Aren’t you being nice today? :wink:
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    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated Amp, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's, Shunyata Hydra 8 Power Conditioner
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  • firsttimer
    firsttimer Posts: 87
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    Ok so are there any jumper cables you would recommend that will not break the bank. North of the border so can order through eBay. Maze audio comes up nut not sure if those are any good. Looking for suggestions. Thanks
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  • verb
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    Ebay has a set of WireWorld Oasis jumpers right now for 75 bucks. I've run the Oasis IC cables in my rig. A decent upgrade IMO.
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    Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, Northstar Designs Intenso DAC, Antique Sound Labs AV8 Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated Amp, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's, Shunyata Hydra 8 Power Conditioner
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    Garage #1: Cambridge Audio 640A Integrated Amp, Project Box-E BT Streamer, Polk Tsi200 Bookies, Douglas Speaker Cables, Shunyata Power Conditioner
    Garage #2: Cambridge Audio EVO150 Integrated Amplifier, Polk L200's, Analysis Plus Silver Oval 2 Speaker Cables, IC's TBD.
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  • firsttimer
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    Thanks will have a look
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  • gp4jesus
    gp4jesus Posts: 1,969
    edited March 2018
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    firsttimer wrote: »
    So is replacing the stock plates on my S60 speakers with jumpers worth it(?)
    yup
    firsttimer wrote: »
    can I just use the same speaker wire and cut sections and connect these without spades on the back speaker posts?
    YUP!! If you back out the red & black of the BPs, you’ll see a hole. A 6” piece 12 or 14 ga will do it. That’s all I did.
    firsttimer wrote: »
    Is there any real advantage to doing this?
    Doing the above? Yeah you’ll save $75!
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside* & out 8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out *soldered LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & “Plugged*” Mids - 981, connected w/MP Premiere ICs Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s *Xschop's handy work
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  • firsttimer
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    Well thanks for all your input I just put in a pair of audioquest silver jumpers. I must say there is a definite difference in sound quality I think bottom end and top end is more defined than before. Even midrange if that is possible. Time for a speaker wire up grade I see could be in my future lol if the jumpers did that can only imagine what a good set of audio quest speaker wires will do.
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  • verb
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    Lots of threads here on speaker cable. Hold on tight! :smiley:
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    Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, Northstar Designs Intenso DAC, Antique Sound Labs AV8 Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated Amp, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's, Shunyata Hydra 8 Power Conditioner
    Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Rotel RCD-1072 CD player, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
    Garage #1: Cambridge Audio 640A Integrated Amp, Project Box-E BT Streamer, Polk Tsi200 Bookies, Douglas Speaker Cables, Shunyata Power Conditioner
    Garage #2: Cambridge Audio EVO150 Integrated Amplifier, Polk L200's, Analysis Plus Silver Oval 2 Speaker Cables, IC's TBD.
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  • firsttimer
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    Yes I have been looking. I have a local store that I can by audio quest speaker cable from by the foot then attach banana plugs. We will see what happens lol
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  • verb
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    A pair of MIT terminator 4’s just popped up here on CP for sale. Smoking deal!
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS 1.2tl's, Cary SLP-05 Pre with ultimate upgrade,McIntosh MCD301 CD/SACD player, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Cambridge 851N streamer, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Silnote Morpheus Ref2, Series2 Digital Cables, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Series2 XLR's, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, Northstar Designs Intenso DAC, Antique Sound Labs AV8 Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated Amp, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's, Shunyata Hydra 8 Power Conditioner
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    Garage #1: Cambridge Audio 640A Integrated Amp, Project Box-E BT Streamer, Polk Tsi200 Bookies, Douglas Speaker Cables, Shunyata Power Conditioner
    Garage #2: Cambridge Audio EVO150 Integrated Amplifier, Polk L200's, Analysis Plus Silver Oval 2 Speaker Cables, IC's TBD.
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  • F1nut
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    There's also a nice pair of Audioquest speaker cables in the classifieds. Much better than the by the foot stuff.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • firsttimer
    firsttimer Posts: 87
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    North of the border in Canada so need to look closer to home thanks though
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  • firsttimer
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    I can order audio quest type 4 speaker cable from an online Canadian vendor. 4 foot sections with the banana plugs. Is this good speaker wire
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  • teekay0007
    teekay0007 Posts: 2,289
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    firsttimer wrote: »
    I can order audio quest type 4 speaker cable...Is this good speaker wire

    I've been using those for a while and really like them, but that's just me talking.


    Joey_V just got some new ones in that huge FedEx shipment he posted on recently. And he's the kind of guy who spends $$$ on power cables. :o


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  • Joey_V
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    Before you order, why don’t you PM me and see what you need from my little stash?
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  • Joey_V
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    firsttimer wrote: »
    Well thanks for all your input I just put in a pair of audioquest silver jumpers. I must say there is a definite difference in sound quality I think bottom end and top end is more defined than before. Even midrange if that is possible. Time for a speaker wire up grade I see could be in my future lol if the jumpers did that can only imagine what a good set of audio quest speaker wires will do.

    Well maybe you're enroute towards some silver AQ speaker wire... wink wink.
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  • F1nut
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    firsttimer wrote: »
    North of the border in Canada so need to look closer to home thanks though

    Being south of the Canadian border never stopped me from buying anything in Canada.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • rooftop59
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    F1nut wrote: »
    firsttimer wrote: »
    North of the border in Canada so need to look closer to home thanks though

    Being south of the Canadian border never stopped me from buying anything in Canada.

    And I have sold several items here and on audiogon that went up north. Lots of folks here would be willing to ship at cost, and many cables you might find here can fit in a medium size USPS priority box...
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  • tonyb
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    You have bi-wire cables by the looks of it, why did you order jumpers ? You don't need them.
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  • gp4jesus
    gp4jesus Posts: 1,969
    edited March 2018
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    @ Firsttimer:
    gp4jesus wrote: »
    Do you have any spare/leftover wire? Try it
    firsttimer wrote: »
    Yes I have left over wire... ...[I’ll*] try it today maybe and see what happens.
    Did you get around to trying leftover wire?If so, better(?) Different? No change?

    Also those AQ jumpers, they just feed the mids & tweets, connected by the lower speaker BPs? In others words the existing wire between the woofers and the amp or AVR?


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  • firsttimer
    firsttimer Posts: 87
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    I actually installed audio quest silver jumpers and have the normal speaker wire hooked up to the lower poles on the speakers. Doing this I have noticed a slight improvement in souls from kids and highs And highs. I have the S60’s crossed at 80 hertz using two Velodyne subs
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  • gp4jesus
    gp4jesus Posts: 1,969
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    @ Firsttimer:
    gp4jesus wrote: »
    Do you have any spare/leftover wire? Try it
    firsttimer wrote: »
    Yes I have left over wire... ...[I’ll*] try it maybe and see what happens.
    Did you get around to trying leftover wire, BEFORE installing the AQ jumpers? If so, better(?) Different? No change? The existing wire between the woofers and the amp or AVR are the same when you started this thread?

    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside* & out 8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out *soldered LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & “Plugged*” Mids - 981, connected w/MP Premiere ICs Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s *Xschop's handy work
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  • pitdogg2
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    firsttimer wrote: »
    Doing this I have noticed a slight improvement in souls from kids and highs And highs.
    Boy I'm confused

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  • F1nut
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    Doing this I have noticed a slight improvement in souls from kids and highs And highs.

    A tad too high me thinks.
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  • firsttimer
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    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    firsttimer wrote: »
    Doing this I have noticed a slight improvement in souls from kids and highs And highs.
    Boy I'm confused

    I would be to lol. Improvements in mids and highs lol.

    No did not use speaker wire. I removed factory plates and installed the audio quest jumpers instead.
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