POLK RTIA9 receiver??

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  • gp4jesusgp4jesus Posts: 1,132
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    oscar6220 wrote: »
    one more question, if I buy a basic 14-Gauge Speaker Wire - 50 Feet, can I cut them in half, 25 to the left and 25 to the right?

    Personally I'd go with 10 or 12 gauge if just using basic wire. Why would you need 25ft. to each?
    Go for the 10 gauge. 10 gauge will fit all Polk speaker' binding posts.
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED
    Outlaw Audio 975 Pre/Pro
    Samsung BDP, DirecTV Rcvr, Xbox 360, Dennon LDP, Phillips CD chgr

    Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside; CC outside
    BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside & out
    8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside & out

    LR: tri-amped RTi A7. Woofers, Rotel 98X amp; M & T, P'sound HCA-1000
    CC: Rotel RB985 -> tri-amped CSi A6
    5 Audio Pro Subs: 1 B1.39: 1 Evidence at each corner
    Surrounds: Hafler XL280 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3*
    Power Conditioning & Distribution:
    3 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 4 Furman Miniport 20s
    *Bi-amped by years end
  • oscar6220oscar6220 Posts: 15
    edited January 15
    alright :) I'm just waiting for my receiver to come and I think i'll be gd for a little while... any specific brand for speaker wire (10 gauge)that you recommend? last but not least, do I still need an optical digital audio cable when I have an HDMI 2.0 connecting the TV and the receiver?? TY
  • gp4jesusgp4jesus Posts: 1,132
    edited January 15
    Cable: Blue jeans or Douglass.

    Blue Jeans is less $ but Doug* will discount to Polkies - still more* $ w/the discount.

    If you go BJ, have them attach their spade
    lugs. See my...

    http://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/174880/tri-amped-rti-a7#latest

    ...thread for pics
    oscar6220 wrote: »
    ...do I still need an optical digital audio cable when I have an HDMI 2.0 connecting the TV and the receiver?? TY
    No. The HDMI does it all.

    Tony

    Post edited by gp4jesus on
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED
    Outlaw Audio 975 Pre/Pro
    Samsung BDP, DirecTV Rcvr, Xbox 360, Dennon LDP, Phillips CD chgr

    Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside; CC outside
    BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside & out
    8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside & out

    LR: tri-amped RTi A7. Woofers, Rotel 98X amp; M & T, P'sound HCA-1000
    CC: Rotel RB985 -> tri-amped CSi A6
    5 Audio Pro Subs: 1 B1.39: 1 Evidence at each corner
    Surrounds: Hafler XL280 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3*
    Power Conditioning & Distribution:
    3 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 4 Furman Miniport 20s
    *Bi-amped by years end
  • oscar6220oscar6220 Posts: 15
    What volume is acceptable for the setup right now? I don't want to blow it up, Is -30dB okay or what's the maximum. I'm just doin bi-wiring straight from the SR5011
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,044
    oscar6220 wrote: »
    What volume is acceptable for the setup right now? I don't want to blow it up, Is -30dB okay or what's the maximum. I'm just doin bi-wiring straight from the SR5011

    Different variables will determine that answer, but as a general rule of thumb, keep the volume below say -20, -15 tops. If testing those numbers, listen carefully, when the sound starts sounding shrill or congested, back off the volume....fast.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    Tad 803 bookies
    Polk 500 surrounds
    Polk s35 center
    SVS SB-2000
    Sonos

    Music-

    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k 1403 amp
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    ERA D5 bookies

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
  • oscar6220oscar6220 Posts: 15
    -37 is kinda loud to me haha, I don't think I'll push it that far, ty XD will it be okay if I make it 5.1 w/o amp?
  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 9,602
    Would not recommend, especially w/o a sub
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,044
    oscar6220 wrote: »
    -37 is kinda loud to me haha, I don't think I'll push it that far, ty XD will it be okay if I make it 5.1 w/o amp?

    Sure, but then keep the volume even lower because you'll be taxing the receiver more by adding more speakers.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    Tad 803 bookies
    Polk 500 surrounds
    Polk s35 center
    SVS SB-2000
    Sonos

    Music-

    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k 1403 amp
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    ERA D5 bookies

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
  • oscar6220oscar6220 Posts: 15
    Let say if I'm looking for an amp right now, what would u guys recommend to run this setup? I don't really have a real budget in mind just yet, 50 movie 50 music... is there a specific brand that fits best??
  • gp4jesusgp4jesus Posts: 1,132
    edited January 16
    Your music/movie ratio is irrelavent.

    Parasound 1200 or 1500 would do nicely.

    Perhaps a P'sound 1205 - all channels driven 140 WPC

    A crazier suggestion: 2 P'sound 1000 or 2 Rotel 98X series amps - one amp per tower - 200+ per side!

    Tony
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED
    Outlaw Audio 975 Pre/Pro
    Samsung BDP, DirecTV Rcvr, Xbox 360, Dennon LDP, Phillips CD chgr

    Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside; CC outside
    BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside & out
    8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside & out

    LR: tri-amped RTi A7. Woofers, Rotel 98X amp; M & T, P'sound HCA-1000
    CC: Rotel RB985 -> tri-amped CSi A6
    5 Audio Pro Subs: 1 B1.39: 1 Evidence at each corner
    Surrounds: Hafler XL280 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3*
    Power Conditioning & Distribution:
    3 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 4 Furman Miniport 20s
    *Bi-amped by years end
  • oscar6220oscar6220 Posts: 15
    I will be doing 5.1 in the end I believe, is Parasound 1200 gonna be sufficient? Any othe suggestions so I have more options?
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,044
    oscar6220 wrote: »
    I will be doing 5.1 in the end I believe, is Parasound 1200 gonna be sufficient? Any othe suggestions so I have more options?

    Yes, B&k amps work well with them too.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    Tad 803 bookies
    Polk 500 surrounds
    Polk s35 center
    SVS SB-2000
    Sonos

    Music-

    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k 1403 amp
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    ERA D5 bookies

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
  • PhilVPhilV Posts: 4
    Guys I’m working on my first setup so sorry if my question sounds newbish. I bought a Denon AVR-3300w couple of months ago. At the moment it’s not hooked to anything. I was planning to purchase a pair of a9. This is mostly to use as a home theater. Will the denon be enough for these monsters?

    Thanks a lot for your help.
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 39,603
    No.
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  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 9,602
    F1nut wrote: »
    No.

    ditto

    Honestly hindsight I wish Polk never created the 9's. They are now sold at bargains and it's hard to resist getting a b!gA$$ speakers at that price. Unfortunately we have seen to many hearts broken when people get them home, plug them into under powered HT AVR receiver and smoke the tweeters/crossovers

    They need there own amp
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
  • PhilVPhilV Posts: 4
    Alright I was already looking to amp actually. Any recommendation that would make these beast what are supposed to be? I’m in Canada which cut my options by quite a lot or at least make it harder.
  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 9,602
    Buy used, look on Canuck audiomart, 150watt min

    You can play them now just don't test them at the highest. When you get an amp the speakers will sound like they bloomed

    Careful with movies that have big bass drops till you get an amp....do you have a sub???
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 9,602
    The deal is these speakers are large enough to take signals that will dip below 4ohms and AVR's cannot sustain those dips...so something has got to give
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
  • PhilVPhilV Posts: 4
    I'd most likely leave them in their box until I get them properly AMPed then. I might be wrong but since this is for about 90% home theater use I feel that these A9, even with their downside of being so power hungry, will give me amazing results. At 400$ CAD per towers it leave me room to purchase a 300wpc amp to give them some juice.

    Am I missing something?

    For the sub I was planning to get a HSU on next trip to US. The plan is to go for a 5.1 system. A set of RTI A3 for rear and Polk Audio CSI A6 for center.

  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 9,602
    Nope sounds like a plan...good luck and post some pics
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
  • gp4jesusgp4jesus Posts: 1,132
    PhilV wrote: »
    ...purchase a 300wpc amp to give them some juice.
    should do it.
    PhilV wrote: »
    For the sub I was planning to get a HSU (or SVS?) on next trip to US. The plan is to go for a 5.1 system. A set of RTI A3 for rear and Polk Audio CSI A6 for center.
    all an excellent foundation for a great sounding system.

    Does your Denon have pre-outs? One day soon I'll have 2 5 channel amps for sale. Either has the "beans" to drive your remaining channels pretty well. But that's for another time.

    Bear patience in your journey. I've been on the that road for 38 years, 24 in HT* focus, pretty intense* the last 10. In spite of all that, I know I have another 2-4 challeging years before I reach the Cul-de-sac.

    Tony.
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED
    Outlaw Audio 975 Pre/Pro
    Samsung BDP, DirecTV Rcvr, Xbox 360, Dennon LDP, Phillips CD chgr

    Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside; CC outside
    BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside & out
    8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside & out

    LR: tri-amped RTi A7. Woofers, Rotel 98X amp; M & T, P'sound HCA-1000
    CC: Rotel RB985 -> tri-amped CSi A6
    5 Audio Pro Subs: 1 B1.39: 1 Evidence at each corner
    Surrounds: Hafler XL280 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3*
    Power Conditioning & Distribution:
    3 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 4 Furman Miniport 20s
    *Bi-amped by years end
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,335
    PhilV wrote: »
    I'd most likely leave them in their box until I get them properly AMPed then. I might be wrong but since this is for about 90% home theater use I feel that these A9, even with their downside of being so power hungry, will give me amazing results. At 400$ CAD per towers it leave me room to purchase a 300wpc amp to give them some juice.

    Am I missing something?

    For the sub I was planning to get a HSU on next trip to US. The plan is to go for a 5.1 system. A set of RTI A3 for rear and Polk Audio CSI A6 for center.

    VTF3-MK5. Dunkirk knocked the valence off of one of the blinds
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Marantz SR5010, Emotiva BasX-A300
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High TC80i
    Rear: Polk MC80
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S30
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • troff80troff80 Posts: 3
    Is it okay to power these RTiA9’s with an Emotiva XPA-2 Gen3 amp, then the CSiA6, FXiA6’s & sub with a Yamaha or Marantz AVR? I’m planning my attack on a 5.1 theater system. I would appeciate any input thanks!
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,044
    Can you ? Sure you can....but is it a good match....debatable. The RTIA9's are a bit bright and forward on top, the Emo amp is also a bit bright on top. Paired together may or may not be too much for your ears.

    In my opinion, you need a warmer amp to offset the brightness some, along with some warmer sounding cables. Parasound HCA series of amps, B&k amps, McCormack, Belles, Threshold....just some that may pair up better.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    Tad 803 bookies
    Polk 500 surrounds
    Polk s35 center
    SVS SB-2000
    Sonos

    Music-

    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k 1403 amp
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    ERA D5 bookies

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
  • gp4jesusgp4jesus Posts: 1,132
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED
    Outlaw Audio 975 Pre/Pro
    Samsung BDP, DirecTV Rcvr, Xbox 360, Dennon LDP, Phillips CD chgr

    Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside; CC outside
    BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside & out
    8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside & out

    LR: tri-amped RTi A7. Woofers, Rotel 98X amp; M & T, P'sound HCA-1000
    CC: Rotel RB985 -> tri-amped CSi A6
    5 Audio Pro Subs: 1 B1.39: 1 Evidence at each corner
    Surrounds: Hafler XL280 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3*
    Power Conditioning & Distribution:
    3 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 4 Furman Miniport 20s
    *Bi-amped by years end
  • troff80troff80 Posts: 3
    Thanks for the responses. I think I’m narrowing it down to the Parasound Halo A23 or Para 2250 v2...does anyone have a preference over the other when juicing the RTIA9s? Also, even though I’m starting with a 5.1 system I see a plethora of 7.2 avr options...any harm in using a 7.2 in the time being? I’d like to have the csia6, fxia6 surrounds & eventually a sub feed off the avr, either a marantz or yamaha.
    Thanks for your help!
  • gp4jesusgp4jesus Posts: 1,132
    Outlaw(!) and more amp(s).
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED
    Outlaw Audio 975 Pre/Pro
    Samsung BDP, DirecTV Rcvr, Xbox 360, Dennon LDP, Phillips CD chgr

    Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside; CC outside
    BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside & out
    8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside & out

    LR: tri-amped RTi A7. Woofers, Rotel 98X amp; M & T, P'sound HCA-1000
    CC: Rotel RB985 -> tri-amped CSi A6
    5 Audio Pro Subs: 1 B1.39: 1 Evidence at each corner
    Surrounds: Hafler XL280 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3*
    Power Conditioning & Distribution:
    3 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 4 Furman Miniport 20s
    *Bi-amped by years end
  • PhilVPhilV Posts: 4
    I have someone selling barely used Crown XLS 2502 at 5 min drive from home. Really good price too. Would you guys consider it a good match for a pair of A9?

    Was looking for a parasound but this Crown seems to be getting good feedbacks as well.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 3,470
    I wouldn't recommend a fan cooled professional amplifier for use with home stereo style hifi speakers.
    PhilV wrote: »
    I have someone selling barely used Crown XLS 2502 at 5 min drive from home. Really good price too. Would you guys consider it a good match for a pair of A9?

    Was looking for a parasound but this Crown seems to be getting good feedbacks as well.

    Got Dayens?
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 14,490
    troff80 wrote: »
    Thanks for the responses. I think I’m narrowing it down to the Parasound Halo A23 or Para 2250 v2...does anyone have a preference over the other when juicing the RTIA9s? Also, even though I’m starting with a 5.1 system I see a plethora of 7.2 avr options...any harm in using a 7.2 in the time being? I’d like to have the csia6, fxia6 surrounds & eventually a sub feed off the avr, either a marantz or yamaha.
    Thanks for your help!

    With the RTiA9 I'd recommend the 2250.
    PhilV wrote: »
    I have someone selling barely used Crown XLS 2502 at 5 min drive from home. Really good price too. Would you guys consider it a good match for a pair of A9?

    Was looking for a parasound but this Crown seems to be getting good feedbacks as well.

    Some people have success with Crown amps in the home setting, but their approach is completely different than home audio. Home audio amplifiers are designed with a lower noise floor in mind. Pro amps don't worry about this due to the intended application.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
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