SVS B4+ purchase - yay or nay

brettw22brettw22 Posts: 7,689
I have the possibility of buying an SVS B4+ from circa 2003 and wanted to reach out and see if any of y'all ever had extended listening time with that.

I've read some of the posts on here from 2003ish, but I wanted to see what y'all thought about adding that to the mix......
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 39,601
    It appears to be a passive sub, so you'd need an amp to drive it. Other than that, I think their newer subs are more advanced and come with a built in amp.
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  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 6,519
    That was my dream sub for so long
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    Torus RM15 -> Emm Labs DAC2x and TSDX Transport -> Cary SLP-05 preamp -> Boulder 2060 stereo amp (w/ Audioquest WEL Signature) -> new speakers
    Rotel RA1592 Super Integrated -> Sonus Faber Olympica 3
    Rotel RC1570 preamp -> Rotel RB1582 amp -> Focal Kanta 2

    Old Gear:
    Speakers: BW PM1 (3.5/5), CM10s2 (3.75/5), BW800D3 (5/5), Rockport Aviors (5/5), Sonus Faber Stradivari (5/5), BW 802D2 (4.5/5), Martin Logan Summits (4.25/5), Martin Logan Vantage (4/5), Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor (3.75/5), AV123 Strata Mini (3.5/5), ML Mosaic (3.25/5), Onix Ref1 (3/5), Sonus Faber Concerto (2.75/5), SF Concertino (2.5/5), Axiom M22ti (2/5), Polk LSi9 (3/5), LSi7 (2.9/5)
    Source: Squeezebox 3 -> PS Audio Digital Link III -> Cary 306/200 CDP -> Cary 306 SACD -> EMM LABS DAC2X/TSDX
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    Amplification: HK AVR330 -> Rotel RB1070 -> Rotel RB1090 -> Plinius SA102 -> Cary 211FE -> Classe M600 -> Boulder 2060
    Subwoofer: Infinity Entra2 sub -> SVS 25-31PC+ sub
  • EmlynEmlyn Posts: 2,044
    I would say “maybe” depending on what else would be in the mix, including the size of the listening room and the oberall objective.

    May be worth reaching out to Ed Mullen at SVS to see what he thinks. For the price of a used one plus a high output pro amp you could find something new and more suited to what you are looking at achieving.
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  • brettw22brettw22 Posts: 7,689
    edited January 1
    With a separate amp, sub, and shipping it would be about $1500ish........the end table sized B4+ is a behemoth that might be too hard to resist implementing.

    It is massive overkill (aren't they all), for what I would 'need' it for, but it would be fun to have......also might be fun to shatter a window or two if necessary to up the fun factor......

    The only qualm I have about the one I'm looking at is it's the lighter maple, so I may plan on sanding/refinishing it to a darker stain......
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  • DaveHoDaveHo Posts: 1,809
    In a way, the sub being passive could be a bit of a plus since you need not worry about the condition of amp caps & the like. I have it's little brother, the Plus/2 with the 12.3 drivers. I've never found its limit. The one you're looking at is a monster, LOL.
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 39,601
    brettw22 wrote: »
    With a separate amp, sub, and shipping it would be about $1500ish........the end table sized B4+ is a behemoth that might be too hard to resist implementing.

    It is massive overkill (aren't they all), for what I would 'need' it for, but it would be fun to have......also might be fun to shatter a window or two if necessary to up the fun factor......

    The only qualm I have about the one I'm looking at is it's the lighter maple, so I may plan on sanding/refinishing it to a darker stain......

    For $1500 you can get the new SB-4000. Looks better, has remote control and should perform better.
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  • brettw22brettw22 Posts: 7,689
    F1nut wrote: »
    For $1500 you can get the new SB-4000. Looks better, has remote control and should perform better.
    Watching the videos on that right now.......i have glimpses of rationality every once in a while, ya know.....

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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 39,601
    Of course, you do....
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  • brettw22brettw22 Posts: 7,689
    Ed was unavailable when I called, but the guy I spoke with said that in order for me to get the same umph as the B4+ I would need two PB13's or 4000's...........tempting tempting tempting......
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  • IrrenhausIrrenhaus Posts: 730
    Or for about the same price get an F25 from Rythmik. Just my 2 cents.

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  • Airplay355Airplay355 Posts: 4,153
    I vote for something newer. Curious though, what amp were you going to power that monster with?
  • VR3VR3 Posts: 21,939
    The B4 is a monster... Im not so sure SVS makes anything that would directly compare anymore.. :open_mouth:
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  • brettw22brettw22 Posts: 7,689
    Airplay355 wrote: »
    I vote for something newer. Curious though, what amp were you going to power that monster with?
    Some sort of Crown 2000-2500w thing.....the guy has as K1 or K2, but I'd want something newer.
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  • Airplay355Airplay355 Posts: 4,153
    I’m using a crown and love it. It’s way too much though (the sub and amp combo). I’ve got it turned down a good bit and keep it off for music. That b4 looks like it would be insane amounts of bass.
  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 6,519
    B4 hits 120db at 20hz iirc
    Joey's Gear:
    Current Gear:
    Torus RM15 -> Emm Labs DAC2x and TSDX Transport -> Cary SLP-05 preamp -> Boulder 2060 stereo amp (w/ Audioquest WEL Signature) -> new speakers
    Rotel RA1592 Super Integrated -> Sonus Faber Olympica 3
    Rotel RC1570 preamp -> Rotel RB1582 amp -> Focal Kanta 2

    Old Gear:
    Speakers: BW PM1 (3.5/5), CM10s2 (3.75/5), BW800D3 (5/5), Rockport Aviors (5/5), Sonus Faber Stradivari (5/5), BW 802D2 (4.5/5), Martin Logan Summits (4.25/5), Martin Logan Vantage (4/5), Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor (3.75/5), AV123 Strata Mini (3.5/5), ML Mosaic (3.25/5), Onix Ref1 (3/5), Sonus Faber Concerto (2.75/5), SF Concertino (2.5/5), Axiom M22ti (2/5), Polk LSi9 (3/5), LSi7 (2.9/5)
    Source: Squeezebox 3 -> PS Audio Digital Link III -> Cary 306/200 CDP -> Cary 306 SACD -> EMM LABS DAC2X/TSDX
    Preamplification: Rotel RC1070 -> Rogue Perseus -> Cary SLP98 -> Cary SLP98F1 -> Cary SLP05 (sold and then repurchased)
    Amplification: HK AVR330 -> Rotel RB1070 -> Rotel RB1090 -> Plinius SA102 -> Cary 211FE -> Classe M600 -> Boulder 2060
    Subwoofer: Infinity Entra2 sub -> SVS 25-31PC+ sub
  • Airplay355Airplay355 Posts: 4,153
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  • brettw22brettw22 Posts: 7,689
    I have been in China for the past few weeks, so this was on the back seat.........something to think about though for sure....
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