Denon dra 685

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Still asking ,,, first, you other folks on here seem to know about this receiver, all im asking is it a high current design, thanks.
Not an Audiophile, just a dude who loves music, and decent gear to hear it with.

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  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,640
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    You don't need to create multiple posts to ask the same question.

    Per my answer in your other thread, with its relatively low weight and low power output, I would assume that it would NOT be a high current design.
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  • thesurfer
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    Dont know what you mean, as it weighs the same as my hk, which is high current, and ive not to turn the volume beyond the 9, oclock position, and its still very loud and clean,
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,598
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    "Loudness" doesn't necessarily automatically equate with high current amplifier design.

    For example, I could turn up one of these to be quite "loud", even though it's a low current design.

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  • thesurfer
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    WoW, your a real man, among men,,, arent you, as i can see, alot sure has changed since i got back on here,,, and none for the better,,
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  • Clipdat
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    Well you asked a question, and then seemed to not like the answer that ZLTFUL gave, and replied disagreeing with him.

    So I made an informative post, trying to describe the difference between something that can play "loud", versus an amplifier that is designed using a high current topology.

    I'm sorry if you misinterpreted my post as being something other than helpful.
    thesurfer wrote: »
    WoW, your a real man, among men,,, arent you, as i can see, alot sure has changed since i got back on here,,, and none for the better,,

  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,640
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    "high current" is determined by the size of the transformer, the storage capacitance and a host of other factors. Without the manufacturer providing the amperage specs, it is purely speculation on anyone's part as to whether or not the Denon is a high current design or not.

    As for you HK, it very well could be a high current design and still weigh the same. Internal design, chassis materials, features/options all factor into the overall weight of a receiver or integrated amplifier.

    "Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."

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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,598
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    I found the PDF for the Denon and it doesn't have a complete spec sheet, but it does list a few about power:

    General
    Power supply: AC 120 V, 60 Hz
    Power consumption: 3.4 A


  • Viking64
    Viking64 Posts: 6,678
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    Wow! You guys (ZLTFUL, Clipdat) have a lot more patience than I do. :p
  • thesurfer
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    Ya, it just seems to me, there not big on putting that info in there manuals, basically i got it from a friend, its pretty nice for its age,
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  • Viking64
    Viking64 Posts: 6,678
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    thesurfer wrote: »
    there not big on putting that info in there manuals,
    Now you're just mocking me, aren't you? :'(
  • thesurfer
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    Na, i was talking to Clipdat, so dont feel intimidated,
    Not an Audiophile, just a dude who loves music, and decent gear to hear it with.
  • thesurfer
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    I dont believe, the power supply, nor the consumption, really have anything to do with the amp,,,, or what it puts out,, but thanks for you input,,,
    Not an Audiophile, just a dude who loves music, and decent gear to hear it with.
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,555
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    thesurfer wrote: »
    I dont believe, the power supply, nor the consumption, really have anything to do with the amp,,,, or what it puts out,, but thanks for you input,,,

    That may very well be true with a class D topology but when it comes to class AB topology you couldn't be further from the truth. Good heavy power supplies and very high capacitance caps to store that energy are required. Both of those equal weight.
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,093
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    The power supply is the heart of the amp, so has everything to do with it. Sounds like you need to get a bit of an education on how stuff works. We will start with sound waves... once you have this down, we will move on to transducers.

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  • thesurfer
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    Are you serous,,, i got it for free, its a class D, receiver, and an old one, all i asked was a simple question, but hey,, thanks, Spock,
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  • Viking64
    Viking64 Posts: 6,678
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    thesurfer wrote: »
    Are you serous,,, i got it for free, its a class D, receiver, and an old one, all i asked was a simple question, but hey,, thanks, Spock,

    Yeah, you asked a fairly simple question. Then it got answered. (Correctly, I might add.)

    Then you respond with this:

    "I dont believe, the power supply, nor the consumption, really have anything to do with the amp,,,, or what it puts out,, but thanks for you input,,,"

    ....which pretty much proves that no matter what you are told, you will disagree with it. (That is, if you actually bother reading the responses.) It seems any further assistance would be pointless.
  • motorhead43026
    motorhead43026 Posts: 3,892
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    It is not a high current design, plain and simple. What is the giveaway you ask, there is no amperage rating offered or specified. It is beginners equipment at best.
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  • pitdogg2
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    thesurfer wrote: »
    Are you serous,,, i got it for free, its a class D, receiver, and an old one, all i asked was a simple question, but hey,, thanks, Spock,

    I'm not aware of any of Denon gear being class D switching topologies.
    You're now just being very condescending to very knowledgeable folks who have answered your questions accurately. So you now resort to name calling.
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,093
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    thesurfer wrote: »
    Are you serous,,, i got it for free, its a class D, receiver, and an old one, all i asked was a simple question, but hey,, thanks, Spock,

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  • thesurfer
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    I was only joking, and i appreciate all of your comments, as i said, it was given to me, and i recall some older posts, where there were, at that time a lot of folks on here, that had a lot of praise for denon,receivers, and i thought one of them might have some useful input, thats all, As i have never owned a denon before, as ive got a simple HK,3490 currently, and im just a old school 2 channel guy, jimmy.
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  • mrbigbluelight
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    Surfer, it should be noted that that doesn't apply to folks leaning on a Demon. o:)

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  • F1nut
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    thesurfer wrote: »
    I dont believe, the power supply, nor the consumption, really have anything to do with the amp,,,, or what it puts out,, but thanks for you input,,,

    Might be the dumbest post ever......
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,132
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    F1nut wrote: »
    thesurfer wrote: »
    I dont believe, the power supply, nor the consumption, really have anything to do with the amp,,,, or what it puts out,, but thanks for you input,,,

    Might be the dumbest post ever......

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  • tonyb
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    Surfer,
    In case you missed it, the short answer to your question is no, it is not a high current design.
    ....and quality of power supplys has everything to do with amps, and just about anything else that has one. Merry Christmas to you. !!
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,093
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    Surfer, it should be noted that that doesn't apply to folks leaning on a Demon. o:)

    I see what you did there, but Spock on a GTO will always come out on top.
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