Headphone Amplifier??

What are you guys using, and or suggest? I am looking for one to connect to my PreAmp..
Even if the whole world knows
I don't give a damn about what they think
I don't have to stand up to your gun
I don't have to sit down when you say
Tell me I'm overboard
The truth is you just want to see me sink
If there's any room left on that ship
You don't have to save any room for me
Cause I've got my own boat (even when it rains)
I'm doing my own thing (even when it rains)
And I will stay afloat - even when it rains
Cause I've got my own boat
Row, row your boat
Row, row your boat
Row your boat
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  • mrbironmrbiron Posts: 4,556
    Bottlehead Crack

    +Speedball Kit

    Easy kit to build even for someone like you that has no DIY skills....... :p :p
    I think there are a number of us here that have the same amp so you may get a lot of the same response.
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 910
    edited December 2017
    If you like solid state, look into the Schiit Asgard 2. Sounds good to my ears.

    Asgard-2-board-1920.jpg
    NAD C 316BEE, Marantz cd6004, Rotel RCD-1072, Sony SCD-CE595, Polk Audio LSiM 703
  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 8,647
    edited December 2017
    Larry,

    Send assimilated (Danny a PM)...he's a head-fi hog

    May even be able to go visit him and see what ya can test at his place since he's relatively near you.
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  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 15,064
    Also I've liked the ifi headphone amps I've run in the past. Otherwise the Crack is really good.... or I've heard good things about the Torpedo tube amp thats a kit
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 15,064
    Also I've liked the ifi headphone amps I've run in the past. Otherwise the Crack is really good.... or I've heard good things about the Torpedo tube amp thats a kit
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    TorpedoIII-kit7.jpg
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 15,064
    Also I've liked the ifi headphone amps I've run in the past. Otherwise the Crack is really good.... or I've heard good things about the Torpedo tube amp thats a kit
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • ALL212ALL212 Posts: 666
    Crack is good. Crack is very good. Crack is fun. Crack should be what you chose.

    I'm not trying to bias you in anyway at all (Crack Crack Crack). So think (Crack) carefully before making any (Crack) decisions.

    Hope this helps and any (Crack) bias that you may infer from this post is completely (Crack) mis(Crack)leading and not in(Crack)tentional at all.
    Aaron
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 8,301
    echo in here today daaanaanaan
  • ALL212ALL212 Posts: 666
    In 1/2 seriousness...'acause I don't go serious.

    What headphones are you planning on using? The Crack does high impedance only. The torpedo probably does both high and low impedance as it is a transformer based output. But I can't find any specs on it either.






    Crack
    Aaron
  • MrBuhlMrBuhl Posts: 2,039
    I'm partial to my Schiit Valhalla - tubeyliscious.
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  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 15,064
    ALL212 wrote: »
    In 1/2 seriousness...'acause I don't go serious.

    What headphones are you planning on using? The Crack does high impedance only. The torpedo probably does both high and low impedance as it is a transformer based output. But I can't find any specs on it either.

    This help any with the specs?
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • ZLTFULZLTFUL Posts: 4,225
    For Chinese made, the LittleDot amps are pretty solid.

    I have this one with some GE JAN 5654W tubes in it that I use with my Austrian built AKGs and my Senns.
    https://www.amazon.com/Little-Dot-6JI-standard-Headphone/dp/B00A2QM5O6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1513193948&sr=8-3&keywords=LittleDot

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  • ALL212ALL212 Posts: 666
    ALL212 wrote: »
    In 1/2 seriousness...'acause I don't go serious.

    What headphones are you planning on using? The Crack does high impedance only. The torpedo probably does both high and low impedance as it is a transformer based output. But I can't find any specs on it either.

    This help any with the specs?

    yep - looks like you can hook anything up to it.

    Got a budget for this thing? I'd go with the Bottlehead Mainline if you've got the coin but it don't come cheap!

    Aaron
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 1,064
    I confused as to who makes what. Doesn't Schiit come from Crack?
  • mrbironmrbiron Posts: 4,556
    Viking64 wrote: »
    I confused as to who makes what. Doesn't Schiit come from Crack?

    My Crack has Schiit.
    Not the other way around. That would be a waste of perfectly good substance...
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  • ALL212ALL212 Posts: 666
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    Aaron
  • mrbironmrbiron Posts: 4,556
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  • Toolfan66Toolfan66 Posts: 13,474
    Thanks Guys, this gives me something to look, and think about..
    Even if the whole world knows
    I don't give a damn about what they think
    I don't have to stand up to your gun
    I don't have to sit down when you say
    Tell me I'm overboard
    The truth is you just want to see me sink
    If there's any room left on that ship
    You don't have to save any room for me
    Cause I've got my own boat (even when it rains)
    I'm doing my own thing (even when it rains)
    And I will stay afloat - even when it rains
    Cause I've got my own boat
    Row, row your boat
    Row, row your boat
    Row your boat
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 15,617
    If you're feeling a notch more ambitious than the Bottlehead/kit route (and, mind you, there's nothing wrong with Bottlehead stuff at all) -- Pete Millett (who used to, and maybe still does, design/build headphone amps for a living) has made tonnes of interesting, clever and (based on my limited experience) good-sounding hifi DIY designs available to the great unwashed DIY community.

    Now, in disclosure, I've built identically one of his designs :# (but I've built two of 'em), but I like it and I really appreciate the huge on-line resource of vacuum tube reference literature he's single-handedly* put on-line! He and Nelson Pass are DIY hifi's best buddies!

    http://www.pmillett.com
    (scroll down the page for his headphone amp designs)

    http://www.tubebooks.org/

    ______________________
    * Well, it looks like he gets, or got, some assistance from his faithful feline...

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  • nbrowsernbrowser Posts: 7,146
    edited December 2017
    Clipdat wrote: »
    If you like solid state, look into the Schiit Asgard 2. Sounds good to my ears.

    Asgard-2-board-1920.jpg

    Got one of those too, love it! Although...mine is in a fancy enclosure to help dissipate the heat the darn thing makes!
    Living room: Samsung UN55KU7000 4K UHD HDR 55 inch TV, Marantz CD6004, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon, Parasound zPhono, Mac Mini, Oppo BDP-93, XBox One S 2Tb, Kenwood DPX792BH car deck for radio purposes, Marantz SR5010 AVR, Parasound HCA-1200II, Front SDA 2 modded with Larrys Rings and RD0-194-1 tweeters, Rear Onkyo SKF-4800 Towers, Center CSiA6, BOOM Tannoy TS2.12 Sub, Audioquest Evergreen interconnects just about everywhere except from AVR to amp, MIT Terminator 4, MIT AVT3 speaker cables with extra terminals covered up Monitor 5 Jr+ in the wings for a center channel.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 910
    edited December 2017
    I used mine last night for several hours. During the first 30 minutes, it sounded so bad. Jumbled soundstage, strangely accented midrange, anemic bass, etc.

    After it fully got up to temp like after a good hour, it sounded much better. Sound smoothed out and detail improved dramatically. At the 3 hour mark it was sounding so good that I didn't want to turn it off, but it was midnight and I had to get to sleep for work in the morning.

    But yeah, it does run super hot! If you try to put your fingers on the lower right hand side where the mosfets are mounted against the enclosure, you can't leave your fingers there for long! I put some larger feet on mine that seems to help with the heat dissipation.

    nbrowser wrote: »
    Got one of those too, love it! Although...mine is in a fancy enclosure to help dissipate the heat the darn thing makes!

    NAD C 316BEE, Marantz cd6004, Rotel RCD-1072, Sony SCD-CE595, Polk Audio LSiM 703
  • nbrowsernbrowser Posts: 7,146
    Clipdat wrote: »
    I used mine last night for several hours. During the first 30 minutes, it sounded so bad. Jumbled soundstage, strangely accented midrange, anemic bass, etc.

    After it fully got up to temp like after a good hour, it sounded much better. Sound smoothed out and detail improved dramatically. At the 3 hour mark it was sounding so good that I didn't want to turn it off, but it was midnight and I had to get to sleep for work in the morning.

    But yeah, it does run super hot! If you try to put your fingers on the lower right hand side where the mosfets are mounted against the enclosure, you can't leave your fingers there for long! I put some larger feet on mine that seems to help with the heat dissipation.

    nbrowser wrote: »
    Got one of those too, love it! Although...mine is in a fancy enclosure to help dissipate the heat the darn thing makes!

    It is pure class A and Schiit makes sure to tell one in the product pages that this thing will run hot...they don't hide it.
    Living room: Samsung UN55KU7000 4K UHD HDR 55 inch TV, Marantz CD6004, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon, Parasound zPhono, Mac Mini, Oppo BDP-93, XBox One S 2Tb, Kenwood DPX792BH car deck for radio purposes, Marantz SR5010 AVR, Parasound HCA-1200II, Front SDA 2 modded with Larrys Rings and RD0-194-1 tweeters, Rear Onkyo SKF-4800 Towers, Center CSiA6, BOOM Tannoy TS2.12 Sub, Audioquest Evergreen interconnects just about everywhere except from AVR to amp, MIT Terminator 4, MIT AVT3 speaker cables with extra terminals covered up Monitor 5 Jr+ in the wings for a center channel.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 910
    What does the enclosure you made for it look like?
    nbrowser wrote: »

    It is pure class A and Schiit makes sure to tell one in the product pages that this thing will run hot...they don't hide it.

    NAD C 316BEE, Marantz cd6004, Rotel RCD-1072, Sony SCD-CE595, Polk Audio LSiM 703
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 15,064
    Clipdat wrote: »
    What does the enclosure you made for it look like?
    nbrowser wrote: »

    It is pure class A and Schiit makes sure to tell one in the product pages that this thing will run hot...they don't hide it.

    I think he just is kidding and has his in the factory enclosure...

    Asgard-2-sig-1920.jpg

    Or maybe he's not kidding and its more like this
    546669-tiny-pc-case-giant-heatsink.jpg?thumb=y&width=810&height=456

    Or this
    thermalright1.jpg
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • mrbironmrbiron Posts: 4,556
    Clipdat wrote: »
    What does the enclosure you made for it look like?
    nbrowser wrote: »

    It is pure class A and Schiit makes sure to tell one in the product pages that this thing will run hot...they don't hide it.

    It's probably sitting on top of butter tarts while an aftermarket water cooler pumps milk from a bag.
    Canadians are weird...
    :D
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  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 15,064
    mrbiron wrote: »
    Clipdat wrote: »
    What does the enclosure you made for it look like?
    nbrowser wrote: »

    It is pure class A and Schiit makes sure to tell one in the product pages that this thing will run hot...they don't hide it.

    It's probably sitting on top of butter tarts while an aftermarket water cooler pumps milk from a bag.
    Canadians are weird...
    :D

    Or he sits it outside on the snow and runs a REALLY long headphone cable through his wall to listen
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • nbrowsernbrowser Posts: 7,146
    Clipdat wrote: »
    What does the enclosure you made for it look like?
    nbrowser wrote: »

    It is pure class A and Schiit makes sure to tell one in the product pages that this thing will run hot...they don't hide it.

    I think he just is kidding and has his in the factory enclosure...

    Asgard-2-sig-1920.jpg


    Yep, looks like that, classy and can double as a small space heater...emphasis on SMALL!
    Living room: Samsung UN55KU7000 4K UHD HDR 55 inch TV, Marantz CD6004, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon, Parasound zPhono, Mac Mini, Oppo BDP-93, XBox One S 2Tb, Kenwood DPX792BH car deck for radio purposes, Marantz SR5010 AVR, Parasound HCA-1200II, Front SDA 2 modded with Larrys Rings and RD0-194-1 tweeters, Rear Onkyo SKF-4800 Towers, Center CSiA6, BOOM Tannoy TS2.12 Sub, Audioquest Evergreen interconnects just about everywhere except from AVR to amp, MIT Terminator 4, MIT AVT3 speaker cables with extra terminals covered up Monitor 5 Jr+ in the wings for a center channel.
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 15,064
    nbrowser wrote: »
    emphasis on SMALL!

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    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • minerminer Posts: 999
    I have ordered a pair of the Audeze LCD-3. Will I be able to use these with my McIntosh C2300 preamp or my Rega Brio integrated map - both have jacks built-in? Will a separate headphone amp be required?
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  • ALL212ALL212 Posts: 666
    This works but isn't quite done yet. EL84's with headphone and speakers:

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    Aaron
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