Polk S60 Sigs and a 300 wrms amp a bad idea?

Hi guys Quick bit about me. I'm a wizard with car audio. ( I have an FI SP4 18" V2 3500 wrms sub being pushed with a 5800 wrms amplifer at 1ohm in a vented box tuned to 27hz and it takes it all day. Every day..no clipping. No distortion. But those subs are meant for that type abuse.
I know I can over power car audio speakers. And how to keep my music clip free.. I know next to nothing about home theater.

I have a 4k QLED TV.
My goal.one day. Dolby atmos system.
I recently purchased a pair of Polk S60 towers for 8 bills Canadian. They arrive in a week.

(I have an old kenwood amp, like early 90s Model.number v309 maybe? its a 5.1 that states 100 [email protected] per channel (not sure if that's peak or continuous/rms.) I would like to hook my S60's up to this amp so I don't have to spend over a grand immediately on an Emotiva but I'm scared to use this amp in the meantime on my S60's. Not sure if it would damage them..not sure what kind of clean power and true rms old kenwood produce.

I watch alot alot of 4k movies. My HT system is going to be a stereo setup for now. And Dolby atmos later.
I listen to alot of electronic jungle/drum and bass/trap/uk grime etc... 99% of my music files are 320kbps or .flac quality files..my setup is downstairs in my basement and shares the space with my.gym. I listen to music loud

I'm about to order an Emotiva XPA2 - Gen3 to power the S60s. Emotiva states a XPA 2 pushes 300watts rms @8ohms per channel on their 2 channel amp.

Polk S60 says 20-300 watts @8ohms per speaker per channel
(Does that mean 300 peak or 300 rms)


I read this in the Polk instruction manual for the S60 and it just confused the living hell out of me.......,....,............

Polk Audio specifies the recommended amplification range for
each of its passive (non-amplified) loudspeakers. Typically that
specification will be expressed as a range of power such as
20-200 Watts (per channel). It is important to understand what
those numbers mean when choosing a receiver or amplifier for
your Polk loudspeakers. The lower number indicates the lowest
continuous rated power that will yield acceptable performance in
a typical listening environment. The higher number indicates the
highest per channel power that should be used with your Polk
speakers. That number should not be confused with a “Power
Handling” specification, and it does not imply that the speaker will
safely handle that full amount of power on a long-term basis. We
specify a wide range of power ratings because not all electronics
manufacturers use the same method for rating power. In fact, high
quality lower-rated amplifiers sound better and play louder than low
quality units with higher power rating.
Similarly, we recommend using amplifiers and receivers with rated
power above the Power Handling limits of our speakers because
having extra power available for short term peaks is conducive to
better sound quality, maximum dynamic range and effortless high
volume output. But we strongly urge you not to use the full power
of your amplifier or receiver for daily listening.
Loudspeakers can be damaged when an amplifier, regardless of
its wattage, is made to play at higher listening levels than its power
can clearly produce. Operation at this level can result in very high
levels of audible distortion originating in the amplifier, which can
add a harsh, gritty sound to your listening material. Simply put,
avoid excessive amplifier volume. If you hear distortion—turn the
volume down or risk damaging your speakers. You can damage
just about any speaker, regardless of power rating, if you drive an
amplifier to or beyond the point of distortion. And always make}
sure the amplifier is turned off when you’re connecting or
disconnecting cables.,.........................

So do these speakers Excel when hooked up to 300 watts rms with cleaner power like an Emotiva amp or am I going to damage them. Polk has left this way to vage and open for beginners. They say don't under power them but don't under power them or they'll.sound like ****.

Any and all help id appreciated.
Cheers
Mack
Home theater:
-Samsung 65" Q7F Qled - XboxOneX
-Marantz 9.2 Channel SR6011
-Tech 1200's
-Polk S60 Towers

Car Audio:
-4500 wrms cresendo mono block amp
-Fi SP4 v2 18" sub (3000 wrms)
-hertz 1000watt 4 channel
-hertz mille component speakers
-hertz spl 10" 600 wrms sub
-370amp mechman alternator
-2xs power 3300 amp batteries
-2/0 gauge ofc everything

Comments

  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 14,566
    Where is local? I'll try to find some better options for you.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • Local is grande prairie Alberta for me skip.
    An Emotiva xpa 2 gen 3 shipped to my door all said and done from summit hi-fi is 1300.00 Canadian. And I heard Emotiva while not as good as parasound.and blah blah blah do have awsome bang for the buck. Why I was leaning towards that.
    However I'm always open to suggestions. After spending cash on the qled and the 60s Id PREFER not to go above 1300 at this point and time SINCE it would be going on my credit card.
    Home theater:
    -Samsung 65" Q7F Qled - XboxOneX
    -Marantz 9.2 Channel SR6011
    -Tech 1200's
    -Polk S60 Towers

    Car Audio:
    -4500 wrms cresendo mono block amp
    -Fi SP4 v2 18" sub (3000 wrms)
    -hertz 1000watt 4 channel
    -hertz mille component speakers
    -hertz spl 10" 600 wrms sub
    -370amp mechman alternator
    -2xs power 3300 amp batteries
    -2/0 gauge ofc everything
  • Hey I'm in the same bought you are bought 3 S60's for my L C R and soon I'll be ready to upgrade to a true power amp. So whatever you find out in your journey on this I'd appreciate your experience. Really would like an answer to this as well. Good luck to you on your journey I'll keep you posted If I find out anything as well
  • MackMurderMackMurder Posts: 27
    Dan these s60s hooked up.to.my.marantz. playing a 320kpbs track off a USB stick are amazing. They deliver. I have no sub and the lower end shakes the house on those s60s. And the maratnz is only 140 wpc. Really happy with my.current setup.

    However for a power amp.im leaning towards a Parasound halo a21
    Or a bryston 4b st

    Both have amazing reviews. And can be found used for wicked prices. And bryston has a 20 year warranty policie.

    Was looking into krell and things along those lines but apparently the bryston is better in alot.of ways. And the Parasound is comparable to the bryston. Will keep you posted on my findings.
    Home theater:
    -Samsung 65" Q7F Qled - XboxOneX
    -Marantz 9.2 Channel SR6011
    -Tech 1200's
    -Polk S60 Towers

    Car Audio:
    -4500 wrms cresendo mono block amp
    -Fi SP4 v2 18" sub (3000 wrms)
    -hertz 1000watt 4 channel
    -hertz mille component speakers
    -hertz spl 10" 600 wrms sub
    -370amp mechman alternator
    -2xs power 3300 amp batteries
    -2/0 gauge ofc everything
  • cfrizzcfrizz Posts: 12,930
    Hi Mack, your S60s will do just fine with an Emotiva XPA amp. The speakers will only take what they need, and they will have all they need with that amp since it has the capability to deliver the power when it is needed. That's the most important factor.

    All of my speakers including my S60s are powered by a Sunfire 5 channel 405wpc amp and sound terrific. I can rock my system all day long at any volume I want low or high and everything is clear as a bell.

    Having an amp isn't about volume, it's about having your speakers operate to their full potential.

    Emotiva has thrived because they are able to let people get into a higher quality of gear without breaking the bank. Go for it and report back. :)
    Sunfire TGP III PrePro, Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature 405wpc 5 ch. Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony Bravia KDL-40R510C TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Boston VR-920 Center Channel, SVS NSD-12 SB12 Subwoofer, Polk DSW 400 Subwoofer, Polk FXi-3 Surround Speakers
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 39,778
    edited March 27
    The speakers will only take what they need

    Ummmm......speakers don't take. The amp is what drives them.

    Emo thrived in the beginning because they were cheap, had a large number of fanboi's who wouldn't know good sound if it hit them in the ears and had a big marketing push early on. They are not thriving now that people realized the cake wasn't as good as the frosting.
    Post edited by F1nut on
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • ken brydsonken brydson Posts: 6,960
    F1nut wrote: »
    The speakers will only take what they need

    Ummmm......speakers don't take. The amp is what drives them.

    Emo thrived on the beginning because they were cheap, had a large number of fanboi's who wouldn't know good sound if it hit them in the ears and had a big marketing push early on. They are not thriving now that people realized the cake wasn't as good as the frosting.

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    Mmm, cake....
    HT/Main- Panny 50" G10 Plasma, Pioneer SC-1222k AVR, Panny DMP-BD60 BDP, Polk LS90 mains, CS350LS center, LS/fx side surrounds, LS50 surround backs, SVS 25-31PC+ sub, Harmony One

    Office Rig- Marantz 2252B, Denon 2910, Kenwood KD2070 TT, Polk RTA 12B's/ RTA8t
  • cfrizzcfrizz Posts: 12,930
    Emotiva is still in business, if they weren't doing well they would have been long gone.

    If you have proof they aren't doing well, please feel free to post proof.
    Sunfire TGP III PrePro, Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature 405wpc 5 ch. Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony Bravia KDL-40R510C TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Boston VR-920 Center Channel, SVS NSD-12 SB12 Subwoofer, Polk DSW 400 Subwoofer, Polk FXi-3 Surround Speakers
  • dolbyddolbyd Posts: 256
    cfrizz wrote: »
    Emotiva is still in business, if they weren't doing well they would have been long gone.

    If you have proof they aren't doing well, please feel free to post proof.

    I have had good luck with my Emotiva products. I don’t think they are the best. I do however feel they are a good product.
    I do plan to get Parasound Halos when I upgrade and they will be better but at the cost I paid I have been happy.

    Funny that Paul McGowan at PS Audio is using Emotiva in his personal home system.


    Main room- RTiA9 x4, CSiA6, in ceiling Atmos RT-70 x4, SVS PC 4000 x2, Marantz 7704, OPPO 203, Emotiva XPA-5 Gen2, Emotiva X-500,X-150, Sony 75" 940E, Panasonic Plasma VT50,PS Audio Power Port X2, Perfect Wave AC-5 x4

    Office- Infinity Kappa 600, Kappa Center, in ceiling Polk RC80i, SVS PC 2000, Marantz 5010, OPPO 203, Emotiva X300, Sony 48"

    Master BR- LSi7, LSiC, LSI700 in ceiling, SVS-PC 2000, Marantz SR5012, Adcom 7500, OPPO 203, Pioneer DVL-919 Laser Disc, Sony 55" 800B

    Workout room- RT2000P, CS1000P, Pioneer Elite SC81, OPPO 103, Panasonic Plasma VT 42"

    Patio- SDI Atrium8 x3, Emotiva A-100 amps x3

    Storage room at this time- LS90, RT16, CS350LS
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,202
    Paul is using Emo amps for his HT, which is what everyone pretty much agrees is their strong suit. Music...not so much.

    That works great if all you use one system for is HT, but if you want to listen to music with the same system, better choices are to be had. That's not bashing Emo amps btw, simply stating their main purpose in life. Doesn't mean you can't use them for music, but if a clear and airy top end, with no fatigue interests you, then Emo amps shouldn't....especially when paired with bright speakers like RTI's.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    Tad 803 bookies
    Polk 500 surrounds
    Polk s35 center
    SVS SB-2000
    Sonos

    Music-

    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k 1403 amp
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    ERA D5 bookies

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
  • dolbyddolbyd Posts: 256
    tonyb wrote: »
    Paul is using Emo amps for his HT, which is what everyone pretty much agrees is their strong suit. Music...not so much.

    That works great if all you use one system for is HT, but if you want to listen to music with the same system, better choices are to be had. That's not bashing Emo amps btw, simply stating their main purpose in life. Doesn't mean you can't use them for music, but if a clear and airy top end, with no fatigue interests you, then Emo amps shouldn't....especially when paired with bright speakers like RTI's.

    Makes sense.
    I use my Emotivas for HT 90% of the time.
    For music I normally run the LSI/Adcom setup in the MB.
    Main room- RTiA9 x4, CSiA6, in ceiling Atmos RT-70 x4, SVS PC 4000 x2, Marantz 7704, OPPO 203, Emotiva XPA-5 Gen2, Emotiva X-500,X-150, Sony 75" 940E, Panasonic Plasma VT50,PS Audio Power Port X2, Perfect Wave AC-5 x4

    Office- Infinity Kappa 600, Kappa Center, in ceiling Polk RC80i, SVS PC 2000, Marantz 5010, OPPO 203, Emotiva X300, Sony 48"

    Master BR- LSi7, LSiC, LSI700 in ceiling, SVS-PC 2000, Marantz SR5012, Adcom 7500, OPPO 203, Pioneer DVL-919 Laser Disc, Sony 55" 800B

    Workout room- RT2000P, CS1000P, Pioneer Elite SC81, OPPO 103, Panasonic Plasma VT 42"

    Patio- SDI Atrium8 x3, Emotiva A-100 amps x3

    Storage room at this time- LS90, RT16, CS350LS
  • danzilla31danzilla31 Posts: 94
    MackMurder wrote: »
    Dan these s60s hooked up.to.my.marantz. playing a 320kpbs track off a USB stick are amazing. They deliver. I have no sub and the lower end shakes the house on those s60s. And the maratnz is only 140 wpc. Really happy with my.current setup.

    However for a power amp.im leaning towards a Parasound halo a21
    Or a bryston 4b st

    Both have amazing reviews. And can be found used for wicked prices. And bryston has a 20 year warranty policie.

    Was looking into krell and things along those lines but apparently the bryston is better in alot.of ways. And the Parasound is comparable to the bryston. Will keep you posted on my findings.

    Yeah those speakers are amazing aren't they? I can with the subs turned off hit the low end with mine hard enough to set off the glass sensor alarms in my house alarm! Lol. Yeah for sure keep me posted love to hear what you find out and I'll do the same for you on my end as well.
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 39,778
    cfrizz wrote: »
    Emotiva is still in business, if they weren't doing well they would have been long gone.

    Strange logic. You do realize a company can stay in business although they aren't raking it in like they once were, don't you?
    If you have proof they aren't doing well, please feel free to post proof.

    Lack of advertising, sure sign the money is tight.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


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