LSiM 703 vs. CRS+4.1TL version

Hey all, I'm in the process of rebuilding a pair of CRS+'s upgrading them to the 4.1TL.

I'm intrigued by the LSiM703's at the current Friends & Family price, I've always loved the look of these speakers, especially in Cherry, but I've held off on buying them until now (maybe).

I know the 703's won't compete with the CRS's on Soundstage width, or the SDA presentation, but will the 703's outclass the CRS's in every other area?

The speakers will be accompanied by a pair of Rythmik F8 Subs.

If anyone has had both the CRS+'s and the 703's I would appreciate any feedback you might have.

TIA, Mike

SDA SRS 3.1TL's/SDA CRS+4.1TL's and some other stuff
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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 14,566
    They won't touch the upgraded crs.
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  • LegenderLegender Posts: 447
    That's interesting... as I thought the 703s sounded pretty good. But then, I've never heard the CRSs.
    Music: Oppo103 - Parasound JC2 - Parasound A21- SDA 3.1
    Theater: Denon 3808 - B&K 7500/Emotiva XPA-3- RTi12, CSi5, RTiA7x4, PSW505
    Sleeping: Marantz 70005 - Harman Kardon 2400 - SDA 2
    2 Channel: Cary 306 SACD - Canary Audio 906 - Pass Labs x250 - PS Audio Perfectwave DAC, Polk LSiM705, SVS SB13 Ultra
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  • Mike ReeterMike Reeter Posts: 3,249
    DSkip wrote: »
    They won't touch the upgraded crs.

    Thanks Derek, I'm thinking you might have just saved me around 7 bills, I'll return the favor one day.

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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 39,778
    DSkip wrote: »
    They won't touch the upgraded crs.

    I concur.
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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 14,566
    Legender wrote: »
    That's interesting... as I thought the 703s sounded pretty good. But then, I've never heard the CRSs.

    They are good speakers, but modded SDA's are damn fine when done right. You aren't playing on a level field at that point. Stock vs. stock, it would come down to preference and I think I'd rather go with the LSiM, if that makes you feel any better.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 2,503
    DSkip wrote: »
    Legender wrote: »
    That's interesting... as I thought the 703s sounded pretty good. But then, I've never heard the CRSs.

    They are good speakers, but modded SDA's are damn fine when done right. You aren't playing on a level field at that point. Stock vs. stock, it would come down to preference and I think I'd rather go with the LSiM, if that makes you feel any better.

    Ok, time to find some sideway Polk's. :D
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  • LegenderLegender Posts: 447
    So hard to find the CRS versions (clean and decent)... what about upgraded 3.1TLs? Would they compare favorably as the upgraded CRSs? And beat out the 703s and 705s?
    Maybe I'm wasting my time/money on the newer speakers.
    Music: Oppo103 - Parasound JC2 - Parasound A21- SDA 3.1
    Theater: Denon 3808 - B&K 7500/Emotiva XPA-3- RTi12, CSi5, RTiA7x4, PSW505
    Sleeping: Marantz 70005 - Harman Kardon 2400 - SDA 2
    2 Channel: Cary 306 SACD - Canary Audio 906 - Pass Labs x250 - PS Audio Perfectwave DAC, Polk LSiM705, SVS SB13 Ultra
    Office: Dell Optiplex, Emotiva XDA-2, Adcom 5500, LSiM 703
    Spares: Yamaha CA-810; LSi 15; Kenwood Basic M2a, Yamaha M60/M80, Polk Monitor 7, SVS SB13 Ultra
  • Mike ReeterMike Reeter Posts: 3,249

    Legender wrote: »
    So hard to find the CRS versions (clean and decent)... what about upgraded 3.1TLs? Would they compare favorably as the upgraded CRSs? And beat out the 703s and 705s?
    Maybe I'm wasting my time/money on the newer speakers.

    Carlton, I should have had my modded 3.1's in place when you visited, they do sound quite good.

    I had a pair of "lightly" modded 4.1TL CRS+'s, and like a damn fool, sold them. I came across another pair that I'm working on now. The CRS's put out an amazing sound for their size...soo easy to listen to.



    SDA SRS 3.1TL's/SDA CRS+4.1TL's and some other stuff
  • Mike ReeterMike Reeter Posts: 3,249

    F1nut wrote: »
    DSkip wrote: »
    They won't touch the upgraded crs.

    I concur.

    This has been my thoughts also, but without actually getting ears on the 703's, I just did'nt know for sure. I guess that's why I haven't popped on the 703's before now.

    Thanks for the remarks guys, appreciate it.

    SDA SRS 3.1TL's/SDA CRS+4.1TL's and some other stuff
  • You should also consider the 2b modded and TL d they are quite good
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  • dhart86dhart86 Posts: 1,398
    Late to the party Mike, but I had both speakers and the CRS's hands down
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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 14,566
    Looks great! In the end, you will have more pride with those CRS than with the 703's anyways. I think you made the right choice.
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    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
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    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • monepolkmonepolk Posts: 835
    Those look very nice.
  • Thanks again for the remarks, I decided not to pop on the 703's (at least not during this last Sale) :)

    I have the CRS cabinets about finished, I striped the old Vinyl covering off of them and Veneered with a Birdseye Maple, stained and finished.

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    They look great.

    I need to learn how to work with veneer. I have few pairs of Polk's I'd like to veneer.
    "Make a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Light
    a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."

  • Mike ReeterMike Reeter Posts: 3,249
    TNTsTunes wrote: »
    Thanks again for the remarks, I decided not to pop on the 703's (at least not during this last Sale) :)

    I have the CRS cabinets about finished, I striped the old Vinyl covering off of them and Veneered with a Birdseye Maple, stained and finished.

    g58s24oqipa4.jpg

    6s91rm4zkcu7.jpg

    afta9czanyd6.jpg


    They look great.

    I need to learn how to work with veneer. I have few pairs of Polk's I'd like to veneer.

    This was my first attempt at Veneering, it was a Beouch to say the least. I used a Raw Veneer that was not "pre-glued". I did use a Heat Sensitive, Iron-on type glue, but the process was still a PITA.

    The raw Veneer does funny things when you apply the glue to it, curls up and makes it tough to apply to the cabinet without it cracking or splitting on you.

    'If" I attempt to Veneer anything else, I will try the "Pre-Glued" material that you just lay on and heat with an iron to make the bond.


    SDA SRS 3.1TL's/SDA CRS+4.1TL's and some other stuff
  • MrBuhlMrBuhl Posts: 2,299
    Threads like this make me really really curious - just how good are these CRS+TLs? Better than 2Btl's? Inquiring minds want to know what they are missing!!

    Love Polks that are re-veneered in wood BTW!
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  • Mike ReeterMike Reeter Posts: 3,249
    MrBuhl wrote: »
    Threads like this make me really really curious - just how good are these CRS+TLs? Better than 2Btl's? Inquiring minds want to know what they are missing!!

    Love Polks that are re-veneered in wood BTW!

    Although I can't compare the two models, as I've not had ears on the modded 2B's, I will say that the CRS+4.1TL version sound quite good for their size, mine will be accompanied by a pair of these

    http://www.ascendacoustics.com/pages/products/subs/f8.html
    SDA SRS 3.1TL's/SDA CRS+4.1TL's and some other stuff
  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 9,656
    Great thread...Good job Mike

    Happy Holidays
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  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 15,652
    Rock on Mike! That will be EPIC!

    I’m still gonna eventually go Stereo subs in the loft
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  • LegenderLegender Posts: 447
    They look great Mike. Should make plans to hear them come next year. Hope you and yours have a great holiday.
    Music: Oppo103 - Parasound JC2 - Parasound A21- SDA 3.1
    Theater: Denon 3808 - B&K 7500/Emotiva XPA-3- RTi12, CSi5, RTiA7x4, PSW505
    Sleeping: Marantz 70005 - Harman Kardon 2400 - SDA 2
    2 Channel: Cary 306 SACD - Canary Audio 906 - Pass Labs x250 - PS Audio Perfectwave DAC, Polk LSiM705, SVS SB13 Ultra
    Office: Dell Optiplex, Emotiva XDA-2, Adcom 5500, LSiM 703
    Spares: Yamaha CA-810; LSi 15; Kenwood Basic M2a, Yamaha M60/M80, Polk Monitor 7, SVS SB13 Ultra
  • Mike ReeterMike Reeter Posts: 3,249
    edited November 2017
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    Great thread...Good job Mike

    Happy Holidays
    Legender wrote: »
    They look great Mike. Should make plans to hear them come next year. Hope you and yours have a great holiday.

    Thanks guys, Happy Holidays to you as well.

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  • Mike ReeterMike Reeter Posts: 3,249
    Rock on Mike! That will be EPIC!

    I’m still gonna eventually go Stereo subs in the loft

    I highly recommend the Rythmiks, they are Seriously built and perform as advertised. They have been one of the best improvements to my set up that I've made for a long while.



    SDA SRS 3.1TL's/SDA CRS+4.1TL's and some other stuff
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 15,652
    Rock on Mike! That will be EPIC!

    I’m still gonna eventually go Stereo subs in the loft

    I highly recommend the Rythmiks, they are Seriously built and perform as advertised. They have been one of the best improvements to my set up that I've made for a long while.



    Bit too pricey for my taste.... I've got a MicroPro 2k right now, and I'd add another for my super small room and be more than happy....

    The BIG BASS is going to be downstairs....
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 14,566
    That's a nice sub Dan. Not too deep, but its big sound for its size and well controlled.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 15,652
    DSkip wrote: »
    That's a nice sub Dan. Not too deep, but its big sound for its size and well controlled.

    Agreed. Thats why I dont want to go bigger, just duals for slightly more impact and null reduction.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • Mike ReeterMike Reeter Posts: 3,249
    Rock on Mike! That will be EPIC!

    I’m still gonna eventually go Stereo subs in the loft

    I highly recommend the Rythmiks, they are Seriously built and perform as advertised. They have been one of the best improvements to my set up that I've made for a long while.



    Bit too pricey for my taste.... I've got a MicroPro 2k right now, and I'd add another for my super small room and be more than happy....

    The BIG BASS is going to be downstairs....

    I certainly wouldn't see anything wrong with a pair of the MicroPro's!
    SDA SRS 3.1TL's/SDA CRS+4.1TL's and some other stuff
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 3,800
    Nice job Mike! Great to see you still posting on the forum and enjoying the hobby :)
    Got Dayens?
  • Mike ReeterMike Reeter Posts: 3,249
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Nice job Mike! Great to see you still posting on the forum and enjoying the hobby :)

    Still among the living ;)
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