Power conditioners.

I do not, and never have, used a power conditioner. Are they worth the investment? I've seen a lot of them listed on eBay, and that makes me think I might be able to snag a good deal while also wondering 'why are people ditching these'?
Polk SDA SRS 1.2
Yamaha M-65 (2x, bi-amped)
Pioneer Elite SC-99
Polk CS400 center
Polk MC-60 4x Atmos
Polk AB700 side surround

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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 7,829
    edited November 6
    I do not, and never have, used a power conditioner. Are they worth the investment? I've seen a lot of them listed on eBay, and that makes me think I might be able to snag a good deal while also wondering 'why are people ditching these'?

    Last place I'd buy one..... Do you know if they have taken a good hit? Nope
    They right ones are worth their weight in gold, others not so much.

    I'd only buy use if i knew you real well.
  • I don't know. You have to wonder how often these things get stressed with a voltage spike.
    Polk SDA SRS 1.2
    Yamaha M-65 (2x, bi-amped)
    Pioneer Elite SC-99
    Polk CS400 center
    Polk MC-60 4x Atmos
    Polk AB700 side surround
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,144
    edited November 6
    one thing to look at, how much $$$$$ do you have is your gear. What part of the country do you live in? Are there are thunderstorms in your area? If yes, then a good power conditioner/surge protector is a must. I don't know how many times I've seen people hooking up $1.000 TV and $2k in audio to a Costco $10 Cyberlync surge protector.

    My mom lives in Oklahoma, Everything in her house is plugged into these

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002YDZWO/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_12?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

    She has yet to have anything fry so I got one to try. Yes the picture did get a little cleaner on my TV and maybe a little help on my audio.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Marantz SR5010, Emotiva BasX-A300
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk TSX250C
    Front High TC80i
    Rear: Polk MC80
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S30
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 1,506
    Kind of depends on what you're wanting it to do. Do you want true power conditioning? Or, are you just looking for equipment protection? Some designed just for protection can actually degrade your SQ.

    As mentioned, beware of used unless you know its history.
    Main System:
    Joule-Electra LA 100 MKIII
    Pass Labs Aleph 30, McCormack DNA-125, Parasound A21
    Marantz SA-14S1
    Usher CP-6311/Tyler Acoustics Taylo Reference Monitor, LSA-1
    Dual SVS SB2000
    Wireworld Equinox 7 bi-wire, Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 IC

    Secondary Rig:
    Parasound P5, Audio Electronics by Cary Constellation
    Marsh a200s, Audio Elecrtonics by Cary Hercules
    Pioneer Elite DV-45a, Denon DVD-2910
    Klipsch Epic CF-1, Vandersteen 3CE sig
    Analysus Plus Oval

  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 38,147
    edited November 7
    Real power conditioning/surge protection costs money. Look at products from PS Audio, Shunyata and SurgeX, all proven to be worth the coin.

    Another thing, power amps should be plugged directly into the wall.
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  • TNTsTunesTNTsTunes Posts: 451
    I have a Furman Elite-15 PFi power conditioner and I've been quite happy with it. It also has 45 amps of AC power reserve which improved my amps performance and sound when compared to being plugged into the wall or my old Panamax 5100 which is now in my garage.
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  • [quote="F1nut;

    Another thing, power amps should be plugged directly into the wall.[/quote]

    Why is that? Do conditioners restrict current?
    Polk SDA SRS 1.2
    Yamaha M-65 (2x, bi-amped)
    Pioneer Elite SC-99
    Polk CS400 center
    Polk MC-60 4x Atmos
    Polk AB700 side surround
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 7,829
    edited November 7
    Yes some do restrict current. Many amps also have power conditioning type of device just past the incoming power cord, not all but some. 20 amp circuits and wire do not impede the juice your amp wants to pull.
  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 1,506
    I have the Ps Power Plant 3 and I use the amp circuit on it and am happy with the results. Some can restrict peak current.
    Main System:
    Joule-Electra LA 100 MKIII
    Pass Labs Aleph 30, McCormack DNA-125, Parasound A21
    Marantz SA-14S1
    Usher CP-6311/Tyler Acoustics Taylo Reference Monitor, LSA-1
    Dual SVS SB2000
    Wireworld Equinox 7 bi-wire, Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 IC

    Secondary Rig:
    Parasound P5, Audio Electronics by Cary Constellation
    Marsh a200s, Audio Elecrtonics by Cary Hercules
    Pioneer Elite DV-45a, Denon DVD-2910
    Klipsch Epic CF-1, Vandersteen 3CE sig
    Analysus Plus Oval

  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 5,721
    I have a P5, I cannot figure out (possibly because I am short on time), which combination of electronics plugged into it yield the best sound. Right now I am testing out the amp and preamp into the wall, while the Emm Transport and Emm DAC into the P5.
    Joey's Gear:
    Current Gear:
    Emm Labs DAC2x and TSDX Transport -> Cary SLP-05 preamp -> Boulder 2060 stereo amp (w/ Audioquest WEL Signature B) ) -> new speakers -> :D
    Rotel RA1592 Super Integrated -> Sonus Faber Olympica 3 -> :o
    Rotel RC1570 preamp -> Rotel RB1582 amp -> B&W PM1 -> o:)

    Old Gear:
    Speakers: Rockport Aviors (5/5), Sonus Faber Stradivari (5/5), BW 802D2 (4.5/5), Martin Logan Summits (4.25/5), Martin Logan Vantage (4/5), Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor (3.75/5), AV123 Strata Mini (3.5/5), ML Mosaic (3.25/5), Onix Ref1 (3/5), Sonus Faber Concerto (2.75/5), SF Concertino (2.5/5), Axiom M22ti (2/5), Polk LSi9 (3/5), LSi7 (2.9/5)
    Source: Squeezebox 3 -> PS Audio Digital Link III -> Cary 306/200 CDP -> Cary 306 SACD -> EMM LABS DAC2X/TSDX
    Preamplification: Rotel RC1070 -> Rogue Perseus -> Cary SLP98 -> Cary SLP98F1 -> Cary SLP05 (sold and then repurchased)
    Amplification: HK AVR330 -> Rotel RB1070 -> Rotel RB1090 -> Plinius SA102 -> Cary 211FE -> Classe M600 -> Boulder 2060
    Subwoofer: Infinity Entra2 sub -> SVS 25-31PC+ sub
  • Moose68BashMoose68Bash Posts: 3,441
    I use a Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One 5.0 power conditioner in my main system and plug all components into it -- CAT 600.2 amp, PS Audio DirectStream DAC and PerfectWave Transport, MacIntosh C220 tube pre.

    Before I installed the power conditioner, I had a lot of noise in the background. After installing it, the background is black.

    As others have said, good power conditioning is expensive, but it is worth every penny in SQ improvement, in my opinion.
    Family Room, PS Audio PW Transport, DirectStream DAC; AQ Sky XLRs, Perreaux SM6 MKII Pre; AQ Sky XLRs, Perreaux Prisma 750 Amps or CAT 600.2 Dualmono Amp, Morrow SP7 Speaker Cables, SDA SRS 1.2tls (RD0198s, Dreadnought, Black Hole 5, Acousta-Stuf, Dynamat Extreme, JBWeld. Vr3 Mods: "The Abbot" Monastery-Level Xovers, Custom Internal Wiring, Binding Post Plates, & SDA ICs).

    Exercise Room, Wadia 171 iPod Dock, PS Audio PerfectWave MkII DAC, AQ Sky XLRs, Perreaux SM6 Preamp, AQ King Cobra RCAs, Perreaux PMF3150 Amp, Dreadnought, Supra Rondo 4x2.5 Speaker Cables, SDA 1Cs (Vr3 Mods Xovers).

    Synology 713+ NAS on Gigabit LAN serving PW MkII DAC & DirectStream DAC.
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