Youse guyses might enjoy/appreciate this: "receiver reviews"

mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 15,045
edited October 21 in Electronics
I saw this link posted Somewhere Else and, ever curious, I perused it.

https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-receiver/?utm_source=outbrain&utm_medium=cpa&utm_campaign=wc-performance&utm_term=CNN+Catch-all

For all I know, the advice might be good -- but I am a wee bit skeptical, given a subsection titled "Why Should You Trust Us?" Well, that inspires confidence :)

It goes on to say:
We spent more than 10 hours researching and selecting models based on what more than 1,000 surveyed Wirecutter readers told us they needed in a receiver. We then spent another 70 hours installing, setting up, and testing each model in a home theater to determine which one was the best choice. This year’s process was even more extensive than last year’s, when we tested six models for 50 hours.

I’ve been writing about and reviewing home theater equipment for close to a decade. In that time I’ve listened to dozens of receivers, preamps, and amplifiers to recognize the differences between them.
Wow. More than ten whole hours.
And the guy's been writing about audio for close to a decade. Heck, I've got half finished hifi projects I've been working on for more than a decade...

Then again, maybe this is the best 'shoot out style' review extant -- and I shouldn't be so snarky.

I am doubtful, though.
"Some amps run on self bias, some amps run on fixed bias. But his amps run on confirmation bias." -- seen on audioasylum

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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 15,045
    I think it was also because it cost more, if I read correctly.
    I mean, good heavens, man, they spent 10 hours researching!
    That must be good information!

    "Some amps run on self bias, some amps run on fixed bias. But his amps run on confirmation bias." -- seen on audioasylum

  • rpf65rpf65 Posts: 1,421
    Trying to figure out if the author is a Denon fanboy, or thinks anything above entry level is cr**.

  • Yep2Yep2 Posts: 778
    Its ..."You Guys".
    Electronics major with a English minor Mark?
  • cfrizzcfrizz Posts: 12,644
    It seemed fairly balanced and accurate for regular users, and it was based on what their readers said they wanted in a receiver. Most of whom do want the most features, for as little money as possible. They want ease of set up and use that will get them through a few years until a whole new set of features come up that make it worth upgrading.

    Needless to say, the majority on this board (that are vocal) do not fit into this category.
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 15,045
    Yep2 wrote: »
    Its ..."You Guys".
    Electronics major with a English minor Mark?

    Biology and German -- could you tell?

    ;)
    "Some amps run on self bias, some amps run on fixed bias. But his amps run on confirmation bias." -- seen on audioasylum

  • Yep2Yep2 Posts: 778
    edited October 21
    Depends on what language you speak evidently.
    PC or Hillbilly.
    Speak the latter, FLUENTLY.
    Learning to speak the former, thanks to this forum.
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 16,475
    cfrizz wrote: »
    It seemed fairly balanced and accurate for regular users, and it was based on what their readers said they wanted in a receiver. Most of whom do want the most features, for as little money as possible. They want ease of set up and use that will get them through a few years until a whole new set of features come up that make it worth upgrading.

    Needless to say, the majority on this board (that are vocal) do not fit into this category.

    I agree Cathy. I have been forced to rethink my entire approach to this hobby because of what I learned while testing CD players.
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 15,045
    cfrizz wrote: »
    It seemed fairly balanced and accurate for regular users, and it was based on what their readers said they wanted in a receiver. Most of whom do want the most features, for as little money as possible. They want ease of set up and use that will get them through a few years until a whole new set of features come up that make it worth upgrading.

    Needless to say, the majority on this board (that are vocal) do not fit into this category.

    I agree Cathy. I have been forced to rethink my entire approach to this hobby because of what I learned while testing CD players.

    This is a very interesting comment (in all seriousness). Have you posted your musings on what you've learned while testing CD players here someplace? If so, can you post a link? If not -- I'd encourage you to start a thread.

    ... and my apologies if you have discussed this and I simply missed it (or forgot)!
    "Some amps run on self bias, some amps run on fixed bias. But his amps run on confirmation bias." -- seen on audioasylum

  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 14,810
    ^

    @mhardy6647 I will sum it up quick for you Doc, cause you got to get to the dump to save more vintage gear...

    He's going to go digital with either a HTPC or a NAS paired with a good DAC, which he already bought (PS Audio PerfectWave) :smile:
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 15,045
    edited October 23
    but -- but -- CDs are digital! :)

    I presume you mean he's going "hi-res", then?

    No dump here, sadly :/

    Thanks!
    "Some amps run on self bias, some amps run on fixed bias. But his amps run on confirmation bias." -- seen on audioasylum

  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 13,519
    Do not put a PC in the mix John. Get a streamer.
    audiothesis.com/

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  • I should post my speaker cable review. I've spent literally dozens of minutes comparing left and right speaker cables. I find it takes a well trained ear to discern the differences, but I have it NAILED. The other ear is of course not so well trained so I've got that going for me.
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  • Tony MTony M Posts: 3,281
    I've only used 3 types of wire going to my speakers and I will say, 1 and 2 sound alike. #3 definitely sounded BRIGHTER than the other 2. It was a lot thicker also.

    Now interconnecting cables HAVE to have an impact on sound if my wire did. I have yet to do a comparison test on interconnects but from what I have read on this forum, IT MATTERS. We can take advice from those who have gone before us. If we can't afford to buy expensive cables or wire, then we will never know what we're missing, will we.
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies . I am glad to be a part of a select group that tries to take our auditory and visual senses to a higher level: we EXPERIENCE them.... GOT SDA?... Got TFM ?
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