Legacy Focus 20/20 and Butler 2250 amp

Having taking note of Rick 88's troubles, and seeing I'm pretty much in the same boat, I should really sell some stuff to catch up on the bills that keep rolling in from Hospital/doctors.

So...I always said the Legacy Focus 20/20's were never leaving.....certainly not because of sound quality, but times change and life throws ya curve balls and I could use the coinage to pay down some bills I'll rate them and 8/10, one small scratch at the bottom of one speaker not noticeable unless your right on top of it. Clean, no other scratches, no water marks, taken care of since day one. Have original boxes too. You'd be hard pressed to get more speaker for the coin. Reviews are everywhere, put your google fingers to work. Grills are pristine also. Ribbon mahogany....which was like a 500 buck extra at the time. Like to get 1800 for them, pretty firm on that.

Butler 2250 amp, a hybrid design with 6sn7gt's in it, not rollable as they are soldered in, should last a lifetime though because of the design. Also pristine, no big scratches and clean faceplate. Quiet as a church mouse, 250 watts per at 8 ohm, 400 at 4. Also many reviews and 6 moons has a nice one more in depth. Like to get 1100 for the amp, was over 3g's new. Might have original box, not sure yet.

Don't want to ship either, so local Chicago dudes. I'll drive up to 2 hours though or meet someone half way. Pics will be forthcoming.

....AND BEFORE YOU ASK, NO, I'm not selling the dac, cables or Joule pre....man can not live on bread alone. ;) Buy them both together, and I'll give a Polkie a price of 2600, you will not beat that for these speakers and that amp anywhere, seriously. Plus they go together well. Questions are welcome, putz's aren't, I have no problems with demo's if one should want one. I'll throw up pics asap.
legacy Focus 20/20
Butler tdb 2250
Cary Xciter dac
Joule LA-100
Pioneer BDP 320
Sony 4k 55 850c
FX 500 surround
Acoustic zen Satori SC's
Pioneer elite vsx21
Sonos-Cullen mod.
Audio Metallurgy GA-0 digital
PS Audio Quintet
Analysis Plus crystal ovals
Acoustic zen Matrix 2's IC
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  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 14,900
    Tony..... can I trade you a kidney and partial liver for the combo?

    Somebody or Somebodies are getting quite a deal....
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  • GlennDogGlennDog Posts: 1,251
    Sales for these reasons are a bummer . . .
    Based on your past comments, I might be "innarested" in the Butler. How far are you from 46540
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  • NotaSuvNotaSuv Posts: 2,415
    Have heard Bulter amps and that is a fantastic sweet sounding piece with tons of power....this shouldn't last long....very nice
    out of driving range for me but those speakers are no slouch either...
  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 1,541
    PM sent
    Main System:
    Joule-Electra LA 100 MKIII
    Pass Labs Aleph 30, McCormack DNA-125, Parasound A21
    Marantz SA-14S1
    Usher CP-6311/Tyler Acoustics Taylo Reference Monitor, LSA-1
    Dual SVS SB2000
    Wireworld Equinox 7 bi-wire, Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 IC

    Secondary Rig:
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    Marsh a200s, Audio Elecrtonics by Cary Hercules
    Pioneer Elite DV-45a, Denon DVD-2910
    Klipsch Epic CF-1, Vandersteen 3CE sig
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  • Yep2Yep2 Posts: 790
    edited October 11
    Hate to hear it Anthony.
    Hope things look up.
    Wish you could hang on to those 20/20's!
    Excellent foundation for a future re-build.
    Someone smarter than me once said, "if you get tied to material objects, you loose your creativity".
    GLWYS!
  • hochpt21hochpt21 Posts: 4,894
    This FS thread actually startled me a bit Tony. Hope things are going well, and will end up well. Those speakers and amp look unbelievable and if I hadn't just bought my GoldenEars they would be hard to pass up for sure.

    Hopefully, you are leaving yourself with at least something good to dance to the songs of life with!
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  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 1,541
    Let me add that I'm also sad to hear that you're going through these issues.
    Main System:
    Joule-Electra LA 100 MKIII
    Pass Labs Aleph 30, McCormack DNA-125, Parasound A21
    Marantz SA-14S1
    Usher CP-6311/Tyler Acoustics Taylo Reference Monitor, LSA-1
    Dual SVS SB2000
    Wireworld Equinox 7 bi-wire, Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 IC

    Secondary Rig:
    Parasound P5, Audio Electronics by Cary Constellation
    Marsh a200s, Audio Elecrtonics by Cary Hercules
    Pioneer Elite DV-45a, Denon DVD-2910
    Klipsch Epic CF-1, Vandersteen 3CE sig
    Analysus Plus Oval

  • oldrockeroldrocker Posts: 1,631
    Sorry for the medical issues rearing it's ugly head on you.

    GLWTS & get better!!!
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 13,607
    Do you have speakers in the interim?
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  • halohalo Posts: 3,681
    You are a heckofagoodfella Tony. I hope things start looking up for you again very soon.
  • daddyjtdaddyjt Posts: 488
    Man.... as a fellow 20/20 owner, I feel your pain. I sincerely hope things turn you way soon brother. You and about 2 other people are the only reason I stuck it out here a while back (Glad I did, BTW!)

    I'm also glad you are not willing to ship the Butler, or you would have boxed it up by now, and sent it to SLC... :wink:
    Too much stuff to keep track of.

    Currently enjoying: Legacy Focus 20/20, McCormack DNA 225, Bill D C1, Oppo 105
  • mikeyb128mikeyb128 Posts: 2,494
    bummer man. Hope all is well, I've lusted after the 20/20's for years. I hope you have some back up gear in a closet to tie you over.
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    Theater:
    Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables.

  • tonybtonyb Posts: 27,761
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    legacy Focus 20/20
    Butler tdb 2250
    Cary Xciter dac
    Joule LA-100
    Pioneer BDP 320
    Sony 4k 55 850c
    FX 500 surround
    Acoustic zen Satori SC's
    Pioneer elite vsx21
    Sonos-Cullen mod.
    Audio Metallurgy GA-0 digital
    PS Audio Quintet
    Analysis Plus crystal ovals
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2's IC
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 27,761
    edited October 12
    Camera on the phone isn't all that great and lighting is somewhat dim. Amp pic shows shadows on the front, it is clean and clear. 3rd pic I tried to get a close up of the one and only scratch, like I said, not noticeable unless your ontop of it. That's a piece of dog hair on the right of the scratch that wanted 10 seconds of fame. Didn't pull the amp out of the rack, I'm still using it and it's a pain in the arse to move it out and back in.

    You'd be hard pressed to find these speakers in this condition, at this price, never abused. They are sitting with the factory spikes on them. I've personally never found their limits, they play clean and clear no matter how hard you push them. Feed them good power with decent cables and upstream electronics and you'll be rewarded. They play any genre of music well and would be tough to beat as a HT speaker too. Those with one system handling both HT/music, this is the speaker for you. Probably should have taken a pic of the back too, there's another 12 in. passive in the back for a total of 3-12 in. woofers. Yeah, they can pump it out.

    Also, for sheets and giggles, I don't do paypal, cash is preferred, check if I know you.
    Post edited by tonyb on
    legacy Focus 20/20
    Butler tdb 2250
    Cary Xciter dac
    Joule LA-100
    Pioneer BDP 320
    Sony 4k 55 850c
    FX 500 surround
    Acoustic zen Satori SC's
    Pioneer elite vsx21
    Sonos-Cullen mod.
    Audio Metallurgy GA-0 digital
    PS Audio Quintet
    Analysis Plus crystal ovals
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2's IC
  • DabutcherDabutcher Posts: 1,363
    Good luck with your health. Awesome speakers at a no brainer price. These would definitely be some end gamers for me. GLWTS. Peace. D
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  • kevhed72kevhed72 Posts: 2,922
    Good luck Tony. Damn there is a lot of nice stuff for sale on the forum right now!!
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 3,416
    If you were closer... Those speakers....

    I hope you get those bills off your back.


    Most people just listen to music and watch movies . I am glad to be a part of a select group that tries to take our auditory and visual senses to a higher level: we EXPERIENCE them.... GOT SDA?... Got TFM ?
  • halohalo Posts: 3,681
    If I had ca$h to spare, I'd love to give these a spin. @schwarcw has a pair of these IIRC.
  • tratlifftratliff Posts: 518
    Sorry to hear about this Tony. Good luck with the sale and hope things start to get better for you.
    2 Channel
    Legacy Focus SE, McIntosh C50, McIntosh MC601's, VPI Prime w/SoundSmith Zephyr MIMC, Parasound Halo JC3, Marantz SA-14s1, Oppo BDP-105, Furman Elite 15PFi, Douglas Connection Alpha Interconnects, Douglas Connection Alpha Speaker Cables, Pangea Power Cables

    Theater
    Yamaha RX-Z9, Legacy Focus SE (same as 2 Channel system), Def Tech C/L/R 2500, Def Tech BP-2X, Def Tech Pro-Monitors, Sharp Aquos 70"

    Living Room
    Yamaha YSP-4100 digital sound projector, Sharp Aquos 60"

    Office
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  • voltzvoltz Posts: 4,681
    Sorry to hear this Tony, You and the Legacy & Butlers have been a cool pairing brother! Like a nicely age wine and some bread sticks.

    We do what we have to do like Rick! but it still sucks
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  • MrBuhlMrBuhl Posts: 1,926
    hurts me to hear it - I hope all turns out well. These have been on my list for a long time, but funds, location, & space to breathe them just aren't in the cards. I wish they were, I'm sure these are flawless and that's a fantastic deal!
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  • Toolfan66Toolfan66 Posts: 13,369
    edited October 12
    If there was a way to get the speakers to CO... I would love to have them and give them a shot..
    Death Grip...
  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 1,541
    Only about 15 hours out I-80...
    Main System:
    Joule-Electra LA 100 MKIII
    Pass Labs Aleph 30, McCormack DNA-125, Parasound A21
    Marantz SA-14S1
    Usher CP-6311/Tyler Acoustics Taylo Reference Monitor, LSA-1
    Dual SVS SB2000
    Wireworld Equinox 7 bi-wire, Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 IC

    Secondary Rig:
    Parasound P5, Audio Electronics by Cary Constellation
    Marsh a200s, Audio Elecrtonics by Cary Hercules
    Pioneer Elite DV-45a, Denon DVD-2910
    Klipsch Epic CF-1, Vandersteen 3CE sig
    Analysus Plus Oval

  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 8,435
    edited October 12
    Lotta bada bing for the payola here guys, less than a $6.00lb for the speakers

    Best wishes for you and the misses Tony
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures, Simaudio 780D DAC
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
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    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers
  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 1,541
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    Lotta bada bing for the payola here guys, less than a $6.00lb for the speakers

    Best wishes for you and the misses Tony

    You can't even buy good beef for that price.
    Main System:
    Joule-Electra LA 100 MKIII
    Pass Labs Aleph 30, McCormack DNA-125, Parasound A21
    Marantz SA-14S1
    Usher CP-6311/Tyler Acoustics Taylo Reference Monitor, LSA-1
    Dual SVS SB2000
    Wireworld Equinox 7 bi-wire, Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 IC

    Secondary Rig:
    Parasound P5, Audio Electronics by Cary Constellation
    Marsh a200s, Audio Elecrtonics by Cary Hercules
    Pioneer Elite DV-45a, Denon DVD-2910
    Klipsch Epic CF-1, Vandersteen 3CE sig
    Analysus Plus Oval

  • lightman1lightman1 Posts: 8,680
    For you Tony....$266....
  • westmassguywestmassguy Posts: 5,792
    This sucks, Sorry to hear Tony. Hope all works out for you.
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 27,761
    I'm kinda surprised no takers on both at the combined price. Figured I priced it low enough to move fairly quick. Kerry has interest in the amp right now. Was hoping for the speaks to sell first, because without the amp it would be hard to demo the speaks for someone.

    Also if the speaks don't sell and I move the amp, can't listen to them myself and they'll just be collecting dust.

    Thanks for the well wishes gents, just one of those things in the roller coaster of life. One day your up, then down, then up again.....you know how it goes.
    legacy Focus 20/20
    Butler tdb 2250
    Cary Xciter dac
    Joule LA-100
    Pioneer BDP 320
    Sony 4k 55 850c
    FX 500 surround
    Acoustic zen Satori SC's
    Pioneer elite vsx21
    Sonos-Cullen mod.
    Audio Metallurgy GA-0 digital
    PS Audio Quintet
    Analysis Plus crystal ovals
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2's IC
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 14,900
    @kharp1: If you end up buying the amp, but would like some help carting it back to KY, I will be in Chicago on Oct 21st if it would help for me to mule the amp from Chicago to Indy for you Kerry.

    Assuming @TonyB is ok with that.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • cfrizzcfrizz Posts: 12,670
    I'm sorry you have to sell your gear Tony, I hope all will be well again soon.
    Sunfire TGP III PrePro, Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature 405wpc 5 ch. Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony Bravia KDL-40R510C TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Boston VR-920 Center Channel, SVS NSD-12 SB12 Subwoofer, Polk DSW 400 Subwoofer, Polk FXi-3 Surround Speakers
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