Surround with vintage Polks

I realize this topic has probably been beaten to death, but my topic may be a little unique. My system uses a pair of older Polk SDA monitors up front and I have been attempting to timbre match my surrounds. I was able after a long period of searching to locate a pair of AB700's from Polk. These have the same drivers as the older SDA's. I think I would like to replace my rear surrounds with similar AB models but I am less than optimistic about my prospects. Is there an equivalent model that isn't as difficult to find?
Polk SDA SRS 1.2
Yamaha M-65 (2x, bi-amped)
Pioneer Elite SC-99
Polk CS400 center
Polk MC-60 4x Atmos
Polk AB700 side surround
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  • Hmmmm. Must be in the wrong forum!
    Polk SDA SRS 1.2
    Yamaha M-65 (2x, bi-amped)
    Pioneer Elite SC-99
    Polk CS400 center
    Polk MC-60 4x Atmos
    Polk AB700 side surround
  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 714
    Not seeing how SDAs and ABs are the same drivers... But if you want to match the SDA sound for the rears, look for monitor 4s or 5s or 5JRs. Obviously none of those mount into the wall like the ABs.
  • The ab700 s have the same midranges as my SRS 1.2's but the tweeters are SL1000's. Difficult to find. Ideally I'd like to get another set of these or AB800's. Barring that, something that sounds similar and mounts in the wall would be cool.
    Polk SDA SRS 1.2
    Yamaha M-65 (2x, bi-amped)
    Pioneer Elite SC-99
    Polk CS400 center
    Polk MC-60 4x Atmos
    Polk AB700 side surround
  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 714
    Are you talking about the SDA SRTs? Because standard SDAs run 65xx series drivers, ABs do not. IIRC they are a 7000 series driver.
    Maybe a picture of what you currently have would dispel the confusion.
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 13,519
    The AB have the same family of drivers in them as the SDA and original Monitor line.
    audiothesis.com/

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  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 714
    Really Skip? All the pics I've found of the ABs have different baskets than the monitor series...
    Please educate me.
  • TNTsTunesTNTsTunes Posts: 438
    "Make a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Light
    a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."

  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 16,475
    FestYboy wrote: »
    Really Skip? All the pics I've found of the ABs have different baskets than the monitor series...
    Please educate me.
    I run ab700 and ab800 in my surround locations. Yes, the do use the same doped paper cones as the SDA line. The tweets can be updated to The RDO-194. I believe there may be a TL mod for them as well, but could be wrong on that...
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono twin chassis phono preamplifier, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Stradivari v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X1 two channel preamplifier Signed by Poppa himself, Pioneer PDD 9MkII SACD Player, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo BDP-95 Bluray, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds

  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 714
    TNTsTunes wrote: »

    Ok that's different then the pics I swap from a Google search. That explains quite a bit.
  • westmassguywestmassguy Posts: 5,767
    You can also use a Monitor 5jr or Monitor 4.6.
    I use 3 pairs of 4.6s, and 1 pair 5jrs in as bi-poles.
    Home Theater/2 Channel:
    Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
    Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
    Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
    Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
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    Interconnect: Furez 10/2 with SpeakONs
    ICs: Custom Furez by Douglas Connections
    Den:
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    Carver CT-3 Pre, Carver PM-600

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  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 714
    ^ that's what I suggested too (3rd post)
    Great minds think alike? @westmassguy
  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 714
    Well today I got an education on AB series speakers... Turns out the owner of a fastsigns that I contract with was one of the designers of the AB series speakers... And he had a pair installed in the shop that I was able to get a close look at.
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 3,664
    FestYboy wrote: »
    Well today I got an education on AB series speakers... Turns out the owner of a fastsigns that I contract with was one of the designers of the AB series speakers... And he had a pair installed in the shop that I was able to get a close look at.

    so??? whadja learn???
    HT Rig:
    Yamaha RX-A1010; Parasound HCA-1000a; Arcam rDac; Mains: PSB Imagine Mini + MartinLogan Dynamo (original) sub; Center - Def Tech Procenter 1000; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - SVS PB10-ISD; Sony BDP-S390, FireTV gen 2

    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Audiosource Amp Two, Dynaudio Emit 10, NHT Super One CI, ACI Titan subwoofer, FireTV, Arcam rDac; Bryson BPD-1
  • So sorry, folks. I was out of touch a few days. THAT IS A PICTURE OF MY SPEAKERS! Well done. I need a couple more like that.
    Polk SDA SRS 1.2
    Yamaha M-65 (2x, bi-amped)
    Pioneer Elite SC-99
    Polk CS400 center
    Polk MC-60 4x Atmos
    Polk AB700 side surround
  • what I'm hoping to do is either find AB700's, 800's or 900's. Barring that, I'm looking for recommendations for similar sounding rear surrounds.
    Polk SDA SRS 1.2
    Yamaha M-65 (2x, bi-amped)
    Pioneer Elite SC-99
    Polk CS400 center
    Polk MC-60 4x Atmos
    Polk AB700 side surround
  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 714
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    FestYboy wrote: »
    Well today I got an education on AB series speakers... Turns out the owner of a fastsigns that I contract with was one of the designers of the AB series speakers... And he had a pair installed in the shop that I was able to get a close look at.

    so??? whadja learn???

    Well, if I understand correctly, there are 2 generations of AB series speakers... The early ones having the 65xx MWs with SL2k tweets, and the later having the poly-mica cones and tweets from the S series, and there being 2 different bezel plates to accommodate.

    Also I learned that there was an SDA varient that never made production at the behest of Mr Polk himself.

    I find it odd that Polk hasn't kept up with the very thing that put it on the map so to speak (SDA technology).
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 16,475
    Take a look at the RTA line, specifically the 8t or 11t. They also use the same drivers, but they are floor standers. I found that this type of speaker sounds amazing in the surround role.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono twin chassis phono preamplifier, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Stradivari v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X1 two channel preamplifier Signed by Poppa himself, Pioneer PDD 9MkII SACD Player, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo BDP-95 Bluray, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds

  • the end goal is to have timbre matched speakers that fit in the wall. I have an old set of SDA-1's which I also purchased in the mid 80's. They would be great as surround speakers but are too friggin huge. Spousal disapproval, bigly. I really need to go in wall with the rear surrounds.

    Maybe for the rear surrounds I get a third set of MC60's to match my four Atmos speakers? Thoughts?
    Polk SDA SRS 1.2
    Yamaha M-65 (2x, bi-amped)
    Pioneer Elite SC-99
    Polk CS400 center
    Polk MC-60 4x Atmos
    Polk AB700 side surround
  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 714
    I just came across some ABs (single MW) in my area for what I would consider cheap $10 x 4, if you're still looking for some. I'd be happy to grab them for you and ship them out. I'm waiting for verification that they are still available, and if they are, I'll pull the trigger and wait for your reply.
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 16,475
    I have an extra pair of AB 700..
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono twin chassis phono preamplifier, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Stradivari v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X1 two channel preamplifier Signed by Poppa himself, Pioneer PDD 9MkII SACD Player, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo BDP-95 Bluray, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds

  • Gentlemen! You are awesome! If you can tell me what the AB models are I may be interested. Otherwise I would love to make a deal for Nooshins AB700's.
    Polk SDA SRS 1.2
    Yamaha M-65 (2x, bi-amped)
    Pioneer Elite SC-99
    Polk CS400 center
    Polk MC-60 4x Atmos
    Polk AB700 side surround
  • TNTsTunesTNTsTunes Posts: 438
    FestYboy wrote: »
    I just came across some ABs (single MW) in my area for what I would consider cheap $10 x 4, if you're still looking for some. I'd be happy to grab them for you and ship them out. I'm waiting for verification that they are still available, and if they are, I'll pull the trigger and wait for your reply.

    I'm game for some if he's not.

    "Make a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Light
    a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."

  • vcwatkinsvcwatkins Posts: 1,606
    I have a pair of AB700's in the den ceiling. Originally ('95ish) used as surrounds with DefTech BP-2000 fronts. Sounded very good. Currently used as rears with SRS1's as fronts and the BP2000's as surrounds/subs. Sounds great to me, but you can tell I'm of the opinion the timbre matching outside of the front three is not critical.
    Den: Rega RP6 (mods) * AT33PTGII * Jolida jd9 (mods) * Roon * Sonore Ultra Rendu (LPS-1) * Lush USB * Chord QuteEX (Pardo) * Joule-Electra LA-100 iii * Sunfire Sig II * PSAudio p3 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2 (mods)
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  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 714
    They should be 700s as well, I'll find out today for sure.
  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 714
    Picked them up, they have MW6512 drivers.
  • FestYboy wrote: »
    Picked them up, they have MW6512 drivers.

    I'm in. How can I get these from you?
    Polk SDA SRS 1.2
    Yamaha M-65 (2x, bi-amped)
    Pioneer Elite SC-99
    Polk CS400 center
    Polk MC-60 4x Atmos
    Polk AB700 side surround
  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 714
    I'm in Lititz PA, so I can ship, or if you're close...
  • I am in Minnesota. Shipping would be best
    Polk SDA SRS 1.2
    Yamaha M-65 (2x, bi-amped)
    Pioneer Elite SC-99
    Polk CS400 center
    Polk MC-60 4x Atmos
    Polk AB700 side surround
  • Any good way I can pay you and the shipping?
    Polk SDA SRS 1.2
    Yamaha M-65 (2x, bi-amped)
    Pioneer Elite SC-99
    Polk CS400 center
    Polk MC-60 4x Atmos
    Polk AB700 side surround
  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 714
    Yessir, I'll pm you my PayPal. How many unit do you want? I'll likely ship USPS in the prepay boxes after I clean them up a bit.
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