RMAF 2017 - October 6 - 8

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  • SCompRacerSCompRacer Posts: 6,570
    edited October 9
    GlennDog wrote: »
    I'm certain Jim Salk had a room . . . Any comments on the Salk Sound?

    He just had some Song 3's set up that sound good with [I can't recall who's] gear. The pricey Exotica 3's were just on display. Usually he shares a room/equipment with Van Alstine.
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  • schwarcwschwarcw Posts: 7,118
    edited October 9
    D2Dan and I sat in the Salk room for several songs while Rich was BSing to Jim and his wife. D2Dan and I both thought the Salk sound was very good and a nice size footprint for a typical living space.

    A lot of the speakers other speaker brands as Pittdog noted are way to much money but also they are big and need space to breath. The Wilson Alexis II weighs a mere 250+ pounds each. Who has room for them? But damn! They sound great! But for $75K or whatever, I will never own them. I loved hearing them with the Nagra equipment. Easily my favorite room at the show.
    Carl

  • halenhalen Posts: 194
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    GlennDog wrote: »
    I'm certain Jim Salk had a room . . . Any comments on the Salk Sound?

    IIRC there was at least one set playing but i thought i seen 2 pairs
    My one take away was this one room had these bookies that had an impressive huge deep sound stage with very nice low end. I'm sorry i do not remember the speakers. After about 50+ rooms it all runs together.
    Remember that most rooms are packed tight and folks are trying to come and go. I didn't grab every piece of literature that was available. I like travelling lite. Some rooms it was very hard to get to the seats or get the perfect seat without folks to the left and the right sucking up your sound stage. Although this was my first I agree with scompracer that next time there will be no wasting as much time as i did in rooms that are 8-10yrs of wages to acquire.
    I sure was impressed with the Dan D'Agostino's amplifier that is art pure and simple.

    This tells me they had the mids all wrong.if all you noticed was the bottom end. Catering to the masses I take?

    Cheers.
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 7,828
    halen wrote: »
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    GlennDog wrote: »
    I'm certain Jim Salk had a room . . . Any comments on the Salk Sound?

    IIRC there was at least one set playing but i thought i seen 2 pairs
    My one take away was this one room had these bookies that had an impressive huge deep sound stage with very nice low end. I'm sorry i do not remember the speakers. After about 50+ rooms it all runs together.
    Remember that most rooms are packed tight and folks are trying to come and go. I didn't grab every piece of literature that was available. I like travelling lite. Some rooms it was very hard to get to the seats or get the perfect seat without folks to the left and the right sucking up your sound stage. Although this was my first I agree with scompracer that next time there will be no wasting as much time as i did in rooms that are 8-10yrs of wages to acquire.
    I sure was impressed with the Dan D'Agostino's amplifier that is art pure and simple.

    This tells me they had the mids all wrong.if all you noticed was the bottom end. Catering to the masses I take?

    Cheers.

    Absolutely not what I'm saying is the size of the speakers they played like large floor standers and had the low end of a larger floor stander. They had a huge presence not something you normally get from small 2 way bookies. Wide deep sound stage.
  • SCompRacerSCompRacer Posts: 6,570
    edited October 9
    schwarcw wrote: »
    D2Dan and I sat in the Salk room for several songs while Rich was BSing to Jim and his wife. D2Dan and I both thought the Salk sound was very good and a nice size footprint for a typical living space.

    I'm familiar with the Song 3's so I was trying to beat him down on the demo Exotica 3's......
    schwarcw wrote: »
    The Wilson Alexis II....... They sound great! But for $75K or whatever, I will never own them. I loved hearing them with the Nagra equipment. Easily my favorite room at the show.

    The Ka-Ching room! And some Audio Research gear out of my reach.

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    Make yourself necessary to someone. Ralph Waldo Emerson

    Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ & Pro 11+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS* Twisted Pear Buffalo III Dual Mono ESS Sabre32 DAC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 *

  • halenhalen Posts: 194
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    halen wrote: »
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    GlennDog wrote: »
    I'm certain Jim Salk had a room . . . Any comments on the Salk Sound?

    IIRC there was at least one set playing but i thought i seen 2 pairs
    My one take away was this one room had these bookies that had an impressive huge deep sound stage with very nice low end. I'm sorry i do not remember the speakers. After about 50+ rooms it all runs together.
    Remember that most rooms are packed tight and folks are trying to come and go. I didn't grab every piece of literature that was available. I like travelling lite. Some rooms it was very hard to get to the seats or get the perfect seat without folks to the left and the right sucking up your sound stage. Although this was my first I agree with scompracer that next time there will be no wasting as much time as i did in rooms that are 8-10yrs of wages to acquire.
    I sure was impressed with the Dan D'Agostino's amplifier that is art pure and simple.

    This tells me they had the mids all wrong.if all you noticed was the bottom end. Catering to the masses I take?

    Cheers.

    Absolutely not what I'm saying is the size of the speakers they played like large floor standers and had the low end of a larger floor stander. They had a huge presence not something you normally get from small 2 way bookies. Wide deep sound stage.

    Oh man. Now I am really intrigued, since I have a weakness for bookies. Thanks for the review!
  • GlennDogGlennDog Posts: 1,240
    SCompRacer wrote: »
    GlennDog wrote: »
    I'm certain Jim Salk had a room . . . Any comments on the Salk Sound?

    He just had some Song 3's set up that sound good with [I can't recall who's] gear. The pricey Exotica 3's were just on display. Usually he shares a room/equipment with Van Alstine.

    I'm familiar with the Song 3's, so I was trying to beat him down on the demo Exotica 3's.

    You’re right, sir. VA & Salk play well together. Lately, iirc, Jim has been with working with Schiit

    If you can agree on a price for the E3s, drag your S8s back here and I may take them off your hands for you!!
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  • SCompRacerSCompRacer Posts: 6,570
    GlennDog wrote: »

    If you can agree on a price for the E3s, drag your S8s back here and I may take them off your hands for you!!

    Well, two things I can think of stop me. One is the E3 shines as a musical niche speaker where the SS8's are a better all around speaker. Even Jim agrees with that. I'm still all around with music genre. The second, 13K list price, maybe 12 for a demo, and I could only muster around 6K range used for mine.

    I haven't seen many SS8's pop up for sale at his AC forum. One fellow in St. Louis MO has been trying (since March 2017) to sell a pair of SS8's in cocobolo with a Salk C7 center in oak for $8800 (Sept '17 post). IMO he would have better success selling the center separate. The center lists at $2895.
    Make yourself necessary to someone. Ralph Waldo Emerson

    Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ & Pro 11+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS* Twisted Pear Buffalo III Dual Mono ESS Sabre32 DAC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 *

  • schwarcwschwarcw Posts: 7,118
    edited October 10
    Rich, I want the Wilsons!

    But I would need to buy a new house to put them in.
    Carl

  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 7,828
    schwarcw wrote: »
    Rich, I want the Wilsons!

    But I would need to buy a new house to put them in.

    Pocket change...
  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 8,339
    edited October 10
    I had a hit and miss with the original Alexia's at RMAF 2013

    Wilson had 2 rooms for the Alexia's. One room was matched up with Doshi Audio, and it sounded great.

    The other room was very disappointing matched up with VTL. Russman and I even went to private demo, and the system didn't have the synergy.

    Few months later Halen and I went to a dealer demo in Dallas which was paired up with Audio Research and that demo fell in the middle.

    Did you guys meat Deborah Wilson....???? She' super cool to hang out with
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  • SCompRacerSCompRacer Posts: 6,570
    edited October 10
    schwarcw wrote: »
    Rich, I want the Wilsons!

    Grams would say people in hell want ice water and don't get it, so.... :smiley:

    txcoastal1 wrote: »

    Did you guys meat Deborah Wilson....???? She' super cool to hang out with

    Was she there? Other than Anne Bisson, I only met pianist Robert Silverman. I love the piano. Didn't get a pic with him.

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  • schwarcwschwarcw Posts: 7,118
    I have had mixed experiences with Wilsons also. However the two rooms this year were set up pretty well. Besides the Nagra room I think the other room had their Wilsons powered by Translucent mono blocks IIRC. Rich might have a picture? :*
    Carl

  • SCompRacerSCompRacer Posts: 6,570
    This room? I didn't take pics of poor sounding rooms.

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    Make yourself necessary to someone. Ralph Waldo Emerson

    Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ & Pro 11+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS* Twisted Pear Buffalo III Dual Mono ESS Sabre32 DAC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 *

  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 13,530
    SCompRacer wrote: »
    This room? I didn't take pics of poor sounding rooms.

    Uh oh. I didn't see you take pics of mine. :o

    Here are some more shots of my system:

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    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Dayens Ampino, Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
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  • SCompRacerSCompRacer Posts: 6,570
    edited October 11
    DSkip wrote: »

    Uh oh. I didn't see you take pics of mine. :o

    You missed it cause you was moving like Zhylaw in Riddick.... :)

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    Make yourself necessary to someone. Ralph Waldo Emerson

    Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ & Pro 11+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS* Twisted Pear Buffalo III Dual Mono ESS Sabre32 DAC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 *

  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 16,492
    SCompRacer wrote: »
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    What brand are these amps?
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono twin chassis phono preamplifier, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Stradivari v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X1 two channel preamplifier Signed by Poppa himself, Pioneer PDD 9MkII SACD Player, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo BDP-95 Bluray, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds

  • voltzvoltz Posts: 4,675
    2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge

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  • GlennDogGlennDog Posts: 1,240
    Curious minds want to know
    It would be nice if the pix had some description of the equipment that's in the pix... just say'n
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  • SCompRacerSCompRacer Posts: 6,570
    edited October 11
    voltz wrote: »

    He beat me to it.... AirTight ATM-3211.

    http://www.airtight-anm.com/components/atm3211.html
    Make yourself necessary to someone. Ralph Waldo Emerson

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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 7,828
    edited October 11
    DSkip wrote: »
    SCompRacer wrote: »
    This room? I didn't take pics of poor sounding rooms.

    Uh oh. I didn't see you take pics of mine. :o

    Here are some more shots of my system:

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    I'm telling ya Skip taller Ironwood plinths would of made ALL the difference.....

    <3 :p
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 16,492
    Is that granite on the tops of those amps, or am I still the only one nuts enough to do that?
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono twin chassis phono preamplifier, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Stradivari v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X1 two channel preamplifier Signed by Poppa himself, Pioneer PDD 9MkII SACD Player, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo BDP-95 Bluray, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds

  • halohalo Posts: 3,654
    schwarcw wrote: »
    I have had mixed experiences with Wilsons also. However the two rooms this year were set up pretty well. Besides the Nagra room I think the other room had their Wilsons powered by Translucent mono blocks IIRC. Rich might have a picture? :*

    I heard the Wilson Audio Alexandria's paired with D'Aagostino mega watt monsters at AXPONA 2016 and I was completely and totally unimpressed. YMMV.
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