Mustang any good in the twisties?

BlueFox
BlueFox Posts: 15,251
I am starting to research new cars to replace my 2005 Mazda 3 I bought in October 2004. Anyway, I am all over the place at this point. I have never owned a car with an automatic, and I am not sure if I want my last car to be an automatic. Right now I am thinking a new Mazda 3, BMW 3, BMW 4, and the Mustang. I can get a manual with those models.

On the other hand, I also am considering the Mazda CX-5, and Lexus NS for a slightly bigger vehicle, but with an automatic.

Since I can do a lot of mountain driving, good handling is a primary item. I know the Mustang can be fast in a straight line, but how is it on the twisties?
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,638
    My wife has a CX5 and loves it. I got a Mazda 6 and really enjoy it.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,704
    edited July 2017
    Bud, automatics are nothing like they were. Take a few for a test drive. Heck, F1 cars are basically automatic these days. One day even Nascar will catch up.
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  • mikeyb128
    mikeyb128 Posts: 2,885
    Direct shift gear boxes are essentially manuals transmissions, but drive like auto's, and they are awesome. Some of them loaded with launch control straight from the factory.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 32,922
    edited July 2017
    F1nut wrote: »
    Bud, automatics are nothing like they were. Take a few for a test drive. Heck, F1 cars are basically automatic these days. One day even Nascar will catch up.

    That is absolutely, technologically, true -- and I realize that not having to take the time to shift is valuable when milliseconds count (e.g., in racing). I also realize that some of the massively torque-y engines pretty much require automatics (manual clutches can't take the stress)... but, perhaps like Bluefox, I just plain don't like automatics.

    1) too darned complicated (and more so now than ever).
    2) too darned expensive to fix.
    3) too darned unreliable. They just don't seem to last more than 150k miles* or so (and they're essentially irreparable and must be replaced); heck, I am used to my clutches lasting at least that long!
    4) they take one whole dimension of driver interaction (coordination of the decision to shift, clutching and shifting) out of the "driving experience".

    Besides, a manual transmission in 2017 is probably the best anti-theft device extant! ;)

    Sorry for the tirade :/

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    * Although I was pleased, surprised, and surpressed that the CVT in Mrs. H's Escape hybrid was trouble-free for 246k miles! But CVTs have fallen out of fashion already; replaced by these eight and nine-speed AT monstrosities.
  • msg
    msg Posts: 9,306
    Bud, sounds like what you really need is a motorcycle B)

    In all seriousness, a high torque, rear wheel drive for mountain twisties sounds like a not so ideal situation. Then again, so does a motorcycle.

    A friend had another Mustang, 2013 model, though, so, older. I've always liked them but felt them a little brutish and cludgy in comparison to the imports, and the ergos don't suit me. Monsters though. Did seem sticky in aggressive driving, though, even though my buddy liked to break his loose.

    Seats will play a role in handling perception, right?

    Does BMW offer x-drive in the 4 series these days?
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  • quickr1
    quickr1 Posts: 414
    Have you considered the camaro with the 1le handling package? It is available on the v6 and 4 cylinder models. Along with the v8 model. From what I read even just the the normal SS version handles pretty well.
  • Legender
    Legender Posts: 478
    Not considering the mx-5?
    I've got the 2000 model and it has no problems in the turns.
    I'd upgrade to the new one, no questions asked.
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,471
    mhardy6647 wrote: »

    Besides, a manual transmission in 2017 is probably the best anti-theft device extant! ;)

    A WHOLE LOT OF TRUTH TO THIS STATEMENT!!

    My son wanted a manual Toyota and bought one. After three says of trying to teach him to drive it i let him go on his own. I was scared to death for him as he just wasn't getting it. A week later it was totaled. It was not his fault but still I was glad it was gone. I do not know why the younger generation seem to not be as acoordinated enough to grasp the concept.

    But you're correct Doc most would still be trying to steal the vehicle when the law showed up.

  • motorhead43026
    motorhead43026 Posts: 3,892
    What fun an American V8, rear wheel drive car with a standard transmission.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,722
    Can you fit in a Miata? If so don't discount that one, it's a true classical sports car
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  • jeremymarcinko
    jeremymarcinko Posts: 3,785
    edited July 2017
    As long as it's the current generation mustang with the independent suspension. Otherwise...An inexpensive sports car that handles well, I would look at the Subaru BRZ.
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,163
    edited July 2017
    The latest Mustangs handle great. Have for the last few years. I really like the V6/Manual combination, but unfortunately, once Ford came out with the Ecoboost, they really castrated the V6 offerings. You really can't get any options on the V6 model anymore. Can't get the 3.55 rear end, can't get the performance package with larger brakes, etc., can't get the Recaro seats... you get the picture.

    Also, 2017 will be the last year for the V6.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    Lots of good info here. Most likely this will be the last car I buy, so it has to last, and be fun. At least a little. :)
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  • trj
    trj Posts: 320
    edited July 2017
    Bluefox,
    A couple of questions:
    - You mention the mountains. Does that mean you are going to be driving in snow/ice?
    - Is it going to be your daily driver/only car?

    I ask, because most of the cars you mentioned are rwd and if you are looking at driving in the snow, then it might not be the best idea. I have had mazda 6 and bmw 3 series of the last 3 generations(first two were rwd the current one is awd). I did fine with rwd for about 12 years, but the current one is the last generation bmw awd coupe (e 92). New bmws and audis awds are rear wheel drive biased full time awd. BMWs have always been rwd biased, but audis were always fwd biased until recently (last generation). The newest audi A4 are again fwd based. The said quattro is fwd all the time and goes to awd only when required. Not good in my book.
    AWD are much better in getting traction than their rwd counter parts. I used to be really worried to take my previous bmw 3/5 series to mountains here in Colorado. Never got stuck, but there was an ever present fear of getting stuck in an uphill incline and not able to gain traction to move.
    After owning an quattro audi a4 and the x-drive 3 series, I dont think I will ever go back to rwd car as my only car. However, if it is my second car that can stay in garage for when it snows, rwd wins the choice every time.

    Caution, I will be the first one to tell you that bmw has lost its charm of being a good handling car. The best combination of responsive steering and comfort in any BMW I had was with the e39 (2003 530i series, rwd). The most fun 3 series to drive was e46(2001 325 ci coupe, rwd). I have owned 4 bmws in my lifetime and all have been the inline 6 engines. The current BMW 3 series I own is an e92( 2009 328i x-drive, awd). The steering response is as good as the e39 I owned, but there is understeer(typical of awd), and the suspension is a little too stiff for being stock (search for "pot hole explosion bmw"). I dont like the tubro charged 4 cylinder cars at all. The diesel like noise it makes just doesnt work for me. That was the reason we sold our audi A4 quattro. It checked every box, but just couldnt live with that ticking noise from the engine after owning Bmw inline 6 cylinder equipped cars for 12 years. Apparently all the 4 cylinder turbo cars make that noise. Oh the gift of direct injection.

    Plus, the new 3 series (F30) on rwd cars are electric steering, which is numb, almost prius like. Only x-drive cars come equipped with hydraulic steering, which I still consider gives you most feel of the road but then you loose the rwd nimbleness.

    Mustangs have gotten better, specially new ones are much better in the twisties I heard. And they are a lot cheaper than buying a new 3/4 series 340/440i (comparing the power levels of top trims). I will never buy a car that has less than 6 cylinders.

    SUVs are never in my radar, I feel they are just a big box on top of sedan chassis. Makes handling way worst and takes too much space for no reason. For that once a year home depot trip, I will rent a uhaul.
    Much better alternative are wagons. I and the wifey are looking at 3 series wagons and audi allroads. Its sad that audi stopped sending their A4/A6 avants of this generation here to the states. Another car that we really want to test drive/purchase is 4 series grand coupe. Its a toss up right now between the grand coupes (S5 sport back/440i xdrive GC/ A4 all road/ 3 series wagon).

    But there are two out of production cars that we are constantly looking for to purchase if a good one ever comes for sale. Those two are 6 series grand coupe and a 2010+ jaguar xk coupe. A good example never comes up for sale though. :neutral:

    Check out jaguar xe and xfs. They have gotten much better and can rival their german counterparts(3 and 5 series)/a4 and a6) in every way. They are equipped with the new 8 speed automatics which are miles ahead of those 4-5 speed autos we are used to.

    I grew up riding motor cycles and I would love to have a manual car. But with all the traffic I drive along, automatic is the way to go. The new ones are much better. Plus the new cars are not really built to last. They are disposables. So, if you are planning to keep the car for 150k miles(10 years driving 15k miles per year), the other parts of the car will break before the the transmission. So, not really a big worry for me.

    People will say a lot about european/german cars breaking down and paying out of the nose to repair anything. However, I had worst luck with honda and mazda. I have had one jaguar (S type), 4 bmws (three 3 series, one 5 series), one audi (A4 quattro), a maza 6, honda accord and mitsubishi eclipse. The one that needed least repair/maintenance was the 5 series.

    One advise I can give you is: Buy the car you want, you like and be prepared for out of warranty repair costs if you plan to keep it past warranty. I do a lot of research and there are definite must have lists when I go shopping. If the car doesnt come with everything I have in the list, I dont even test drive it. A car is a big expense, so why compromise? With the German cars, the mechanics will just quote you double the price just by looking at the badge. I work on my cars and I love working on them. Gives me assurance that the job is done right and I save money too :smile:

    Good luck with your search


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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,471
    DSkip wrote: »
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    mhardy6647 wrote: »

    Besides, a manual transmission in 2017 is probably the best anti-theft device extant! ;)

    A WHOLE LOT OF TRUTH TO THIS STATEMENT!!

    My son wanted a manual Toyota and bought one. After three says of trying to teach him to drive it i let him go on his own. I was scared to death for him as he just wasn't getting it. A week later it was totaled. It was not his fault but still I was glad it was gone. I do not know why the younger generation seem to not be as acoordinated enough to grasp the concept.

    But you're correct Doc most would still be trying to steal the vehicle when the law showed up.

    A lack of great teachers. o:)

    In all seriousness and no jab at you, I struggled with driving a stick after my mom taught me. After my dad saw me struggling days later, he got in and taught me a different way. I never struggled again and in short order was driving a stick well.

    HA HA I doubt that it was my teaching. I started driving large tractors and grain trucks at 13. Kids these days are not lucky enough to be able to do that. I'm sure he would of picked up on it with practice. He struggled with when to know when to downshift and starting at stops. When he got his second car that novelty of a stick was not there he wanted no part of it. I showed him if the RPM's were right there was no need for the clutch in up shifting as it would just fall into gear.
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,033
    I have been looking hard at the Jaguar XE to replace my 2004 XJ. The car handles like the F-type and performs better imho than the 3 series.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    When I say mountains I mean CA mountains in the spring, summer, fall. If I decide to try skiing again then I will go with the AWD CX-5, or NSX. I drive everyday in CA commute traffic, and a manual doesn't bother me. However, I once had knee surgery on my left knee, so I had to put the seat all the way back and stiff leg the clutch. The car jumped like a manual transmission beginner was at the wheel. LOL

    At this point I am bouncing around between a little luxury, or just practicality. The more I spend on a car then the less I can spend on the stereo. :)

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  • trj
    trj Posts: 320
    BlueFox wrote: »
    When I say mountains I mean CA mountains in the spring, summer, fall. If I decide to try skiing again then I will go with the AWD CX-5, or NSX. I drive everyday in CA commute traffic, and a manual doesn't bother me. However, I once had knee surgery on my left knee, so I had to put the seat all the way back and stiff leg the clutch. The car jumped like a manual transmission beginner was at the wheel. LOL

    At this point I am bouncing around between a little luxury, or just practicality. The more I spend on a car then the less I can spend on the stereo. :)

    Then you should definitely go with a rwd ragtop vert. :smile:
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,124
    I vote for the NSX :)
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  • jeremymarcinko
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    Really a CX-5 or a NSX, am I missing something here. What are we comparing again?
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    Really a CX-5 or a NSX, am I missing something here. What are we comparing again?

    Practicality versus luxury. Mazda doesn't have a luxury car division so they offer more in their models. The TOL AWD CX-5 is probably a better handling SUV, based on reviews, but doesn't have the extra touches, nor the name, that the NSX has. For $15K less than a NSX, I can live without the bling. However, both would be nice to have, so I have to keep my mind open for a year or two.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,124
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Really a CX-5 or a NSX, am I missing something here. What are we comparing again?

    Practicality versus luxury. Mazda doesn't have a luxury car division so they offer more in their models. The TOL AWD CX-5 is probably a better handling SUV, based on reviews, but doesn't have the extra touches, nor the name, that the NSX has. For $15K less than a NSX, I can live without the bling. However, both would be nice to have, so I have to keep my mind open for a year or two.

    Now you must be talking about the Lexus NX....Not the NSX

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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited July 2017
    Hey. What's one letter? Other than maybe $150K. LOL
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,042
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Hey. What's one letter? Other than maybe $150K. LOL

    A whole lot of fun.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,124
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Hey. What's one letter? Other than maybe $150K. LOL

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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,124
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Hey. What's one letter? Other than maybe $150K. LOL

    I that case, I would go with the Mazda, get her fully loaded, save the coin. This years new Mazda body style is really nice. May upgrade my wifes CX5
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  • jeremymarcinko
    jeremymarcinko Posts: 3,785
    Mazda CX-5 ...yawn.

    A Mini Cooper would be more fun.
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