The DEMON is coming...

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  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 8,875
    F1nut wrote: »
    The difference is the generations. Today we have baby boomers reliving their youth from the muscle car era. Millennials don't care about those things, heck a good percentage don't even drive, so to think there will be the demand for muscle cars 20 years from now doesn't make sense.

    Maybe put a 2018 Leaf in the garage for 20yrs????
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 38,796
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    The difference is the generations. Today we have baby boomers reliving their youth from the muscle car era. Millennials don't care about those things, heck a good percentage don't even drive, so to think there will be the demand for muscle cars 20 years from now doesn't make sense.

    Maybe put a 2018 Leaf in the garage for 20yrs????

    Ha, there ya go.
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  • Msabot1Msabot1 Posts: 1,938
    F1nut wrote: »
    The difference is the generations. Today we have baby boomers reliving their youth from the muscle car era. Millennials don't care about those things, heck a good percentage don't even drive, so to think there will be the demand for muscle cars 20 years from now doesn't make sense.

    The purchaser of that barn find was a 28 year old software engineer...not quite a boomer I don't think...My point being that back in the day,a very small percentage of buyers did it for investment purposes...and the car valued up due to what it is...People of all ages will shuck out the bucks for what they consider classic...
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 38,796
    Exceptions to everything I suppose.

    Still the Demon is a special car, congrats John.
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  • deronb1deronb1 Posts: 4,155
    Wow! Awesone! Enjoy the ride!
  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 2,311
    I would definitely​ have sex in that car.
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  • deronb1deronb1 Posts: 4,155
    Says you cant drive it when temp is under 15º F.
  • mrbigbluelightmrbigbluelight Posts: 7,368
    Just looking at the pic of that Demon, I'm having .... uhm ..... pleasant thoughts.

    Nice wheels, John. :)
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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 16,975
    I would definitely​ have sex in that car.

    You so fat, you couldn't have sex in a semi truck... >:) :D
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  • warrenwarren Posts: 563
    Good for you!!! My first one was a 57 Chevy rag top. 3 on the column, 2 quads, solid lifters, 3/4 cam. Second new, 59 Dodge D500 convert. Third, 60 Caddy Tahesian Red Convt. If I kept them cherry today still not worth one million, still wish I had them...
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  • Dennis GardnerDennis Gardner Posts: 4,727
    edited June 2017
    After what happened to the Ford GT after only 10 years, it is worth the try. That $150k car is hard to find for twice that much today and they had a hard time getting rid of some of them for 2 years at the start.
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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 16,975
    After what happened to the Ford GT after only 10 years, it is worth the try. That $150k car is hard to find for twice that much today and they had a hard time getting rid of some of them for 2 years at the start.

    My thoughts as well. I have seen the GT's touch a half a mil.
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  • It is a risk, but given the track record of other very low volume cars and the historic nature of this particular car, it is a risk worth taking. I already have an offer on the table at double my buy price...

    Double ? Take it.

  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 23,516
    All kidding aside, nice car........enjoy it.

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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 23,516
    edited June 2017
    The Ford GT was throw back to an icon, so it has that going for it and I suspect why it tends to garner so much green. Atleast that's a small part of the equation. The top dollar getters are trailer queens w/ almost no miles, still in plastic wrap.

    4038 GT's were produced between 2004-2006

    For the Demon to even come close to the status of the GT, it needs to sit and not get driven at all.

    H9
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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 16,975
    heiney9 wrote: »
    The Ford GT was throw back to an icon, so it has that going for it and I suspect why it tends to garner so much green. Atleast that's a small part of the equation. The top dollar getters are trailer queens w/ almost no miles, still in plastic wrap.

    For the Demon to even come close to the status of the GT, it needs to sit and not get driven at all.

    H9
    Agreed. It is 23 miles from where I work (and ordered my car), and it will make that trip on a flatbed tow truck. Too much risk of road debris to put it up on the freeway.
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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 8,835
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    The difference is the generations. Today we have baby boomers reliving their youth from the muscle car era. Millennials don't care about those things, heck a good percentage don't even drive, so to think there will be the demand for muscle cars 20 years from now doesn't make sense.

    Maybe put a 2018 Leaf in the garage for 20yrs????

    The EPA will mark your house a superfund site for decontamination.....
  • deronb1deronb1 Posts: 4,155
    For that price, they should deliver it to your home in a covered transport.
  • FTGVFTGV Posts: 3,538
    heiney9 wrote: »
    The Ford GT was throw back to an icon, so it has that going for it and I suspect why it tends to garner so much green. Atleast that's a small part of the equation. The top dollar getters are trailer queens w/ almost no miles, still in plastic wrap.

    4038 GT's were produced between 2004-2006

    For the Demon to even come close to the status of the GT, it needs to sit and not get driven at all.

    H9
    I love the new GT. Sure it departs much further from the look of the original but it is one nice little car.

  • Rick88Rick88 Posts: 12,685
    Congratulations John, awesome ride brother!! B)

    Can't wait to see some great pics...
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  • Dennis GardnerDennis Gardner Posts: 4,727
    edited June 2017
    I've watched the 30 year saga of the Buick GN twins here in NW OK come an end a couple months ago. I remember when 5 of them came off the truck at the same time in that little town of 1400 people. The dealer just hung on to two or them identical and consecutive serial numbers. Waited 30 years to cash in.
    autoblog.com/2017/04/07/1987-buick-grand-national-twin-barn-finds/

    No great investment here as I imagine he averaged 5% over that time.
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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 16,975
    edited June 2017
    Just ordered the personalized plate for the car...

    UWILLUZ... B)
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  • shawn474shawn474 Posts: 2,738
    Admittedly I am more of a truck person. But ever since the hellcat came out, I have wanted one. The dealer gouging is awful though. For them to be made at a relatively "affordable" price point at 65k was neat I thought. But when dealers started bidding processes and mark ups my dreams were dashed. And now the demon- a hellcat on steroids!!!! If I could afford one, damn the appreciation. Drive it like you stole it and have some fun. You only live once and can't take it with you!!!! Seeet ride John- ENJOY IT
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  • jeremymarcinkojeremymarcinko Posts: 2,863
    You going to pay the extra dough for the passenger seat? :D

    Awesome car...enjoy
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 28,369
    Nice John, be interesting when the little dude get's his license and steals Dads car keys one day. :)
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 16,116
    edited June 2017
    How's the insurance premium for one of these? ;)
    (I posted this originally, thought it was too snarky & deleted it -- but after reading through this thread decided it was only "appropriately snarky", so I apologize, sort of, for asking!)

    I've gotta say, given that there are plenty of modern consumer-grade automobiles (i.e., not just exotica) that cost $85k and up nowadays -- that doesn't seem like a bad investment. 85k isn't much money any more (less than 1 year's retirement spending for most folks in the US who can actually afford to retire, I reckon). It'd be sort of like putting $85k in a CD or a bond, with a fairly good potential return on investment (i.e., better than a CD or a bond!).

    I'd say keeping the pristine (stored and undriven) is the best (lowest risk) way to use it as an investment -- but there's certainly cost associated with that, too, that would need to be netted out of the investment return.

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  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 2,311
    edited June 2017
    tonyb wrote: »
    Nice John, be interesting when the little dude get's his license and steals Dads car keys one day. :)

    Or he finds a sharp object and carves "I love Dad" in paint. That is what my son did @ the age of 5 "I love Mom" on his Mom's car with a rock.

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  • Screw the investment aspect. Drive it like you stole it ! The worst thing you can do to a car is not drive it.
  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 2,311
    If you want a tangible investment buy property or gold, or both. Land is the best investment ever.
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  • nbrowsernbrowser Posts: 7,383
    I've watched the 30 year saga of the Buick GN twins here in NW OK come an end a couple months ago. I remember when 5 of them came off the truck at the same time in that little town of 1400 people. The dealer just hung on to two or them identical and consecutive serial numbers. Waited 30 years to cash in.
    autoblog.com/2017/04/07/1987-buick-grand-national-twin-barn-finds/

    No great investment here as I imagine he averaged 5% over that time.

    Interesting article, had they been '87 GNX models..oh yeah those would commend the money...but base-ish Grand Nationals not from '87...might as well call it a Regal Turbo.
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