The DEMON is coming...

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  • Been thinking about this car too much and noticed something. I've read it comes 315/40-18 Nitro drag radials (plus skinnies in the drag pack. Are they installing the big sticky fronts so owners will have extras after going through the rears? Or maybe the big front tires for double duty on road courses? If the suspension is set up for drag racing though it's not going to be much fun open tracking or street driving. Not enough rebound valving and too much compression valving in front to drive drive on the street. And the opposite in rear. Valved for weight transfer to the rear for traction for wheelies and better 60' times. Change the shocks and struts to more conventual settings and it might turn into a strong track day car and better/safer street car.
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 16,943
    That is not what the car is built for. I bought a drag racer that I can drive on the street. You are free to go buy one of your very own and do anything you want to it.
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  • mikeyb128mikeyb128 Posts: 2,559
    edited September 2017
    Slapaho wrote: »
    Been thinking about this car too much and noticed something. I've read it comes 315/40-18 Nitro drag radials (plus skinnies in the drag pack. Are they installing the big sticky fronts so owners will have extras after going through the rears? Or maybe the big front tires for double duty on road courses? If the suspension is set up for drag racing though it's not going to be much fun open tracking or street driving. Not enough rebound valving and too much compression valving in front to drive drive on the street. And the opposite in rear. Valved for weight transfer to the rear for traction for wheelies and better 60' times. Change the shocks and struts to more conventual settings and it might turn into a strong track day car and better/safer street car.

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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 16,051
    NotaSuv wrote: »
    That is not what the car is built for. I bought a drag racer that I can drive on the street. You are free to go buy one of your very own and do anything you want to it.

    Yes that sun roof option will scream drag racer ;)

    You're just jealous.

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  • That is not what the car is built for. I bought a drag racer that I can drive on the street. You are free to go buy one of your very own and do anything you want to it.

    My thinking or wondering how single use they made it. A chassis set up to be it's best drag racing isn't much fun driving around in. Dodge putting the big drag radials on the front is what's puzzling to me. They did it for a reason. Either so you'll have an extra pair? Or maybe for open track? If you're buying it to actually go drag racing somewhere that'll let you on the track that's great. I'm just wondering about the OEM front tire choice since.
  • ......since I assume you're getting the drag-pack or whatever they're calling it and will be running the skinnies up front if you get on a strip.
  • If the shocks and struts are valved to be it's best on a drag strip you probably not going to dig it too much on the street. Especially over wavy bumps and hard turns. Anyone that's tried like Lakewood drag struts and shocks on their daily driver will tell you it's not much fun. I've read it has pretty bad body roll in turns but the wide body kit and huge tires help a little bit. They didn't say anything good or bad about overall handling other than they had to take it easy on the street other than trying to do a wheelie at every stop sign.

    I'm not bashing the car in any way. I'm just curious how far they took the chassis and suspension to get the front lift. Hopefully they added subframe connectors/ladder bars to help keep the uni-body somewhat straight. I'd imagine every nitrous company is already working on light kits for 1000HP, exhaust companies, and all of the usual crap claiming gains. Owners trying to get even more out of it will need the chassis mods even more. It's a potent car that's going to need to be treated with respect. With drag radials all around and wacky drag racing suspension there's going to be more than a few wrapped around poles.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 16,051
    edited September 2017
    Slapaho wrote: »
    ... It's a potent car that's going to need to be treated with respect. ... there's going to be more than a few wrapped around poles.

    Which will only make well-cared for examples even better investment vehicles*, which, it will be recalled, was the gist of the first post of this thread and, presumably, still remains the OP's primary goal.

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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 16,943
    I am more concerned about dust scratches and tire rot than a utility pole. I have some experience with high powered cars as well, so when it does come out of its slumber for a trip or two around the block, it will be in very good hands.

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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 9,575
    Better hide the keys if you have another Polk gathering at the house. :)

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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 16,051
    I am more concerned about dust scratches and tire rot than a utility pole. I have some experience with high powered cars as well, so when it does come out of its slumber for a trip or two around the block, it will be in very good hands...

    My point exactly.
    The "hold my beer" crowd will wreck theirs in the first 3 months of ownership; yours will be, to quote Steely Dan, albeit out of context, kitchen clean. :)
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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 16,943
    edited September 2017
    The car will have a vin number by the end of the week... :D B)
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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 8,767
    The car will have a vin number by the end of the week... :D B)

    very nice

  • obieoneobieone Posts: 5,044
    Have fun with your Saturn 5 rocket.
    And say hi to Chevy Chase for me :D

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  • simmsimm Posts: 417
    John, if I remember correctly you work at a dealership. How is the overall reliability of the smaller engined Challengers? Specifically the 5.7 R/T. They are really nice looking cars.
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 16,943
    No issues with those. Good cars. 392 scat packs are a fun drive.
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  • :D Awesome !
    When you take her out for her weekly/monthly, Keep-Her-Fresh-Around-The-Block regimen, will Ms. Nooshin be manning the station at Mission Control ?



    Did I mention Awesome ? :D

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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 16,943
    edited September 2017
    Nope... she will be in the base chapel praying I get home in one piece.
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  • simmsimm Posts: 417
    No issues with those. Good cars. 392 scat packs are a fun drive.

    Thanks. My wife and I test drove one last weekend. A new 2016 but couldn't quite get where I wanted pricewise for it. I may wait until after the first of the year when her car is paid for and I have paid for the last semester of college for my youngest and go after a 2018 with the 392. We really liked the ride and power of the car we drove and can only imagine the fun with the bigger engine.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 16,051
    I just had a brilliant idea. FCA should come out with a no-holds-barred high performance variant of the Fiat 500 and call it the Hellgrammite

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    You read it here first!

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  • scubalabscubalab Posts: 2,060
    ^^^ I've caught many bass and walleye with the larva of the Dobsonfly in my youth. Those mandibles (pinchers) can take a chunk out of a fingertip if not handled carefully.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 16,051
    edited November 2017
    Indeed. When I was a yoot, we used to call one of those larvae (or is it a nymph?) a "he11-of-a-bite" :)

    Sorry for the minor thread detour. GPS is now rerouting...
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  • scubalabscubalab Posts: 2,060
    Yeah John... when's the Demon coming? We want pics!
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  • NotaSuvNotaSuv Posts: 2,431
    2018 Dodge Demon brand new prices are dropping.........
    A glut of these on the market right now as there are hellcats....so great prices out there for those in the market.. Dodge got a lil carried away on the production runs......had the pleasure of driving both as a dealer here has 3 demons on his lot.....ended up driving a 2015 Hellcat home for my new daily driver.......pics to be posted................
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 16,943
    There have been only thirty demons shipped so far.. what dealer has three?
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  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 15,215
    There have been only thirty demons shipped so far.. what dealer has three?

    The one PFB talks to on ebay :smile:
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