Sunfire Cinema Grand 5 x 200 or Parasound 5250 v2 for HT

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  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 1,211
    Whatever you do F1 don't start squealing now!

    lol
    You're mixing up Cool Hand Luke and Deliverance. Both in my top ten, btw.
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 37,528
    Whatever you do F1 don't start squealing now!

    lol

    You can't even get the movie correct.
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  • GatecrasherGatecrasher Posts: 1,596
    edited June 17
    Hermitism wrote: »
    Whatever you do F1 don't start squealing now!

    lol
    You're mixing up Cool Hand Luke and Deliverance. Both in my top ten, btw.

    Yeah you're right! lol

    Thanks for clearing it up. They are both top tens in my book too.

    Alright F1, don't eat all those eggs!!
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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 9,075
    LOL. Just as with politics, some people just make things up, and then try to pass it off as fact. Still awaiting the real world data to compare to the industry data. Then again, since the industry is in the real world, I'm not sure just what real world data actually is. :)
    Bud

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  • GatecrasherGatecrasher Posts: 1,596
    edited June 17
    Maybe you can write it all up in one of your "engineering reports" on Monday.

    lol
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    (4) SRT Subs & Satellites
    (2) SRT Center Speakers
    (2) SRT Control Centers w/Remote
    (4) f/x1000 Surrounds
    (2) PSW650 Subs
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  • halenhalen Posts: 54
    BlueFox wrote: »
    LOL. Just as with politics, some people just make things up, and then try to pass it off as fact. Still awaiting the real world data to compare to the industry data. Then again, since the industry is in the real world, I'm not sure just what real world data actually is. :)

    Bud,

    I am offended that you do not take marketing brochures as law and present real world, factual benchmarks.

    I think you are just jealous an AVR pumps out 1400 mega watts... more than your Pass Labs. Pioneer said so. Hahaha.

    Wowza.

    Cheers my friend.
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 9,075
    Just as I thought. No data to support your opinion. That's fine, but doesn't help your credibility.
    Bud

    Lumin S1
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-20 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon for source, Denali 2000 (2) for amps
    Shunyata Z Anaconda XLR analog ICs, Z Anaconda speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
    Revelation Audio Passage Cryo-Silver Reference DB-25 umbilical power cable

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • GatecrasherGatecrasher Posts: 1,596
    edited June 17
    Why don't you manufacture some for me?

    Better yet... how 'bout you "engineer" some for me?

    lol
    POLK AUDIO SRT
    (Signature Reference Theater)

    2rqdrna.jpg s6k686.jpg 11rgneu.jpg
    SRT 10.2 SYSTEM
    (4) SRT Subs & Satellites
    (2) SRT Center Speakers
    (2) SRT Control Centers w/Remote
    (4) f/x1000 Surrounds
    (2) PSW650 Subs
    Pioneer Elite SC-09TX AVR
    Pioneer Elite BDP-09FD Blu-Ray
    Pioneer Elite BDP-33FD Blu-Ray (Region-Free)
    Custom HTPC w/Multi-Lane SATA Hot-Swapable Drive RAID Tower
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 6,785
    Fwiw my facts came from an old sunfire link. I had the choice of 17" model or 19" model. Not knowing i just went with 17". I do not think it would of made a difference in spec's. So the model was the old model with the joule window once again i do not not know if it is the same model the op was looking at. Regardless it's been sold and out if the running and the op has switched gears for now.....
    Jeesh

    Off to fix my a stiff gin and tonic
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 9,075
    Why don't you manufacture some for me?

    lol

    That makes no sense. Typical though. Anyway, I have posted real data to support my point, so until something sane and relevant is posted I am moving on. There is music to listen to, along with beer to drink, tonight.

    Bud

    Lumin S1
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-20 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon for source, Denali 2000 (2) for amps
    Shunyata Z Anaconda XLR analog ICs, Z Anaconda speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
    Revelation Audio Passage Cryo-Silver Reference DB-25 umbilical power cable

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • GatecrasherGatecrasher Posts: 1,596
    edited June 17
    pitdogg2 wrote: »

    Off to fix my a stiff gin and tonic

    Can I have one!

    I need one after being roughed up by this crowd!

    Whew!!
    POLK AUDIO SRT
    (Signature Reference Theater)

    2rqdrna.jpg s6k686.jpg 11rgneu.jpg
    SRT 10.2 SYSTEM
    (4) SRT Subs & Satellites
    (2) SRT Center Speakers
    (2) SRT Control Centers w/Remote
    (4) f/x1000 Surrounds
    (2) PSW650 Subs
    Pioneer Elite SC-09TX AVR
    Pioneer Elite BDP-09FD Blu-Ray
    Pioneer Elite BDP-33FD Blu-Ray (Region-Free)
    Custom HTPC w/Multi-Lane SATA Hot-Swapable Drive RAID Tower
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 6,785
    pitdogg2 wrote: »

    Off to fix my a stiff gin and tonic

    Can I have one!

    I need one after being roughed up by this crowd!

    Whew!!

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    Fix your own
  • GatecrasherGatecrasher Posts: 1,596
    Man with that I sure would!
    POLK AUDIO SRT
    (Signature Reference Theater)

    2rqdrna.jpg s6k686.jpg 11rgneu.jpg
    SRT 10.2 SYSTEM
    (4) SRT Subs & Satellites
    (2) SRT Center Speakers
    (2) SRT Control Centers w/Remote
    (4) f/x1000 Surrounds
    (2) PSW650 Subs
    Pioneer Elite SC-09TX AVR
    Pioneer Elite BDP-09FD Blu-Ray
    Pioneer Elite BDP-33FD Blu-Ray (Region-Free)
    Custom HTPC w/Multi-Lane SATA Hot-Swapable Drive RAID Tower
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 6,785
    Best gin i ever had beat Tanqueray and Bombay by a large margin. I'll stoop once in a while and have a Tanqueray rangpur lime.
  • PSOVLSKPSOVLSK Posts: 3,460
    Specs aside, I just can't imagine the Pio would be as good as the Sunfire. That being said, the Pio I was using was NOT a top of the line, so...maybe.
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  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 6,906
    Gin tastes like pine needles. Rather, what I think pine needles taste like anyway.
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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 9,075
    edited June 18
    I need one after being roughed up by this crowd!

    My apologies for contributing to that feeling. I wasn't trying to be a bad person, rather I was trying to be accurate. That is just my personality, and while it perfectly messes with my engineering job, it conflicts with people, which, obviously, results in a misunderstanding.

    If someone were to offer me a choice between the Pioneer or the Sunfire then I would jump on the Pioneer. Not because the amp specs aren't better than the Sunfire, but because it is nearly equal in that area, and has beaucoup features.
    Post edited by KennethSwauger on
    Bud

    Lumin S1
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-20 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon for source, Denali 2000 (2) for amps
    Shunyata Z Anaconda XLR analog ICs, Z Anaconda speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
    Revelation Audio Passage Cryo-Silver Reference DB-25 umbilical power cable

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 9,075
    edited June 18
    Protest:

    Ken edited my post. I did not ask for that, nor was it necessary. Please remove my censored post.

    For posterity.

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    Bud

    Lumin S1
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-20 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon for source, Denali 2000 (2) for amps
    Shunyata Z Anaconda XLR analog ICs, Z Anaconda speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
    Revelation Audio Passage Cryo-Silver Reference DB-25 umbilical power cable

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • nbrowsernbrowser Posts: 6,425
    F1nut wrote: »
    Something doesn't add up with those Pioneer specs. It states the max power consumption is 550 watts. My 2 channel amp is rated at 510 wpc @ 8 Ohms with a max power consumption of 1960 watts.

    My 2 channel amp makes lights dance when pushed and makes things ultra flicker on power up...nice current draw at turn on! :)
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    Keiko wrote: »
    That's offensive and not audio related. I'm telling! :#
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 9,075
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I need one after being roughed up by this crowd!
    I wasn't trying to be a bad person, rather I was trying to be accurate.

    This should read:
    I wasn't trying to be annoying, rather I was trying to be accurate.

    The original post was:
    I wasn't trying to be a <Richard>, rather I was trying to be accurate.

    In what universe is "bad person" synonymous with <Richard>?

    LOL



    Bud

    Lumin S1
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-20 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon for source, Denali 2000 (2) for amps
    Shunyata Z Anaconda XLR analog ICs, Z Anaconda speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
    Revelation Audio Passage Cryo-Silver Reference DB-25 umbilical power cable

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • PSOVLSKPSOVLSK Posts: 3,460
    New Polk Rule: If you think someone is being a <Richard> just call them a "bad person." :D :D :p



    You know, like someone is probably going to do to me regarding this post ;)
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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 15,967
    My favorite color is maroon
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  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 6,906
    edited June 20
    My favorite color is maroon

    Is your house filled with many leather bound books and smell of rich mahogany?
    | Front - Dynaudio Emit M20 | Center - N/A | Rear - Polk Monitor 4 | Sub - N/A |
    | AVR - Yamaha Aventage RX-A1020 | Preamp - Dared MC-7P | Amp - B&K Reference 4420 |
    | Turntable - Yamaha PX-3 | Cartridge - Dynavector DV-20X2H | Digital Source - AURALiC Aries Mini |
    | TV - LG 60" 4K | Gaming - Xbox One - PS3 - New 3DS XL - Nvidia Shield TV |

    This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality
    Embrace this moment, remember, we are eternal
    All this pain is an illusion
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 15,967
    Nightfall wrote: »
    My favorite color is maroon

    Is your house filled with many leather bound books and smell of rich mahogany?

    Wrapped in the finest Corinthian leather...
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Walker Precision Motor Drive with ClearAudio Titanium v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X1 two channel preamplifier Signed by Poppa himself, Pioneer PDD 9MkII SACD Player, Pass Labs Xono twin chassis phono preamplifier, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo BDP-95 Bluray, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds


    Men are like a very fine wine. They start off as grapes, and it takes the love of a Woman to stomp the crap out of them in order to make them something modestly acceptable to have dinner with...
  • jayman_1975jayman_1975 Posts: 640
    So where does damping factor fit in to all of this? How come the pioneer doesn't have that spec on their list?
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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 6,785
    I myself have never seen that spec given for a receiver. That being said I have heard HIGH dampening factor amps that sounded like crap to my ears and heard LOW dampening factor amps that did not. How well an amp controls the drivers is important but I believe there are other factors also in play as well.
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