RTA 11T vs Monitor 11T? What's the difference?

msgmsg Posts: 3,476
edited June 12 in Speakers
Hey guys,
I'm just realizing that a set of what I thought were RTA-11Ts I picked up last year actually say Monitor Series 11T on them.

I also notice that they're constructed of particleboard and not MDF.
Same on the Monitor 10s from my early days.

I had a look around and I see that some 11T speakers say Real Time Array Series
These also seem to be constructed of particleboard. Were these all constructed with particleboard?

What's the difference? Was it just a name progression or is there a difference in construction? I thought maybe the tweeter, but that doesn't seem consistently different, either. Then there's the TL version.


Another post comes to mind for a side question...
Were all Monitor 10 series speakers constructed of particleboard, or were some made with MDF? Or was MDF used only in the SDA series? For this question, I'd like to call the attention of some members of the Druid Council here, appearing in alphabetical order, @agfrost @gimpod @F1nut @mhardy6647 @westmassguy and, introducing, @shauncassidy as "The Kid". And any other knowledgeable folks whom I did not intentionally mean to overlook.

Comments

  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 8,044
    edited June 12
    pretty sure they switched the name from Monitor 11 to RTA11T for the first gen. Then TL for the second gen. Everything I see in the vintage the PCB board for both the M11 and RTA11 use the same caps and resistors. RTA11 T once again I think the T stood for Tower and the TL was then for Tri-lam tweeter.

    Its confusing for sure. All I know is I should of bought a set back in the day new they were offered to me for an ungodly cheap price and I PASSED worst decision I ever made.
  • codycatalistcodycatalist Posts: 1,196
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    pretty sure they switched the name from Monitor 11 to RTA11T for the first gen. Then TL for the second gen. Everything I see in the vintage the PCB board for both the M11 and RTA11 use the same caps and resistors. RTA11 T once again I think the T stood for Tower and the TL was then for Tri-lam tweeter.

    Its confusing for sure. All I know is I should of bought a set back in the day new they were offered to me for an ungodly cheap price and I PASSED worst decision I ever made.

    Yup, changed the name as there was another company with a Monitor 11 if I remember correctly.
    Living room

    Mains: SDA 2B Studio
    Lows: Velodyne CHT12
    Power: Marantz SR7000 Preouts to Yamaha AV34
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' Curved

    2 Channel/Bedroom

    *under construction*
    Polk TSI 200
    Power: Marantz PM235
    CDP: Technics SL-PD688
    TT: Pioneer PL510

    Noggin Rockin'

    Grado SR80e
    Harman Kardon CL
    Little dot 1+/GE JAN 5654w

    Closet of Dreams:

    Harman Kardon AVR130
    Yamaha HTR5590
    Paradigm Monitor 90
    Polk RTA11TL
    New Large Advents 25th Anniversary Edition
    Bravo V2/RCA Clear top Conn branded 12AU7

    "Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
    " I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 8,044
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    pretty sure they switched the name from Monitor 11 to RTA11T for the first gen. Then TL for the second gen. Everything I see in the vintage the PCB board for both the M11 and RTA11 use the same caps and resistors. RTA11 T once again I think the T stood for Tower and the TL was then for Tri-lam tweeter.

    Its confusing for sure. All I know is I should of bought a set back in the day new they were offered to me for an ungodly cheap price and I PASSED worst decision I ever made.

    Yup, changed the name as there was another company with a Monitor 11 if I remember correctly.

    I'm betting it was Paradigm Speakers. IIRC
  • DaveHoDaveHo Posts: 1,568
    edited June 12
    Not the same speaker. Monitor 11 is basically a Monitor 10 in a larger cabinet. https://polksda.com/monitor11.shtml

    Where as the RTA11 is this: https://polksda.com/rta11t.shtml
  • skrolskrol Posts: 2,599
    The original Monitor 11 looked similar to the SDA, having the tweeter above 2 side-by-side mid woofers and a large passive radiator below.ozinzq30zmgn.jpg
    Monitor 11

    To make things a little more confusing, I believe some Monitor 11 were labeled RTA11. There was an RTA12 that looks similar to the Monitor 11 (RTA11) but has the tweeter externally mounted on top and set back for true time alignment.

    The RTA11T started out as the Monitor 11T. They are the same speaker. As noted above, the RTA11T was upgraded to the RTA11TL and has the SL-3000 tri-laminate tweeter. The PR's are also tuned a little different, has a spoiler just above the tweeter, lower diffraction grills and improved cabinet rigidity.

    dipgvtvo9vhe.jpg
    Monitor 11

    r14d0b7c974q.jpg
    RTA-11T

    90i7m7mwhqhb.jpg
    RTA-11TL
    Stan

    Main 2ch:
    Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i

    HT:
    Denon AVR-888, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW10, Marantz UD5005, Panasonic TC-P42S60

    Other stuff:
    Denon: DRA-835R, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, TSi100; Pioneer: CT-6R, PL-530; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, Polk: RM7, Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 38,246
    This Monitor 11 was a bit more than a larger Monitor 10. It addressed the 10's comb filtering problem by restricting the frequencies of the two drivers. That is why they, unlike the 10's, are labeled left and right channel.

    0g70895z6975.jpg
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • halohalo Posts: 3,681
    I owned both the Monitor 11 and the RTA 11 and the Monitor 11 is easily the best vintage Polk speaker I've ever had in my collection.

    The Monitor 11 features a 12" passive radiator and the peerless tweeters along with the left and right designation on the backs of the speaker cabinets.

    The RTA 11 is a completely different speaker and, coincidentally, my second fav among the vintage Polk speakers I've owned. The RTA 11 featured the SL2000 metal dome tweeter IIRC and two smaller passive radiators in a taller, slimmer, cabinet.

    FWIW, I also owned the Monitor 10A, 10B, and the RTA 15TL. I heard different models of the SDA speakers several times but never owned a pair.
  • K_MK_M Posts: 938
    RTA11t is maybe my favorite of all our older vintage polks, including even the SDA ones.
    It is for some reason, the most coherent and has great imaging.
    Lsi15, Lsi9, LsiC,Rta11t,M5jr+,M4,SDA 3.1TL, SDA SRS 2.3TL, Rti6....Still listing stuff, a work in progress.
    B+W-
    Epos-
    Infinity-
    Advent-

Sign In or Register to comment.

Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!