TODAY I STOLE ME A PIECE OF GEAR!

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  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,086
    F1nut wrote: »
    Throw the lemon oil away too, more junk.

    Dangnabit.... Ok.
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  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,086
    @F1nut

    Which specific Guardsman polish? Seems there are quite a few......

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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,508
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • Toolfan66Toolfan66 Posts: 13,914
    That's a beautiful piece!!
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 19,383
    I am digging the "channel balance verifier"! :)

    The record changer -- is what it is. It is almost certainly a ceramic (piezoelectric) cartridge (there's a tiny chance it's got a magnetic cartridge, but I think it's unlikely).

    I am not nearly as "down" on the console changers as are the vinylista of today (FWIW). With a good stylus and properly set up, it should be capable of playing a record without damage. I wouldn't play high-value vinyl on it, though :) Also, it is safe to assume that its rubber bits are probably hardened or otherwise showing their age. If nothing else, it may be noisy (rumbly) and/or exhibit wow, flutter and/or play a bit off-speed, or it may be too gunked up from age to work at all (platter and/or the changer functions).
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,086
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    I am digging the "channel balance verifier"! :)

    The record changer -- is what it is. It is almost certainly a ceramic (piezoelectric) cartridge (there's a tiny chance it's got a magnetic cartridge, but I think it's unlikely).

    I am not nearly as "down" on the console changers as are the vinylista of today (FWIW). With a good stylus and properly set up, it should be capable of playing a record without damage. I wouldn't play high-value vinyl on it, though :) Also, it is safe to assume that its rubber bits are probably hardened or otherwise showing their age. If nothing else, it may be noisy (rumbly) and/or exhibit wow, flutter and/or play a bit off-speed, or it may be too gunked up from age to work at all (platter and/or the changer functions).

    Yeah, I am going to get a quote on what it would cost to go through and get the amp and tuner up to spec, and a totally different one on what it would cost to get the TT up to spec and working.

    Thankfully I dont really have any high dollar LP's, just stuff from my childhood that my dad played (which I also have digitally). I would like to eventually get it up and running but TBH as long as the tuner works and everything plays thats about all that really matters.

    I am also going to bring the amp up to spec on the chance if things go south with other parts or whatnot I can take it out of the console to work as a power amp. Same with the pre-amp, though it likely would be a larger challenge to convert to something that didnt look really bad.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • ManticoreManticore Posts: 286
    Nice score Dan. Don't forget to tape a nickle to the tonearm for LP playing. :#
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  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,086
    PS the one somewhat cool thing was that it was suspended on some sort of shock absorbent platform, an attempt to minimize scratches and whatnot from people walking by and whatnot.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,086
    Manticore wrote: »
    Nice score Dan. Don't forget to tape a nickle to the tonearm for LP playing. :#

    WHUH? :confused:
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,956
    Very nice Dan, those old consoles sounded great. Of course the trouble today is, you can't exactly through them in your back seat to go get them worked on. If anything, it'll turn ya into a tube fanboy.
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  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,086
    tonyb wrote: »
    Very nice Dan, those old consoles sounded great. Of course the trouble today is, you can't exactly through them in your back seat to go get them worked on. If anything, it'll turn ya into a tube fanboy.

    Yeah there is that lol... thankfully my buddies shop is LITERALLY 5 minutes down the road, so once I figure out what its gonna cost to get er up to spec, I will probably drive it down there to him.
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  • deronb1deronb1 Posts: 4,317
    Wow! Beautiful piece Dan! Congrats!
  • oldrockeroldrocker Posts: 1,986
    Cool find

    I was a at sale few weeks back, they had 2 old consoles with tubes in decent shape, one was playing when I was there.

    I almost bought one with the hopes of pulling the amps out to use for power.

    I had no idea how one would go about pulling out the amps and making everything work, so I passed.

    That thing looks to good to tear apart but If you end up doing that, take some notes for me on how you make everything work.
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,956
    tonyb wrote: »
    Very nice Dan, those old consoles sounded great. Of course the trouble today is, you can't exactly through them in your back seat to go get them worked on. If anything, it'll turn ya into a tube fanboy.

    Yeah there is that lol... thankfully my buddies shop is LITERALLY 5 minutes down the road, so once I figure out what its gonna cost to get er up to spec, I will probably drive it down there to him.

    Cost is probably going to be more than your willing to spend. I'd probably just replace old caps and clean her up, especially the tube sockets. Bringing everything in that puppy up to spec can get deep in the pockets, concentrate on the amp part would be my advice. That's the heart and soul of those old consoles.
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  • dromundsdromunds Posts: 7,247
    A stacker TT. Gotta love it. Sweet looking piece of furniture that.
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,086
    tonyb wrote: »
    Cost is probably going to be more than your willing to spend. I'd probably just replace old caps and clean her up, especially the tube sockets. Bringing everything in that puppy up to spec can get deep in the pockets, concentrate on the amp part would be my advice. That's the heart and soul of those old consoles.

    That's what I meant tony lol. Replace the caps that can/will go bad and make sure the tube amp and pre are working good, replace the bad FM bulb on the display and make sure all the speakers work.

    Not a complete rebuild top to bottom.

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  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,086
    edited June 2017
    oldrocker wrote: »
    I was a at sale few weeks back, they had 2 old consoles with tubes in decent shape, one was playing when I was there.

    I almost bought one with the hopes of pulling the amps out to use for power.

    I had no idea how one would go about pulling out the amps and making everything work, so I passed

    And you didn't call me.... I see how you are :wink:.

    It's easy to pull the tube amps out.... then just send to bobby to convert it lol.... mainly it's making sure it's a stereo tube amp inside lol....
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • oldrockeroldrocker Posts: 1,986
    I didn't know you was looking for something like that.

    I've come across 4-5 in the last month or so. D'oh.... :s
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,086
    oldrocker wrote: »
    I didn't know you was looking for something like that.

    I've come across 4-5 in the last month or so. D'oh.... :s

    Yup, looking to steal out a tube amp out of a dog of a console lol.....
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • Jimbo18Jimbo18 Posts: 1,843
    Sweet piece. Hopefully you can keep it as original as feasible.
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  • dromundsdromunds Posts: 7,247
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  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,086
    Jimbo18 wrote: »
    Sweet piece. Hopefully you can keep it as original as feasible.

    That I will do, as far as whats in WORKING condition... thats a different story :smile: :wink: .

    For now I will stick with just getting all speakers working and the amp refreshed, along with anything else that could use some new caps or resistors so that the FM works.....
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,022
    I personally would refrain from using it until its refreshed.
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  • mrbironmrbiron Posts: 4,840
    DSkip wrote: »
    I personally would refrain from using it until its refreshed.

    Debbie downer....it's not your house.

    My vote is to crank it to 11!
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  • DSkip wrote: »
    I personally would refrain from using it until its refreshed.

    Good advice. Old leaky caps could take out an OT.
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,022
    TForan wrote: »
    DSkip wrote: »
    I personally would refrain from using it until its refreshed.

    Good advice. Old leaky caps could take out an OT.

    Or start a fire. I have one in my garage and have purposely pulled the power amp out of it to ensure nobody tries to use it. The capacitors in them are all shot. The guy I bought it from tried to turn it on for me and I told him I didn't need to see it in action. I got it for $40 and was pleased, but now I don't have a place for it.
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  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 4,254
    Nice pickup! After you have the turntable working, do NOT play good records on it. I called them vinyl killers!
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  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,086
    edited June 2017
    erniejade wrote: »
    Nice pickup! After you have the turntable working, do NOT play good records on it. I called them vinyl killers!

    I may just leave it as is TBH..... seems like the consensus is it's crap so why bother on that part at least lol.

    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • msgmsg Posts: 4,270
    erniejade wrote: »
    Nice pickup! After you have the turntable working, do NOT play good records on it. I called them vinyl killers!
    But it's a really cool looking record player!
    Who cares if it cuts a new groove as it plays.
    Life's too short to play it safe with valuable vinyl.
    Except for mine.
  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 9,919
    As the Germans would say...

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