So I went to a thing and heard some other things.

Scrolling through Facebook Friday night and a sponsored post shows up, "Esoteric Audio Simaudio open demo". I figure why not show up and see what these demos are about as this is my first time in a real hifi audio store. I get to the place and they have some beautiful speakers, amps, transports, dac you name it but nothing playing. This being my first time at such a high end establishment I felt hesitant to ask questions and eventually made my way around the back, looked at some turntables then a door opened and I heard it.

I make my way in the door and there is a full Simaudio moon set up including two Moon 888 mono blocks connected to Rockport Cygnus towers! I eagerly sit down with my wife as they play some jazz, folk, African tribal music and some sweet sweet vinyl.

I wish they turned the system up more to open the speakers and amps up however I heard great relaxed but detailed highs, tight musical bass and great natural mids. I'm very impressed with the experience as a whole and hope to start and branch out to more of these events, even if I will never have the money to make a purchase. :D

I'll upload some pictures I took tomorrow morning!
Living room

Mains: Paradigm 90P
Lows: Velodyne CHT12, Pioneer SW-8Mk2
Power: Marantz SR7000
Tv: Samsung UHD 55' Curved 4k

2 Channel Den

Mains: SDA2B Upgraded XOs and Binding Posts
Power: Yamaha AV34
TT: Pioneer PL510
Tv: Samsung UHD 55' 4K

Noggin Rockin'

Phillips L2
Grado SE80
Harman Kardon CL
Little dot 1+/GE JAN 5654w

Closet of Dreams:

Harman Kardon AVR130
Yamaha HTR5590
Polk RTA11TL
Polk TSI200s
New Large Advents 25th Anniversary Edition
Bravo V2/RCA Clear top Conn branded 12AU7

"Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
" I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88

Comments

  • msgmsg Posts: 3,971
    You are tempting fate, my friend B)

    Curious, what kind of participation did you see? I should start looking to see if there's anything like this where I live.

    Also, curious, does your wife enjoy this with you, or does she just humor you?
  • rpf65rpf65 Posts: 1,632
    Second mortgages to buy audio gear is a really bad idea.
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 28,937
    Actually, even though you may never be able to buy high caliber gear, it's good to get your ears on it. Why ?

    So you can register in your brain the sound you like....or don't like. The gear you can afford comes in many flavors that could get you close to those sounds. Also, what may appear out of reach today, price wise, may be affordable 4 or 5 years down the road on the used markets.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    Tad 803 bookies
    Polk 500 surrounds
    Polk s35 center
    SVS SB-2000
    Sonos

    Music-

    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k 1403 amp
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    ERA D5 bookies

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 17,358
    edited June 2017
    Yup, good point! Every system we hear gives us another reference point, which I find incredibly useful. Listening to this stuff is (I'd humbly opine) much more valuable than reading (or writing or talking) about it.

    When I started in this furshlugginer hobby, I had no money, a fair amount of discretionary time, a car (well, a truck -- back before trucks were considered cool by the rabble) and the luxury of a number of fine hifi emporia in easy driving range (DC/Baltimore area, mid-late 1970s). I listened a lot and learned a lot.

    The broader one's exposure, the less likely, I think, one is to get dogmatic about a brand, or a technology, or a source. After a while, one stops regurgitating others' opinions and starts to spout one's own opinions :)

    As in my day job discipline (science), an open mind is a really valuable tool, as well. Hold your beliefs lightly, because you might be surprised by something you hear.

    "It's like watching a roomful of people who couldn't get through college algebra discussing the flaws of quantum physics theory. I guess it could be fun, but it's ultimately a waste of time." -- seen on audiokarma

    "Some amps run on self bias, some amps run on fixed bias. But his amps run on confirmation bias." -- seen on audioasylum

    "Writing about hifi is like dancing about architecture" -- paraphrasing some wag (possibly Frank Zappa)
  • codycatalistcodycatalist Posts: 1,333
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    Living room

    Mains: Paradigm 90P
    Lows: Velodyne CHT12, Pioneer SW-8Mk2
    Power: Marantz SR7000
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' Curved 4k

    2 Channel Den

    Mains: SDA2B Upgraded XOs and Binding Posts
    Power: Yamaha AV34
    TT: Pioneer PL510
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' 4K

    Noggin Rockin'

    Phillips L2
    Grado SE80
    Harman Kardon CL
    Little dot 1+/GE JAN 5654w

    Closet of Dreams:

    Harman Kardon AVR130
    Yamaha HTR5590
    Polk RTA11TL
    Polk TSI200s
    New Large Advents 25th Anniversary Edition
    Bravo V2/RCA Clear top Conn branded 12AU7

    "Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
    " I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
  • codycatalistcodycatalist Posts: 1,333
    msg wrote: »
    You are tempting fate, my friend B)

    Curious, what kind of participation did you see? I should start looking to see if there's anything like this where I live.

    Also, curious, does your wife enjoy this with you, or does she just humor you?

    She loves audio and good replication but it's not her passion she just knows it's mine and likes to tag along.

    Not too many people were there, id say about 10ish maybe.
    Living room

    Mains: Paradigm 90P
    Lows: Velodyne CHT12, Pioneer SW-8Mk2
    Power: Marantz SR7000
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' Curved 4k

    2 Channel Den

    Mains: SDA2B Upgraded XOs and Binding Posts
    Power: Yamaha AV34
    TT: Pioneer PL510
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' 4K

    Noggin Rockin'

    Phillips L2
    Grado SE80
    Harman Kardon CL
    Little dot 1+/GE JAN 5654w

    Closet of Dreams:

    Harman Kardon AVR130
    Yamaha HTR5590
    Polk RTA11TL
    Polk TSI200s
    New Large Advents 25th Anniversary Edition
    Bravo V2/RCA Clear top Conn branded 12AU7

    "Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
    " I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 17,460
    My interest in Rockport has been piqued, and there is a set for sale on the 'Gon that is at the end of my reach...
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with PS Audio NuWave Phono converter, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Stradivari v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X1 two channel preamplifier Signed by Poppa himself, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Krell Evolution 525a CD Player, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo UDP-205 Blu-ray , Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds

  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 9,517
    That's where I started after joining the forum and listening to these guys talk audio.
    All the different lingo associated peaked my curiosity.

    Now I take every chance I get and stop at the few audio shops, go to shows, and make it to every gathering I can.
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures, Simaudio 780D DAC
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Modwright LS100, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers
  • msgmsg Posts: 3,971
    maaaaaaan, cool stuff!
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 14,408
    Yep. Now, get your arse down here in October for my meet. It will be well worth the trip bud.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • codycatalistcodycatalist Posts: 1,333
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    That's where I started after joining the forum and listening to these guys talk audio.
    All the different lingo associated peaked my curiosity.

    Now I take every chance I get and stop at the few audio shops, go to shows, and make it to every gathering I can.

    My problem is that being a young guy with little budget I feel odd being at those kind of shows looking at items that cost more than I make in a year. However I had a great experience at this show and no one seemed to pay us any negative attention so I am going to try and go as much as possible now too for reference.
    msg wrote: »
    maaaaaaan, cool stuff!

    DUUUUUDDDEEEE SUPER cool!
    DSkip wrote: »
    Yep. Now, get your arse down here in October for my meet. It will be well worth the trip bud.

    Hopefully! I haven't had a Texas trip since January, let me line my ducks in a row.
    Living room

    Mains: Paradigm 90P
    Lows: Velodyne CHT12, Pioneer SW-8Mk2
    Power: Marantz SR7000
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' Curved 4k

    2 Channel Den

    Mains: SDA2B Upgraded XOs and Binding Posts
    Power: Yamaha AV34
    TT: Pioneer PL510
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' 4K

    Noggin Rockin'

    Phillips L2
    Grado SE80
    Harman Kardon CL
    Little dot 1+/GE JAN 5654w

    Closet of Dreams:

    Harman Kardon AVR130
    Yamaha HTR5590
    Polk RTA11TL
    Polk TSI200s
    New Large Advents 25th Anniversary Edition
    Bravo V2/RCA Clear top Conn branded 12AU7

    "Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
    " I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
  • xsmixsmi Posts: 1,296
    [/quote]

    My problem is that being a young guy with little budget I feel odd being at those kind of shows looking at items that cost more than I make in a year. However I had a great experience at this show and no one seemed to pay us any negative attention so I am going to try and go as much as possible now too for reference.
    msg wrote: »
    maaaaaaan, cool stuff!

    The thing is, not all of those older ladies/gents have the means either. I usually go to Paragon Sight and Sound when they have their events (I missed last Thursday's Wilson Audio event.) and there is absolutely no way I'd ever be able to drop $150K on speakers. But, they want me there and the bug me through email until I relent. So GO! Get your ears on as much gear as you can. Enjoy the ride.
    2-channel
    Yaqin MC-30L, Denon DVD 3900, Sony C69ES CD Changer, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Turntable, Pro-Ject Phono Box MM, Klipsch KG-4, Monster Cable throughout.
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 14,408
    It's an EVENT, not a sales event. These kinds of things generate buzz about the business and about the products. It is about the sales, but they know most attendees aren't interested in that. Serious buyers want dedicated time alone with the product if they are going to drop six figures on a speaker.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • WLDockWLDock Posts: 2,121
    edited June 2017
    Yeah, think of it this way..

    One can go listen to middle school band concerts every season. However, once you step into a premier venue for acoustics and hears some live professionals musicians doing their thing it changes your perspective about live music and how great it can sound. Listening to high end audio can give you that same perspective about what's possible.

    Sometimes you may hear expensive gear that does not sound that hot....maybe it was the music, the setup, the room, ??? It just proves that there are no absolutes in audio and HELL yes there is a point of diminishing returns for us poor ordinary working folks.

    I was in college when I first stepped into a high end audio store. By then, I had played all types of music, in all types of venues around the US, Europe, and Mexico. I've always had an ear for pure sound. Right away the sound caught my ear...it became fun to go to different stores and listen. Along the way, I ran into some serious audiophile snobs that would not give me the time of day. Then there were shops that would let me have my way! They would hand over the remote and let me listen to all the personal CD's, albums that I wanted. Back then I remember some Kef 107, B&W 801, MartinLogan, Krell, Mark Levinson, Conrad Johnson, tubes, and vinyl moments that left a lasting impression. Also, one of the stores had a room that looked like a nice upscale family room with a full McIntosh theater system. The salesman dimmed the lights, walked out, and closed the door. The movie Jurassic Park was on. I tell you, this was one of the best home theater moments for me at the time.

    I just remember telling myself that the 'true' high end gear was out of reach....especially given all my other hobbies at the time. I told myself if I'm successful in life that maybe in my 40's-50's will I be able to afford a $20K-$50K stereo. So, I just gave up on home audio and settled for a basic MCS, Sony, Marantz, Yamaha, etc. rack systems over the years. I did however go car audio crazy because I was into cars at the time. I had some pretty high end car audio stuff at times.

    Well...... I'm 51 and still chasing a decent mid-fi 2 channel system. Where did all the time go? Who knows when it will happen....but I'm trying to turn the corner soon. The quest continues.

    Bottom line, listen to as much as you can....even if its gear that you don't own or can afford. You don't have to own high end gear to enjoy the music coming from it!
    Post edited by WLDock on
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