Dang -- my "Simple 2A3" amplifier. Just. Blew. Up.

For an as-yet unknown reason, the cathode capacitor on one channel of my (slightly modified) JE Labs "Simple 2A3" amplifier variant just self-immolated.
Big ol' pop.
Magic smoke.
Acridity.

Fug.

I am wondering if one of them big ol' Sofia "meshplate" 2A3s suffered a filament short... or just what the dang deal was.

Funny thing -- I thought that the other channel was lower in volume, and I was troubleshooting that when the fun began... but maybe the soon-to-immolate channel was actually higher in volume(?!?).

Fortunately, we do still have SE 2A3 backup at the ol' casa.

Paramours are go!

9835310896_f77fa68f7c_b.jpgDSC_0105 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
(photo from a long time ago...)

Thanks for letting me -- ahem -- vent

PS - I did not try the Sofias in the Paramours :neutral: Tossed a pair of cheap-Jack "ValveArt" 2A3s in 'em. For now.
"It's like watching a roomful of people who couldn't get through college algebra discussing the flaws of quantum physics theory. I guess it could be fun, but it's ultimately a waste of time." -- seen on audiokarma

"Some amps run on self bias, some amps run on fixed bias. But his amps run on confirmation bias." -- seen on audioasylum

"Writing about hifi is like dancing about architecture" -- paraphrasing some wag (possibly Frank Zappa)

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  • msgmsg Posts: 3,971
    Dislike.
    Yet, like.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 17,358
    as an aside - it was the low-volume channel that popped a capacitor; I forgot I was lookin' at it upside-down! I am not too good with spatial stuff.
    "It's like watching a roomful of people who couldn't get through college algebra discussing the flaws of quantum physics theory. I guess it could be fun, but it's ultimately a waste of time." -- seen on audiokarma

    "Some amps run on self bias, some amps run on fixed bias. But his amps run on confirmation bias." -- seen on audioasylum

    "Writing about hifi is like dancing about architecture" -- paraphrasing some wag (possibly Frank Zappa)
  • bikerboybikerboy Posts: 1,133
    Led Zep will do that!
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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 14,408
    Simple is as simple does.
    audiothesis.com/

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  • agfrostagfrost Posts: 2,123
    Hope you get it sorted out, Mark.
    Jay
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  • :o
    That is why you need backup SS equipment o:)
    Studio 2 equipment;
    Yamaha a-s2100 Amp, CD-2100 CD player, T-S500 tuner
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 17,358
    :o
    That is why you need backup SS equipment o:)

    ummm...

    24708700600_ce3816961b_b.jpg010 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    ;)

    The most likely "root cause", I reckon, is that the output tube on that channel shorted. I am frustrated because I don't have any means to test a 2A3 :( -- other than use test (i.e., plug it in another amp and see if something blows up). A shorted output transoformer's another potential cause.

    I can replace the cap and start checking voltages (with no 2A3s installed).

    It just wasn't something I was expecting to be worrying about this week :neutral:
    "It's like watching a roomful of people who couldn't get through college algebra discussing the flaws of quantum physics theory. I guess it could be fun, but it's ultimately a waste of time." -- seen on audiokarma

    "Some amps run on self bias, some amps run on fixed bias. But his amps run on confirmation bias." -- seen on audioasylum

    "Writing about hifi is like dancing about architecture" -- paraphrasing some wag (possibly Frank Zappa)
  • sorry man :(
    Studio 2 equipment;
    Yamaha a-s2100 Amp, CD-2100 CD player, T-S500 tuner
    Loudspeakers: Harbeth p3esr, Polk RT7
    Cables: Aural Harmony Sonnet Interconnect II, WireWorld Equinox 7 speaker,
    Black Cat silverstar 75 ohm digital, Signal Digital Power Cord, PS Audio Perfect Wave AC-3,
    Pangea SE14, Voltz supplied interconnects
    Optional: Arcam DV88 DVD/CD (HDCD) player, Polk SDS-400 speakers
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 17,358
    Well, the tubes have plenty of miles on 'em... and the caps per se are no problem to replace.
    I am just not looking forward to troubleshooting :#

    The oogy stuff from inside the eviscerated cap dissolved some of the print off the bottom terminal panel of the OPT on that side. Fortunately the other one's still legible.
    "It's like watching a roomful of people who couldn't get through college algebra discussing the flaws of quantum physics theory. I guess it could be fun, but it's ultimately a waste of time." -- seen on audiokarma

    "Some amps run on self bias, some amps run on fixed bias. But his amps run on confirmation bias." -- seen on audioasylum

    "Writing about hifi is like dancing about architecture" -- paraphrasing some wag (possibly Frank Zappa)
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 15,538
    First world problems.... just roll in another amp and put that one to the side till you feel like troubleshooting lol....

    The audio gods are saying, time to play with some other amps that haven't had any love in a while.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 17,358
    Affirmative, Houston. Chinese 2A3s -- but relatively good ones (the TJ/Sophia "meshplates"), as such things go.

    16187805777_019bdb6d9f_b.jpgDSC_0128 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    Affirmative, Houston, backup amps (and tubes) are installed and on-line.

    :)

    35012452392_88f03899cc_b.jpgDSC_8376 (2) by Mark Hardy, on Flickr


    FWIW. Here's a forensic photo of the accident scene. Trigger warning - not for the squeamish.

    35011906962_64b4e0d2ff_b.jpgSimple 2A3 after the fire 08Jun17 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
    "It's like watching a roomful of people who couldn't get through college algebra discussing the flaws of quantum physics theory. I guess it could be fun, but it's ultimately a waste of time." -- seen on audiokarma

    "Some amps run on self bias, some amps run on fixed bias. But his amps run on confirmation bias." -- seen on audioasylum

    "Writing about hifi is like dancing about architecture" -- paraphrasing some wag (possibly Frank Zappa)
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 17,358
    I couldn't measure the DC resistance of either 2A3 (i.e., they're both at the residual level of the DMM I used, 0.3 ohm) -- so I cannot tell if one is different than the other (i.e., shorted). I don't (hard to believe though it may seem) have a tube tester that can check a 2A3!

    On the bright side, the DCR of both OPT primaries is (are?) identical: 157 ohm. The OPTs seem to be OK.

    "It's like watching a roomful of people who couldn't get through college algebra discussing the flaws of quantum physics theory. I guess it could be fun, but it's ultimately a waste of time." -- seen on audiokarma

    "Some amps run on self bias, some amps run on fixed bias. But his amps run on confirmation bias." -- seen on audioasylum

    "Writing about hifi is like dancing about architecture" -- paraphrasing some wag (possibly Frank Zappa)
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 28,937
    Just goes to show...your never too old to blow stuff up. lol
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  • ALL212ALL212 Posts: 743
    edited June 2017
    Well...after looking the picture over it's quite obvious what the issue is here.

    Looks like you used a #4 star washer instead of a #6. Your flummox adapter's are both backwards and you didn't rosin up your bow.
    Aaron
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 9,669
    yuuup^^^^ you nailed by jimminy
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 17,358
    youse guyses is good
    "It's like watching a roomful of people who couldn't get through college algebra discussing the flaws of quantum physics theory. I guess it could be fun, but it's ultimately a waste of time." -- seen on audiokarma

    "Some amps run on self bias, some amps run on fixed bias. But his amps run on confirmation bias." -- seen on audioasylum

    "Writing about hifi is like dancing about architecture" -- paraphrasing some wag (possibly Frank Zappa)
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