You have a $4000 budget, what would you buy?

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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,067
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    DSkip wrote: »
    Also Usher CP-6361, but its half your budget.

    Only mentioning it not to say anything negative about Usher but he said he wanted speakers that could pass the "Enter Sandman" (Metallica) test, Ron told me Ushers are not good speakers for metal?
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,132
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    Nightfall wrote: »
    DSkip wrote: »
    Also Usher CP-6361, but its half your budget.

    Only mentioning it not to say anything negative about Usher but he said he wanted speakers that could pass the "Enter Sandman" (Metallica) test, Ron told me Ushers are not good speakers for metal?

    Throw me under the bus ;)
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  • tonyb
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    The ML 60's look sexy to me....then again lots of things look sexy to you as you age. :):)

    I don't think you can go wrong with any of those Steve, the Dynes/Focal/ML, all seem to fit your requirements and are lookers to boot.

    Anything else we can help ya spend your money on ? Lots of ideas man, lots.... :p
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  • dannylightning
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    4k.. maybe a PA system.. a nice crown amp/mixing board combo and maybe some EV speakers. what is live music played thew a PA system, never actually heard anone have one in their home set up for anything but band practice but i bet you can get some recorded music to sound pretty awesome thew a PA.

    for traditional home stereo if you have a strong amp and want a set of big honking speakers i think the floor standing LSiM series is a good choice. I have not heard many speakers in that price range. i did hear some B&W's and some focals that sounded good but your ear may or may not like those speakers. buy the ones that sound best to you in your price range. a few times i have ordered speakers blind and have not been completely happy.

    every set of NHT speakers i have heard sounded really good maybe check some of those out if you can..



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  • deronb1
    deronb1 Posts: 5,021
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    $4k of Google 20 yrs ago...
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,528
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    Buy those Ushers in Michigan so they stop tempting me!
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  • hochpt21
    hochpt21 Posts: 5,423
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    Philharmonic 3's

    Haven't heard them, but have heard really good things about them. They have a RAAL tweeter.

    $3,500 a pair to start, but Jim Salk builds custom cabinets for an up charge.

    http://philharmonicaudio.com/phil3.html

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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 7,973
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    adb3da wrote: »

    These almost seem like a no brainer, at least to take a weekend trip to Scottsdale and get yer ears on 'em!
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  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,640
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    Just a hair above budget but I have spent some serious time with a set (my buddy Dave down the street from me owns the very ones on the webpage in black with the red stripes.)...Salk Veracity HT2s

    http://salksound.com/model.php?model=Veracity HT2

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    And all of the standard wood/finishes are outstanding.

    He also has some very competitive products below the HT2s in price that don't give up much at all.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,522
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    Thanks guys for MORE ideas...my research continues....
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  • Conradicles
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    Focal Aria 948 look sweet too. Can I spend your money haha.
  • Thorton
    Thorton Posts: 1,324
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    Based on your criteria for buying new, I would also go Salk Sound. I've listened to many of his speakers at various price points and always left pleased. That's why I own them. You've got a nice list of speakers going so far, it's time to get out and start getting your ears on them.
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  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,060
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    A pair of Ushers BE-10's.
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  • halen
    halen Posts: 677
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    steveinaz wrote: »
    1. Must be a floorstander
    2. Will not be used with a sub
    3. No electrostatics
    4. MUST BE NEW
    5. No "delicate flowers" it's got to ROCK

    Here's a few I'm considering; MartinLogan Motion 60XT, Polk LsiM 707, PSB Imagine T2. Give me some more ideas...

    Based on all suggestions, a few by those that never heard what they suggested. I could say this. You listed 707 and wanted dynamics. Not sure if anyone mentioned yet, but they are not.

    LSIM's do lots good overall, but when among others in your range.. Not dynamic.

    I see brands mentioned, they are not dynamic. Forward yes, bass heavy, yes as well. But not dynamic.

    If dynamic, based on my experience, I would recommend Dyns and Ushers all the way. If you want dynamic and mids. This is your calling. I speak based on experience not reviews or hearsay.

    Good luck! It is a journey!

    Halen
  • [Deleted User]
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    How about British, Bass, and Budget?
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  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,060
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    Yeah but for 5500 only 1500 hundred over budget you will never find a better deal on a pair of Usher BE-10's far better pair of speakers than what you could find at 4k new, worth considering IMHO.
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  • halen
    halen Posts: 677
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    How about British, Bass, and Budget?
    Tannoy revolution xt 8f

    Budget is $4,000 new.
  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,067
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    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,522
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    The issue isn't the money, it's how much of it I'm willing to spend. I believe I can get this done with a $4k budget----in fact I KNOW I can.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • halen
    halen Posts: 677
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    steveinaz wrote: »
    The issue isn't the money, it's how much of it I'm willing to spend. I believe I can get this done with a $4k budget----in fact I KNOW I can.

    Okay. Perfect. It's not about the money. So what do you plan to power it with?

    Halen
  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,036
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    If it is not about the money...go to a 6k budget and look at more possibilities.
  • halen
    halen Posts: 677
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    For now. Let's stick to the budget even though money is not a factor.

    Let's get the power reserve before furthering.

    Room Size. Check
    Money. Check

    Halen.
  • halen
    halen Posts: 677
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    Instead of assuming, let's get the facts. Assumptions cost to much to correct.

    Halen
  • halen
    halen Posts: 677
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    Rick88 wrote: »
    halen wrote: »
    Instead of assuming, let's get the facts. Assumptions cost too much to correct.

    Halen

    A few facts:

    * You have been here less than 3 weeks
    * Steve has been here going on 14 years
    * He knows what he's talking about
    * He did not ask for opinions on amps, just speakers

    You win. On all accounts. He asked speakers.

    Like anyone that has a basic understanding of audio... the next best question is, what are you powering them with.

    Room size has been accounted for. And money is unlimited. But sticking to $4k.

    Okay okay. You win. Got it. So funny.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,522
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    Rick88 wrote: »
    On another note, gotta admit some of the replies to this thread really had me scratching my head. Cerwin-Vega, PA System?? :o

    Right? Wow. LOL
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  • mpitogo
    mpitogo Posts: 477
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    I see you mentioned Martin Logan Motion 60XT. I listen to the smaller bro the Motion 40 paired with a Sansui AU-6900 in my master bedroom. I really enjoy the quick lively sound. I had Elac Debut B6 in place previously and they sounded a bit laid back and boomy, but not terribly bad bass response from such a small and inexpensive box.

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  • halen
    halen Posts: 677
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    Rick88 wrote: »
    On another note, gotta admit some of the replies to this thread really had me scratching my head. Cerwin-Vega, PA System?? :o

    Agree plus 10.
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,522
    edited May 2017
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    I'm really liking the Focals ALOT. Yes, until my HCA dies...LOL. I won't be committing for a few weeks because we start going thru the moving process this weekend. Thanks for sharing those, stereophile loves them! Judging from their comments, they seem to be what I'm after.
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  • mpitogo
    mpitogo Posts: 477
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    Here is the thing we all go to concerts for these live performances but we don't really encounter an line array of Wilson Grand Slamms right? Closest crossover from PA to home is JBL.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,522
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    Concerts, IMO are the worst place to listen to music. Energy factor? Hell ya; fidelity? Not by a long shot.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2