You have a $4000 budget, what would you buy?

steveinazsteveinaz Posts: 17,831
edited May 24 in Speakers
1. Must be a floorstander
2. Will not be used with a sub
3. No electrostatics
4. MUST BE NEW
5. No "delicate flowers" it's got to ROCK

Here's a few I'm considering; MartinLogan Motion 60XT, Polk LsiM 707, PSB Imagine T2. Give me some more ideas...
Source: Oppo BDP-103/USB HDD | Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2L | Power Amp: Parasound HCA-1500A | Speakers: PSB Imagine T2 | Cables: Kimber Hero/8TC; DH Labs D-75 | AC Power: Panamax M5300-PM
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  • Rick88Rick88 Posts: 12,646
    edited May 24
    "Life is one grand, sweet song, so start the music." ~ Ronald Reagan





  • nbrowsernbrowser Posts: 6,755
    $2,000 Canadian pesos up here, with half the budget left...I can afford a killer amp for them. Yes I've heard them off a Marantz integrated and they absolutely floored me, stunning low end and a nice smooth inviting top end.

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    Living room: Samsung UN55KU7000 4K UHD HDR 55 inch TV, Marantz CD6004, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon, Parasound zPhono, Mac Mini, Oppo BDP-93, XBox One S 2Tb, Kenwood DPX792BH car deck for radio purposes, Marantz SR5010 AVR, Parasound HCA-1200II, Front SDA 2 modded with Larrys Rings and RD0-194-1 tweeters, Rear Onkyo SKF-4800 Towers, Center CSiA6, BOOM Tannoy TS2.12 Sub, Audioquest Evergreen interconnects just about everywhere except from AVR to amp, MIT Terminator 4, MIT AVT3 speaker cables with extra terminals covered up Monitor 5 Jr+ in the wings for a center channel.
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,084
    Don't know, I never had that much to spend on speakers
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Marantz SR5010, Emotiva BasX-A300
    Oppo BDP-93,Panasonic BDT460, DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk TSX250C
    Front High TC80i
    Rear: Polk RC80i
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S30
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • steveinazsteveinaz Posts: 17,831
    GREAT ideas so far...keep them coming!
    Source: Oppo BDP-103/USB HDD | Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2L | Power Amp: Parasound HCA-1500A | Speakers: PSB Imagine T2 | Cables: Kimber Hero/8TC; DH Labs D-75 | AC Power: Panamax M5300-PM
  • adb3daadb3da Posts: 375
    I'd try to find some new old stock Dynaudio Focus series speakers I think. But they may all be gone by now.
  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 4,764
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    Check $$ with @DSkip
    HT:Polk LSiM 706 LSiM 705's VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's| Marantz AV7702 | Sunfire TGA-7401 | Oppo BDP-103D | Sony PS4 | Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 64" Plasma | SVS PB13 Ultra | MIT EXP 2's (Fronts & Center)

    ManCave: Parasound Halo A23 x2 Amps Parsound Halo A21 Amp & P5 Pre | Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's| Usher BE-616 Center|KEF T100 Surrounds | SVS SB2000 Sub |Oppo UDP 203 | MIT Shotgun S3's | Marantz SA8004 SACD | Bluesound Node 2 | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Budgie Phono Pre | Samsung 50" SUHD TV

    Patio Polk Atrium 8's |Marantz 2252B |

    Office Bluesound Node | Audioengine P4 | Peachtree Nova 125SE |

    Closet | SDA SRS 2.3's | Monitor 5B's Yamaha M80 | Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2385
  • mpitogompitogo Posts: 69
    edited May 25
    Golden Ear Triton Two, or Triton One if you can find it on sale.
    Living Room Music-2.0
    Family Room Home Theater-7.2.2
    Office Home Theater-5.1
    Master Bedroom Music-2.0
    Patio Music-2.0
  • FTGVFTGV Posts: 3,529
    edited May 25
    Revel F208 would be high on my list along with the PSB's.I would also look at Salks. http://www.salksound.com/
  • decaldecal Posts: 2,925
    Check out Tyler Acoustics.
    If you can't hear a difference, don't waste your money.
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 16,351
    Or wait a couple months until the new SDA line comes out....
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Walker Precision Motor Drive with ClearAudio Titanium v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X1 two channel preamplifier Signed by Poppa himself, Pioneer PDD 9MkII SACD Player, Pass Labs Xono twin chassis phono preamplifier, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo BDP-95 Bluray, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds


    Men are like a very fine wine. They start off as grapes, and it takes the love of a Woman to stomp the crap out of them in order to make them something modestly acceptable to have dinner with...
  • scottyboy76scottyboy76 Posts: 2,933
    I thought you would never go back to floorstanders after fallin in love with your big bookies, LOL
    I tell ya, always regret leavin some psb stratus golds in a guys livin room cause he wanted 300 bucks and wouldn't even pretend to dicker back and forth, so I left with some big boston acoustics for half that, but I still remember the way they sounded.
    Old speakers, but if they have kept up the quality, hard to beat.
    Good luck old man and god bless
    humpty dumpty was pushed
  • Mike ReeterMike Reeter Posts: 3,065
    SDA SRS 3.1TL's/Dynaudio Contour S 3.4 LE's
  • codycatalistcodycatalist Posts: 1,176
    Or wait a couple months until the new SDA line comes out....

    How "confirmed" is this John? I have seen some cryptic messages from them on social media lately that point to this.
    Living room

    Mains: SDA 2B Studio
    Lows: Velodyne CHT12
    Power: Marantz SR7000 Preouts to Yamaha AV34
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' Curved

    2 Channel/Bedroom

    *under construction*
    Polk TSI 200
    Power: Marantz PM235
    CDP: Technics SL-PD688
    TT: Pioneer PL510

    Noggin Rockin'

    Grado SR80e
    Harman Kardon CL
    Little dot 1+/GE JAN 5654w

    Closet of Dreams:

    Harman Kardon AVR130
    Yamaha HTR5590
    Paradigm Monitor 90
    Polk RTA11TL
    New Large Advents 25th Anniversary Edition
    Bravo V2/RCA Clear top Conn branded 12AU7

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  • hochpt21hochpt21 Posts: 4,800
    mpitogo wrote: »
    Golden Ear Triton Two, or Triton One if you can find it on sale.

    This is what I was going to recommend. I've heard the twos three different times and love them.

    Hopefully, they will be my next pair.
    2 Channel
    Turntable - Pro-Ject 2.9 Wood/Grado Gold Cartridge
    Phono Stage - PS Audio GCPH
    Preamplifier - Dared SL-2000A
    Amplifier - Krell KAV-250a
    Speakers - GoldenEar Triton 2
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 27,489
    edited May 25
    Given your decorating tastes Steve, you want something with a nice finish to it, that also looks like a piece of furniture rather than a big black box.

    I would reconsider the "must be new" aspect though, demo or slightly used will afford you more speaker for the buck. Are the speakers your seeking going to replace the Harbeths ? Are you looking for similar sound signatures ?
    legacy Focus 20/20
    Butler tdb 2250
    Cary Xciter dac
    Joule LA-100
    Pioneer BDP 320
    Sony 4k 55 850c
    FX 500 surround
    Acoustic zen Satori SC's
    Pioneer elite vsx21
    Sonos-Cullen mod.
    Audio Metallurgy GA-0 digital
    PS Audio Quintet
    Analysis Plus crystal ovals
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2's IC
  • Erik TracyErik Tracy Posts: 4,691
    How big of a room are these going in, and what will they be driven by?

    Is there flexibility in placement out in the room?

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
  • steveinazsteveinaz Posts: 17,831
    edited May 25
    Tony--
    Yes, replacements for the harbeths. Ready to get back to the "weight" and scale of a floorstander. I'd love to have the harbeth midrange/treble, but ready for something more dynamic with better bass. I can never quite integrate a sub (this was my 2nd attempt), and find satisfaction going that route, so the SVS is gonna sell as well. I have had a few towers that dug plenty deep for me. Seems to me there is a biq "sweet-spot" for outstanding towers in the $3500-$4000 bracket.

    So far, I really like the suggestion of the Focal Aria 936's. Of course Revel's are always on my watch list. I have looked extensively at Golden Ear, but I cannot get past the cheeseball construction/sock grill thing, so they are a non-starter. I also don't like powered woofers in passive speakers--I don't have a dazzling argument, just not my cup of tea.
    Source: Oppo BDP-103/USB HDD | Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2L | Power Amp: Parasound HCA-1500A | Speakers: PSB Imagine T2 | Cables: Kimber Hero/8TC; DH Labs D-75 | AC Power: Panamax M5300-PM
  • steveinazsteveinaz Posts: 17,831
    edited May 25
    Erik Tracy wrote: »
    How big of a room are these going in, and what will they be driven by?

    Is there flexibility in placement out in the room?

    Room is approx 26' x 18', 10ft ceilings; listening area in the first 1/2 of the room, with system on the 18' wall. Seating will be about 10-12ft from the rack.

    Here's a pic of the family room end of the great room:

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    The dining room end:

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    Source: Oppo BDP-103/USB HDD | Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2L | Power Amp: Parasound HCA-1500A | Speakers: PSB Imagine T2 | Cables: Kimber Hero/8TC; DH Labs D-75 | AC Power: Panamax M5300-PM
  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 8,150
    Why not any on the used market. I have had great luck with posting "want ads"

    Dealers will usually chime in and sell their demo models

    You could step up a notch in the line of your choice..i.e. Focal Electra 1028 Be
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures, Simaudio 780D DAC
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Modwright LS100, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers
  • Erik TracyErik Tracy Posts: 4,691
    I still vividly remember how impressed I was with Spatial Audio's M3 Turbo at THE SHOW last year.

    And also the Salk Song Tower - plenty of dynamic slam and balance.

    I'm going to the LA Audio show next week - I'm going to revisit Spatial's room.

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
  • steveinazsteveinaz Posts: 17,831
    edited May 25
    Here's my beef going used:
    1. Everything today is in "excellent condition" (but not really)
    2. I'm a fussy SOB
    3. People tend to "tinker" and I don't want a tinkered-with speaker
    4. You have to be at the right place, at the right time to get the speaker you're after
    5. There's plenty of great choices (new) in the $4k and under bracket IMO

    Having said that, I got LUCKY with the Harbeth's. The guy just happened to be in Arizona, and the speakers were absolutely perfect---even the bottoms, which sometimes look like hell on a used monitor. Plus, the price was outstanding.
    Source: Oppo BDP-103/USB HDD | Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2L | Power Amp: Parasound HCA-1500A | Speakers: PSB Imagine T2 | Cables: Kimber Hero/8TC; DH Labs D-75 | AC Power: Panamax M5300-PM
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 3,602
    steveinaz wrote: »
    Tony--
    Yes, replacements for the harbeths. Ready to get back to the "weight" and scale of a floorstander. I'd love to have the harbeth midrange/treble, but ready for something more dynamic with better bass. I can never quite integrate a sub (this was my 2nd attempt), and find satisfaction going that route, so the SVS is gonna sell as well.

    I thought I remembered you being pretty happy with the integration of the SVS? Was that just initial excitement that faded?

    I LOVE my 703s, so I would love to hear the towers. But they are the nicest speaks I have ever owned (or even heard really), so I am sure there are lots of other, better options out there.

    And I also do think you should be open to dealer demos and likely used gear. Weren't your Harbeth's used?
    HT Rig:
    Yamaha RX-A1010; Parasound HCA-1000a; Arcam rDac; Mains: PSB Imagine Mini + MartinLogan Dynamo (original) sub; Center - Def Tech Procenter 1000; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - SVS PB10-ISD; Sony BDP-S390, FireTV gen 2

    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Audiosource Amp Two, Dynaudio Emit 10, NHT Super One CI, ACI Titan subwoofer, FireTV, Arcam rDac; Bryson BPD-1
  • ManticoreManticore Posts: 145
    Nice open floor plan. Looks great. It will probably take floor speakers over bookies to fill that room the way you want...all the way to the kitchen.
    Especially like that soffit type ceiling. Great for sound.
    Happy speaker hunting.
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    Parasound HCA 1500A amplifier
    Adcom GFA 555 amplifier
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    Samsung BD J5100
    Denon DVM 4800
    Denon DP 3000 turntable
    Saec 308sx tonearm w/
    Dynavector 20A2 cart
    NAD pp 4 Phono Preamp
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    Polk CSi A6
    Polk RTiA 3's
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    Polk DSW PRO 440wi sub
    Infinity bu2 sub
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 27,489
    edited May 25
    Gotcha Steve....The Salks are a good suggestion. Dynamics, bass slam with no sub....in a room that big...Gotta throw the Legacy Focus HD's in the mix. You won't find them new for 4k, but maybe a demo pair. You'll forget about subwoofers with those. The Dynes and the Focals are also good rock speakers.

    I know you plan on keeping the same amp, and that would be a good match with any of the 4 brands mentioned as well.
    legacy Focus 20/20
    Butler tdb 2250
    Cary Xciter dac
    Joule LA-100
    Pioneer BDP 320
    Sony 4k 55 850c
    FX 500 surround
    Acoustic zen Satori SC's
    Pioneer elite vsx21
    Sonos-Cullen mod.
    Audio Metallurgy GA-0 digital
    PS Audio Quintet
    Analysis Plus crystal ovals
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2's IC
  • steveinazsteveinaz Posts: 17,831
    Thanks Tony.
    Source: Oppo BDP-103/USB HDD | Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2L | Power Amp: Parasound HCA-1500A | Speakers: PSB Imagine T2 | Cables: Kimber Hero/8TC; DH Labs D-75 | AC Power: Panamax M5300-PM
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 16,351
    Or wait a couple months until the new SDA line comes out....

    How "confirmed" is this John? I have seen some cryptic messages from them on social media lately that point to this.

    It's not, just wishful thinking.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Walker Precision Motor Drive with ClearAudio Titanium v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X1 two channel preamplifier Signed by Poppa himself, Pioneer PDD 9MkII SACD Player, Pass Labs Xono twin chassis phono preamplifier, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo BDP-95 Bluray, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds


    Men are like a very fine wine. They start off as grapes, and it takes the love of a Woman to stomp the crap out of them in order to make them something modestly acceptable to have dinner with...
  • JstasJstas Posts: 13,511
    https://www.kefdirect.com/speakers/hi-fi-speakers/r-series/r700-floorstanding-loudspeaker.html

    http://us.kef.com/r700

    900x900_r700_blk.jpg

    They come in black, white and walnut. The walnut looks sharp.

    I'd recommend the R900's but they'll be almost a grand outside of your dictated price range.

    My first thought here would be the Polk LSiM707's.

    I have 703's and they knock everyone's socks off.

    The KEF's are very neutral in regards to gear and every KEF I've had has been relatively easy to drive so almost any amplification will work. My favorite amp to use with my iQ9's is one of my New Audio Dimensions jobs. KEF and NAD pair well together. Polk and NAD pair well together as well.
    You're just jealous 'cause the voices don't talk to you!
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