Parasound HCA1200 vs HCA 1200ii

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Couple HCA1200 on CL, not the "ii."

Currently have an HCA1000A, i like it a lot on my Paradigms, but it would suggested that it may not be up to the task of the RT16s.

Any reason why it's inferior to the "ii" or what i should not buy it for $300?
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  • codycatalist
    codycatalist Posts: 2,662
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    Hmm I wonder why it wouldn't be "up to the task" with the RT16s. 200 watts, plenty of current, warmer sound.

    I don't see what wouldn't work with that pair.
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
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    I'm not sure. I think it had to do with my comments about the RT16s not "waking up" until there was a good amount of volume going on. More than i typically casually use my system with.
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    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
  • codycatalist
    codycatalist Posts: 2,662
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    I'm not sure. I think it had to do with my comments about the RT16s not "waking up" until there was a good amount of volume going on. More than i typically casually use my system with.

    Hmm, I wonder if they are hard to drive. I think I read somewhere they are 90db/w which isn't too bad, I am "subscribing" to this thread for some knowledge bombs that are about to be dropped on us.
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,625
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    HCA-1200 Specifications Specifications subject to change without notice.
    Continuous Power output - stereo
    200 watts RMS x 2, 20Hz-20kHz, 8 W
    300 watts RMS x 2, 20Hz-20kHz, 4 W
    Continuous Power output - mono
    600 watts RMS, 20Hz-20kHz, 8 W
    600 watts RMS, 20Hz-20kHz, 4 W
    Current Capacity
    40 amperes continuous
    57 amperes peak, up to 200msec.
    Slew Rate
    100V/msecond
    Frequency response
    8Hz-90kHz, +0/-3dB
    Total Harmonic Distortion
    < 0.08% at full power
    < 0.03% typical levels
    TIM
    Unmeasurable
    IM distortion
    < 0.1%
    Dynamic Headroom
    > 1.5dB
    Input impedance
    30 kW
    S/N ratio
    >110dB, input shorted, IHF A weighted
    Damping factor
    Over 120 at 20Hz
    Dimensions
    17 1/4" wide x 5 1/2" high x 12" deep; 19" wide using RMK-1000 rack mount
    Weight
    38 lbs.
    Special Features
    •1kVA toroid power transformer
    •60,000mfd gold capacitors in power supply
    •60MHz output transistors, in AB mode
    •Cascode Class A J-FET input stage




    HCA-1200II spec's

    • THX certified by Lucasfilm Ltd.
    • Massive 1kVA power transformer
    • 60,000µF computer-grade capacitors in power supply
    • Multiple polystyrene film bypass capacitors in power supply
    • Cascode Class A input stages with matched J-FET pairs
    • Hand picked MOSFETs in high voltage driver stage
    • 10 pairs of 50MHz, 15 ampere bipolar output transistors
    • Output transistors direct-coupled to speakers without LRC network
    • DC servo direct-coupled audio circuits with 3Hz roll off
    • Linear tracking, instantaneous-acting DC servos
    • High-bias Class AB operation
    • Gold-plated metal structure RCA input jacks
    • Multiple temperature sensors and silver-cadmium relay protection
    • FR-4 glass epoxy circuit boards, double-sided for precision
    • Proprietary quick-settling bias circuit obviates warmup period
    • Custom designed audiophile-grade AC power cord.

    Parasound HCA-1200II Specifications

    Continuous Power Output - Stereo
    205 watts RMS x 2, 20Hz-20kHz, 8 Ω, both channels driven
    315 watts RMS x 2, 20Hz-20kHz, 4 Ω, both channels driven
    Continuous Power Output - Mono
    625 watts RMS, 20Hz-201kHz, 8 Ω

    Current Capacity
    40 amperes continuous
    57 amperes peak

    Slew Rate
    >130V/µsecond

    Frequency Response
    8Hz-150kHz, +0/-3dB at 1 watt

    Total Harmonic Distortion
    < 0.06% at full power
    < 0.03% typical levels

    TIM
    Unmeasurable

    IM Distortion
    < 0.04%

    Dynamic Headroom
    > 2dB

    lnterchannel Crosstalk
    > 80dB at 1kHz
    > 63dB at 10kHz

    lnput lmpedance
    42kΩ

    lnput Sensitivity
    1.4V for rated output
    1.0V for 28.28V output, THX reference level

    S/N Ratio
    > 110dB, input shorted, IHF A weighted

    Damping Factor
    > 600 at 20Hz

    Dimensions
    19" wide x 5.5 high x 13" deep

    Weight
    37 lbs. net
  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
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    Yeah 90db was mentioned in my thread, which is pretty much exactly what my Paradigms are (possibly "better") but they are taking a bit more to get going. Normal listening level on the Paradigms is -28db on the preamp. Same for RT16s is -20db, but they don't start to sound "good" until -14db. Then -10db is way too damn loud.

    I noticed the Paradigms came alive earlier when i moved from the old Onkyo M5150 to the HCA1000A, so i can believe that maybe the HCA1200 would be an improvement, but i'm also not interested in a more failure-prone or sonically "dirty" amp than what i've got.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000