Classical Music Fans - Can You Help Me To Find Something, Please?

msgmsg Posts: 2,852
I was reading an article the other week about Steve Jobs, and there were some photos of him hanging out listening to music. They pulled a list of the albums he was listening to from the photo. One of them was this
Jean-Pierre Rampal, Maurice André, Bach*, Paillard Chamber Orchestra*, Jean-François Paillard ‎– Brandenburg Concertos Complete
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I found and ordered the album, and it cleaned up okay. It's a sweet and pleasing vinyl listening experience, but would like to have a digital copy, as well, for work, or background listening, so I don't have to pay attention to record side changes while working around the house. I know next to nothing of classical, except that I enjoy the Baroque period pieces. Do any of you know where I can find either this, or a close comparable/similar recording?

Also, if you can recommend some other recordings/pieces that would be a good for someone new to classical, I'd greatly appreciate it.

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For those interested, the three identifiable albums in the Steve Jobs photo were:
  • Bach Brandenberg Concertos (Jean-Pierre Rampal, Maurice André; RCA)
  • Ella Fitzgerald: The Cole Porter Songbook (Vol. 1, Verve)
  • Steely Dan's Aja (ABC)
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  • msgmsg Posts: 2,852
    I searched Tidal for Bach Brandenburg Concertos and found a whole bunch. Seems a popular collection/performance, but how does this work? Are there better orchestras? Should any of these performances sound the same? What are the differences to look for?
  • voltzvoltz Posts: 4,370
    I'm still new to Classical. but AJA is my Favorite Steely Dan!

    Ella Fitzgerald: The Cole Porter Songbook is nice!

    I am a fan of the Nutcracker Suite.
  • msgmsg Posts: 2,852
    Hey man, whatever you do on the weekends is fine by me. I accept all my friends unconditionally.

    I need to check out the Ella Fitzgerald.
    I tried the Steely Dan. Man, I don't know, must be something wrong with me. I couldn't really get into it. I liked that Josie track though.
  • The late Jean-Pierre Rampal was one of the most popular classical flute players, another was James Galway. Other versions of the Brandenburg Concertos (often recorded with Bach's Orchestral Suites and violin concertos) try The Academy of St. Martin in the Field (middle of the road performance - interpretation), or for period instruments, Trevor Pinnock/The English Concert or Musica Antiqua Koln. These are all up at Spotify (Spotify has an excellent free version - 160kps streaming and $10 monthly pay version - $10 per month, 320kps). Spotify has a huge classical collection.

    The album in your post has French musicians on it. Maurice Andre was one of the top classical trumpet players.

    Just about all of Steely Dan is up at Spotify.
  • K_MK_M Posts: 781
    msg wrote: »
    Hey man, whatever you do on the weekends is fine by me. I accept all my friends unconditionally.

    I need to check out the Ella Fitzgerald.
    I tried the Steely Dan. Man, I don't know, must be something wrong with me. I couldn't really get into it. I liked that Josie track though.

    I kinda felt the same way, when I tried them out on Spotify.
    Nothing bad, but not a lot grabbed me either.

    I had heard they were "Jazz" sounding, but it was more of a slight connection to jazz, more to me like soft rock.
  • SCompRacerSCompRacer Posts: 6,362
    msg wrote: »
    I tried the Steely Dan. Man, I don't know, must be something wrong with me. I couldn't really get into it. I liked that Josie track though.

    You are not alone. Plenty of ink about why they don't appeal, pick an article and identify with it. ;)

    I spun Gaucho for a friend and he loved it. He went out and bought their entire catalog, only to find he didn't like any of the earlier stuff. Gaucho is my favorite, yet I like all their previous albums.

  • voltzvoltz Posts: 4,370
    Will I guess I won't mention "Donald Fagen's * Morph The Cat* :p
  • MrBuhlMrBuhl Posts: 1,775
    SCompRacer wrote: »
    msg wrote: »

    I spun Gaucho for a friend and he loved it. He went out and bought their entire catalog, only to find he didn't like any of the earlier stuff. Gaucho is my favorite, yet I like all their previous albums.

    +1 on Gaucho, my fav as well, courtesy of our very own @voltz
  • msgmsg Posts: 2,852
    Rich, wow, I wouldn't have thought for a second there'd be so much Steely Dan negativity out there, but you were weren't kidding - it's not even hard to find!
  • voltzvoltz Posts: 4,370
    How about some "Sunken Condos"s ;)
  • msgmsg Posts: 2,852
    If they're anything like Battling Aardvarks From Siberia, I'm all for it.
  • voltzvoltz Posts: 4,370
    BTW you have it on your PC B)
  • msgmsg Posts: 2,852
    Did you hack me again? Dern it Durl.
  • SCompRacerSCompRacer Posts: 6,362
    msg wrote: »
    Rich, wow, I wouldn't have thought for a second there'd be so much Steely Dan negativity out there, but you were weren't kidding - it's not even hard to find!

    My second fav is The Royal Scam. Carlton's contribution is one reason.

    Classical wise give Rimsky-Korsakov: Scheherazade a try. Knowing the story makes it easier to interpret the music. I have a Telarc on vinyl.

  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 4,595
    Listen to Steely Dan Two Against Nature on Tidal Masters. It KICKS!!

    Steely Dan are a bit like Zappa.... you either get it or you don't. Not comparing them, but you have to understand it to get it.
  • ROHfanROHfan Posts: 1,001
    An odd selection, but one worth buying, would be "Bachbusters" by Don Dorsey. It's a Bach compilation CD being played solely on the earlier Moog synthesizers. Very different, with some awesome renditions of Bach's most popular pieces. Dorsey also has one for Beethoven, "Beethoven or Bust."
  • andrew82andrew82 Posts: 134
    Good for you getting into classical; I hope that you're enjoying the journey!

    I've been a big fan of classical my entire life. It can be intimidating finding good recordings and performers of classical music starting out. My advice: when you find something you like, look at the other records put out by that conductor/orchestra and the recording company. You'll likely find much more that you like.

    I've given you a few albums below that I keep in the rotation, or have recently found. All fantastic. I hope you enjoy them.

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    This is my favorite Brandenburg right now. Pretty consistent with most performances, but really well done. I like the horns in this.

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    Maybe my favorite classical recording for late mornings. I love Handel, and I love Pinnock. If you like this, Pinnock has a Brandenburg concertos that is highly regarded, and quite excellent.

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    One of a set of volumes. Excellent piano music for the morning.

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    Recently released (a few years). Just an incredible pianist. Three composes for he price of one. The Goldberg Variations are sort of a right of passage as well.

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    Another important piece to experience. This recording is not performed "by the book," but is all the better for it. This is an exciting interpretation.

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    Simply superb. If you're in the mood for Bach, load this up and let it play. She does impart her own style to this.

    Anyway, that's more than enough for now I think! Always happy to talk classical if you're ever looking for more or want to share some of your discoveries.
  • msgmsg Posts: 2,852
    Wow, thanks a lot for these recommendations, Andrew! I'll check them out. These and the others I've gotten (not that Steely Dan stuff; jes keeding guys) ought to keep me busy for a while.

    Good tip on the composer/orchestra and recording company. Had a couple of chats here and there re: the genre and seems like the people into it say similar - can be a bit difficult getting going, and to do what you say on finding more stuff.

  • schwarcwschwarcw Posts: 7,059
    You may want to listen to "Tutti". A classical sampler by the Minnesota Orchestra, Eiji Oue and others by Reference Recordings on SACD or HDCD. Check out here: https://referencerecordings.com/recording/tutti-orchestral-sampler/
  • msgmsg Posts: 2,852
    Getting around to listening to some of this stuff while kicking around doing stuff around the house today. Added all of your recommendations in Tidal and created a playlist, and have most of the Squeezeboxii playing. It'll be a day of classical familiarization, and I'll be sure to give all of this new-to-me music a proper listen over the next few weeks, probably mostly under headphones at work. Enjoying the exploration so far - thanks for the recommendations guys. All the thoughts, perspectives and recommendations have been very helpful so far in helping me gather some material to check out.

    The Tutti sampler was last in and first up. It's funny, quite a bit of it sounds familiar. Probably heard most of it in films and Bugs Bunny cartoons over the years.

    Prime example of why it can be overwhelming; see attached - listings for Handel's Water Music. Btw, thanks for posting the covers! That's very helpful in quickly tracking these albums down in searches.

    Also, THIS piece is friggin' AMAZING!!! Wow!
    Laughing with near excitement - this stuff reminds me of scenes out of an Indiana Jones film, some combination of humorous goings on, into dramatic poignant pause, developing into classic harrowing chase scene.
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    Also, the low frequency range of some of this stuff, wow. Just so very dynamic!
  • SCompRacerSCompRacer Posts: 6,362
    edited May 28
    schwarcw wrote: »
    You may want to listen to "Tutti".

    Good suggestion! Completely forgot about it.

    You like pipe organ music? Bach? Not everyone does.

    Michael Murray, The Great Organ at Methuen - Bach. No, it's not a p o r n flick. This is one of the reasons I added two 12 subs to my large listening space (over 10,000 cubic feet). Makes a huge difference to have that 25 - 35Hz range at +- 3dB with this recording. (Or dubstep). I have it on vinyl.

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    If you want to jump to sample tracks, time listed to advance to.

    1. Fantasia And Fugure, 11:30
    2. Toccata, 8:16
    3. Passacaglia And Fugue, 14:35
    4. Vater Unser Im Himmelreich, 2:24
    5. Alle Menschen Mussen Sterben, 2:27

    This is it, Methuen Memorial Music Hall, Methuen, MA.

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  • EmlynEmlyn Posts: 1,773
    The Paillard recordings of the Brandenberg Concertos came out on CD in 2015. Different cover than the original vinyl version, but Amazon has it...

    https://www.amazon.com/Bach-JS-Brandenburg-Concertos-2CD/dp/B00V8V4588/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1496012482&sr=8-4&keywords=rampal+brandenburg+concertos
  • ManticoreManticore Posts: 86
    Wow, Murray sounds fantastic. Always loved the sound of the organ. Really liked 2. Toccata, &
    3. Passacaglia And Fugue Real interesting music.
  • I'm gonna toss a fellow Scandinavian into the mix: Garrick Ohlsson. He recently finished recording Beethoven's Piano Sonata Cycle. He is probably best known for his Chopin recordings. Early in his career he won the Chopin recital at Warsaw, Poland.

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    Spotify has a fantastic classical collection, and you can audition different artists, conductors/orchestras por nada before buying the CD or hi def audio file.

    Craig Sheppard has taught at the Univ of WA and performed Beethoven's Piano Sonatas live in several concerts. This is a great live cycle and can be bought for less at Craig's website vs. Amazon.

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  • K_MK_M Posts: 781
    edited June 3
    Listen to Steely Dan Two Against Nature on Tidal Masters. It KICKS!!

    Steely Dan are a bit like Zappa.... you either get it or you don't. Not comparing them, but you have to understand it to get it.

    I think I understand Steely Dan, but as to "getting it", uh maybe a bit, but just maybe not my cup of tea.
    It was far less Jazz than I was lead to believe, but neither was it rock, which I can relate to at times.
    I am not sure that I "disliked" it so much, but did not feel it grabbed me really.

    I liked some of the music, several songs, and certain parts of their stuff for sure, but I guess I felt like something was missing, as if they were distant or not connecting with me.
    Hard to describe the feeling, but I got the sense of fairly well playing musicians, doing music for themselves, that just did not click with me in any personal level.

    None of the lyrics seemed to do anything, other than be clever mostly. None were bad, mind you, but they just felt disconnected from any reality I live in.

    But of course I love Diana Krall, and many hate her...!
  • I mostly associate Steely Dan with their Aja lp. That LP (plus Fleetwood Mac Rumors and Hotel CA) were very popular in the college dorms. it was a huge LP for Steely Dan. Everything they did in the 70s was in studio and they did not tour.
  • K_MK_M Posts: 781
    I mostly associate Steely Dan with their Aja lp. That LP (plus Fleetwood Mac Rumors and Hotel CA) were very popular in the college dorms. it was a huge LP for Steely Dan. Everything they did in the 70s was in studio and they did not tour.

    All of those came out before I was born... :'(



  • There were many performers from the late 70s that were popular then and now have dropped off the radar. Here are two that were popular then (pop music comes and goes):

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    Dave Mason was in a band called Traffic (along with Steve Winwood).
    K_M wrote: »
    I mostly associate Steely Dan with their Aja lp. That LP (plus Fleetwood Mac Rumors and Hotel CA) were very popular in the college dorms. it was a huge LP for Steely Dan. Everything they did in the 70s was in studio and they did not tour.

    All of those came out before I was born... :'(

  • msgmsg Posts: 2,852
    Jeez, man, did you have to post that Dream Weaver album cover so big? :s :p B)
    Like something out of that 80's version of Flash Gordon, minus to the cool.
  • Just being able to copy and paste a picture is a major accomplishment. But being able to size and crop pics? That could possibly cause bodily damage that I'm not prepared to sustain (at least my own body, it is beat up too much already).
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