Cheap way to play flac, wav, mp3 without a computer

erniejadeerniejade Posts: 3,631
I have a friend in MN that has a bit of land. He has a garage system that is away from the house and no wifi in the garage. Is there a cheap player that he can hook up to his receiver and play flac, wav, and mp3 without having wifi? A unit that would have its own display, and not needing a cell or ipad to control it? Now blutooth might work from his cell if the unit can be controlled via blutooth.

Since its a garage setup, he does not want to spend too much money on it. Otherwise, I think his only other option will be a small cheap desktop with cheap dac might be his solution but, I wanted to check to see if there was something else. If he had wifi in the garage, I think an Aries Mini would have fit the bill perfectly since it can have an internal drive.
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  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 14,192
    edited May 12
    Aries Mini + Basic Router (without internet connected) + phone.

    He can create a garage network that is solely for controlling the Aries when he is out there. Thenhe just connects his phone or whatever device to it to control music playback from the minis internal drive.

    I think @voltz or someone does just that and posted about it.
  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 3,631
    Now that's a good idea. I just need to see if he will go for $500 basically. Well maybe a little more since he would need an ipad or iphone. He still has a flip phone BUT his kids and wife have Iphones.
  • FiiO makes low cost dacs and dac/music players sold thru Amazon. They can use up to 128 gb micro SD cards. Amazon sells them:

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    this unit costs $170 brand new

    Product description (from Amazon)
    Color:Black

    The black X3 (2nd Gen) from Fiio is a portable high resolution audio player and USB-DAC for audio enthusiasts. The unit features an audiophile grade architecture and premium components capable of playing files up to 24-bit/192 kHz in a variety of formats including native DSD, WAV, WMA, ALAC, FLAC, APE, AIFF, and more. The X3-II utilizes a Cirrus Logic CS4398 DAC coupled to a finely tuned low-pass filter offering extremely low noise and phase distortion. Additionally, the tantalum capacitors in the analog circuit provide minimal internal resistance for the best uncolored sound. Dual crystal oscillators ensure the lowest jitter and highest precision playback of music at any sample rate, eliminating conversion artifacts.

    The player offers a standard 1/8" / 3.5mm headphone output and a separate line out/digital (coaxial) out via 1/8" / 3.5 mm. The X3II has no on-board memory, but uses a microSD card slot supporting up to 128 GB. The 2600 mAh Li-polymer battery provides up to 11 hours of playback under normal conditions. The user interface (UI) offers six unique themes, while the classic scroll wheel and 2.0" TFT display offer easy navigation, which supports browsing and playback via folders, songs, albums, artists, genres, favorites, and playlists. The 10-band graphic EQ and the 120-step digital volume control allow for custom tailored sound and levels. The chassis is made of aluminum alloy and features a high reflectance fine-grain faceplate. The X3-II ships with a 3' / 1m high-current micro-USB data/charging cable, an 1/8" / 3.5mm coaxial S/PDIF adapter, a hard-shell case, two screen protectors (1 applied in-factory), and a set of three Bodywork stickers (USA flag, wood grain, and carbon fiber).


    This could be hooked up to a receiver via mini rca 3.5 mm out

    There is also the FiiO X1 that sells for $100 and the X5 that sells for $215

  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 3,631
    Cool idea but a little too small. He has a about a TB of music.
  • DollarDaveDollarDave Posts: 2,440
    I suggest one of these - http://jriver.com/Id/
  • erniejade wrote: »
    Cool idea but a little too small. He has a about a TB of music.

    Some of the reviews at Amazon say the player can handle over 200gb micro sd cards. He could load a TB onto several cards and just rotate thru them.

    Amazon also has low cost computers, refurb computers, and used ones. A two TB external drive at Amazon goes for around $70 or more. The PC may be the better route.
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 12,901
    $500 doesn't include a drive which jumps that cost up. I don't think the Aries Mini is a good fit for this. As far as the iPhone issue for AURALiC, I have some good news for you Apple haters to be shared soon.
  • LegenderLegender Posts: 263
    edited May 12
    I'd vote for the cheap PC route and include either a new internal 2TB internal drive that you can clone from the original and then add your music to it, or an external drive. Fry's has refurbished units all the time for about $200, or ebay is a good source. I purchased a refurbished Core I7 for about $300 and it works great as my new desktop/music source. I am running out to a DAC via USB which helps a lot but not sure you'd need that type of audio clarity in a garage setup.

    oops, then I re-read and see the without a computer part... ignore my suggestion completely.
  • recoveryonerecoveryone Posts: 439
    I am with Legender, you can get a small form factor unit (Dell's) on ebay dirt cheap under $100 running P4 duo cores with win7 installed. With that much music (1-2 TB ) you will be hard to find a handheld device that can handle that much data along with a display to view whats playing. Sometimes you just have to choose what you need and what you want.
  • EmlynEmlyn Posts: 1,773
    Not having WiFi in that location limits options for any device that is not a computer having mass storage capability and a built in display that is usable. I would just use an old Windows 7 laptop with JRiver and an external plug in Western Digital 2TB USB hard drive. Easy to carry it back inside if it gets cold or take it on trips with headphones.
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 12,901
    Does he have a smart device to control something?
  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 1,066
    edited May 12
    DSkip wrote: »
    $500 doesn't include a drive which jumps that cost up. I don't think the Aries Mini is a good fit for this. As far as the iPhone issue for AURALiC, I have some good news for you Apple haters to be shared soon.

    HUH????? And, I don't hate Apple...I DISPISE them. Loathe and abhor could be used here as well.
  • cfrizzcfrizz Posts: 12,553
    ^Tell us how you really feel. LOL.
  • cfrizz wrote: »
    ^Tell us how you really feel. LOL.

    Hopefully, everyone should know that name of the real evil empire - I will not go soft on micro.
  • Google Chrome web browser is a close second. After Firefox crashed and would not run, I then got Chrome on my Dell and it seems to be entirely defenseless against malware. I then had problems with Firefox on my new computer and installed Chrome. The last week Windows Defender began stopping different malware numerous times. Yesterday, each time it quarantined and I deleted some malware, that same stuff hit my computer in less than a minute. - about 50 times. So, I went online and got the latest version of Firefox, got some new anti-virus software, and Firefox actually works now and even lets me post pics in the what music are you listening to thread. Today, even though Google Chrome was not open, it got attacked twice more and lit up on my task-bar. So, I deleted Google Chrome. If Firefox is buggy like the last time I may be stuck going with MS Edge or finding another browser.
  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 2,915
    erniejade, what exactly is in his system?
  • msgmsg Posts: 2,852
    Google Chrome web browser is a close second. After Firefox crashed and would not run, I then got Chrome on my Dell and it seems to be entirely defenseless against malware. I then had problems with Firefox on my new computer and installed Chrome. The last week Windows Defender began stopping different malware numerous times. Yesterday, each time it quarantined and I deleted some malware, that same stuff hit my computer in less than a minute. - about 50 times. So, I went online and got the latest version of Firefox, got some new anti-virus software, and Firefox actually works now and even lets me post pics in the what music are you listening to thread. Today, even though Google Chrome was not open, it got attacked twice more and lit up on my task-bar. So, I deleted Google Chrome. If Firefox is buggy like the last time I may be stuck going with MS Edge or finding another browser.

    Can't disagree more.
    Nothing wrong with Microsoft (OS, not IE)
    Nothing wrong with Chrome.
    Nothing wrong with Firefox.
    Apple's good, too, but not immune like people think.

    Can't expect a browser to protect you against malware. That's not its job. If you're getting hit that often with malware, there's something else going on, or you've got dormant malware or had something that wasn't completely removed.

    Sorry for furthering the OT, but felt this warranted attention.

    Now back to your regularly scheduled programming already in progress...
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 12,901
    I do have a Denon HEOS Link I would let go of cheap. Might be a great solution for him.
  • voltzvoltz Posts: 4,370
    edited May 12
    I take it he want to use loud speakers?

    otherwise I'd say a Fiio X5 with good headphones and maybe with a headphone amp but now your getting close to the price of a Auralic Mini/DAC with a internal SSD and I have a X5 and a mini and just don't like try to use a X5 as the source. X3 is cheaper

    the mini cost $499 + 150 for a 500 gig SSD =650 but your want a IPOD or Ipad to control it so if he already had one then maybe this is a solution.

    Just my thoughts! and I love my Auralic Mini :) Skip is your go to man here!
  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 3,631
    afterburnt wrote: »
    erniejade, what exactly is in his system?

    Real garage system denon receiver old technics speakers, onkyo turntable, Yammy cd player.

    Skip let me look up the Denon HEOS . I am not exactly sure what it is.

  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 3,631
    With the Heos link, he would still need a cheap router and pad or phone to control yes?
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 12,901
    Yep. Regardless of the route his hang up is going to be the controlling aspect. It's just how digital files work.
  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 2,915
    erniejade wrote: »
    afterburnt wrote: »
    erniejade, what exactly is in his system?

    Real garage system denon receiver old technics speakers, onkyo turntable, Yammy cd player.

    Skip let me look up the Denon HEOS . I am not exactly sure what it is.

    If there is no USB, maybe a more modern receiver and a portable HDD?
  • deronb1deronb1 Posts: 3,587
    Well geez, i had a marantz na 7004 for sale here for 250 shipped. Accepts up to 2TB HD. Plays FLAC as well as most others
  • nbrowsernbrowser Posts: 6,264
    erniejade wrote: »
    I have a friend in MN that has a bit of land. He has a garage system that is away from the house and no wifi in the garage. Is there a cheap player that he can hook up to his receiver and play flac, wav, and mp3 without having wifi? A unit that would have its own display, and not needing a cell or ipad to control it? Now blutooth might work from his cell if the unit can be controlled via blutooth.

    Since its a garage setup, he does not want to spend too much money on it. Otherwise, I think his only other option will be a small cheap desktop with cheap dac might be his solution but, I wanted to check to see if there was something else. If he had wifi in the garage, I think an Aries Mini would have fit the bill perfectly since it can have an internal drive.

    Honestly, cheapest and easiest...used desktop PC off of CL with an external HD that can be loaded up in the house...seriously can be done for peanuts.
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 14,192
    edited May 12
    If he had a smartphone I'd just say add a Bluetooth adapter for the Denon and then use Plex on the phone to access music and send to stereo.

    Not hi-fi BUT still fun
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 27,202
    nbrowser wrote: »
    erniejade wrote: »
    I have a friend in MN that has a bit of land. He has a garage system that is away from the house and no wifi in the garage. Is there a cheap player that he can hook up to his receiver and play flac, wav, and mp3 without having wifi? A unit that would have its own display, and not needing a cell or ipad to control it? Now blutooth might work from his cell if the unit can be controlled via blutooth.

    Since its a garage setup, he does not want to spend too much money on it. Otherwise, I think his only other option will be a small cheap desktop with cheap dac might be his solution but, I wanted to check to see if there was something else. If he had wifi in the garage, I think an Aries Mini would have fit the bill perfectly since it can have an internal drive.

    Honestly, cheapest and easiest...used desktop PC off of CL with an external HD that can be loaded up in the house...seriously can be done for peanuts.

    This ^^^

    Maybe a cheapo laptop also. Add a external storage device and a Dragonfly and your done.

    The newer receiver idea is also good, but navigating by the screen on an AVR can be aggravating unless there's an app for his phone.

    BTW....how far is his garage from the house exactly ?
  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 3,631
    About 1/4 acre.
    I think your right on with me talking him into a cheap desktop or laptop and a cheap usb dac like the dragonfly Tony mentioned. I will give him a ring tomorrow.
  • pkquatpkquat Posts: 422
    edited May 14
    It sounds like the Denon does not have a digital input. If it did, my only alternative would be a BD player that can support a HD and FLAC, and maybe there is an old TV around. I am doing that now for some stuff. My samsung BD was about $80. I think you can find used ones for less. The era of 3D and internet upgradeable firmware should be upgradeable to FLAC.

    Otherwise +1 for the cheap used computer.
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