Monoprice's new Engineered and Patented Monolith RCA on order

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  • jeremymarcinkojeremymarcinko Posts: 2,800
    Unless it's value engineering.
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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 23,460
    I think it's "Ultimate Engineering"
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 15,241
    edited April 6
    Emlyn wrote: »
    Looks like 95 percent of those cables is plastic, cotton fiber stuffing, and foil. Sort of like Monster Cable made a killing with. At least they did not call them a Reference product, just their Ultimate. I thought Monoprice was all about engineering in audio cables being a waste of money.
    So Reference is above Ultimate in the marketing jargon lexicon? Just want to be sure that I am properly calibrated, you know?

    PS -- nice to see you posting over here.
    Unless it's value engineering.

    Perhaps maybe even "Muntzing"?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muntzing

    In seriousness (well, sort of) -- I mean, if they're $15 wires... how bad could they be? Even if they're audibly indistinguishable from the $5 kind, the aesthetic improvement is probably worth a sawbuck. The price of the Ethereal cables is identical, it appears, based on the accessories4less link.

    Maybe a shoot-out would be appropriate.

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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 23,460
    Yes, for $15 a pair I bet they are excellent............hardly Ultimate I'd guess. They certainly look like they will be better than any of those cheapies included with gear these days.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 15,241
    Heck, maybe I'll start a hifi company and leverage truth in marketing with my first product:

    Penultimate Interconnects.
    Not Ultimate, but the next best thing.

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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 27,761
    Marketing kids....the words "Monolith" and "Ultimate", catches more fish than actual product quality. Plus the price makes them "Giant killers". I'm pretty sure Audioholics will be singing their praises soon. Time to sell your MIT cables and buy these, pocket the change. While your at it, sell those Pass amps too because Monoprice has Giant killer amps as well.

    Which btw, I just noticed the emoji with the eyes rolling is gone. I'm on top of things for sure huh. WTF ?
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 15,241
    tonyb wrote: »
    Marketing kids....the words "Monolith" and "Ultimate", catches more fish than actual product quality. Plus the price makes them "Giant killers". I'm pretty sure Audioholics will be singing their praises soon. Time to sell your MIT cables and buy these, pocket the change. While your at it, sell those Pass amps too because Monoprice has Giant killer amps as well.

    Note my current avatar is "Monolithic" :)
    Which btw, I just noticed the emoji with the eyes rolling is gone. I'm on top of things for sure huh. WTF ?

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    (Note to self -- do not search Google for 'emoji' again without being prepared for the worst)

    ;)

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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 8,041
    they look to me like every other RCA ground shield grip of death interconnect I've ever had....
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 15,241
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    they look to me like every other RCA ground shield grip of death interconnect I've ever had....

    I once found a Marantz integrated amp on the freebie table at the semi-annual NEARC antque radio/audio fleamarket. It worked absolutely fine -- but it had one little issue.

    10068178695_b92f928918_b.jpgMarantz PD25 7 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    The shields on the "CD" input RCAs were -- gone. Not there. :pensive:

    10068178705_5609f33ac5_b.jpgMarantz PD25 6 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 38,245
    A victim of the infamous Monster turbine death grip cables no doubt.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 15,241
    Ayuh.
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 27,761
    Obvious the dude didn't have a TT. LOL
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  • pitdogg2 wrote: »
    they look to me like every other RCA ground shield grip of death interconnect I've ever had....

    I'll let you know if they have a death grip...
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 8,041
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    they look to me like every other RCA ground shield grip of death interconnect I've ever had....

    I'll let you know if they have a death grip...

    Please do
  • EmlynEmlyn Posts: 1,907
    In my experience that type of RCA connector design is never good enough. They tend to either be too loose and fall off or too tight and mar the surface of ground shields on components or worse. The RCA connector end on the Ethereal cable does look different, almost like a Canare/Taversoe crimp design. If it is Canare it's way better than the connector Monoprice seems to be using. The barrel is the same thing, but it seems the wire to connector is soldered based on the description. Soldered doesn't necessarily mean it is better.

    In that price range, I'd still go for Blue Jeans Cable RCA cables. They get the job done and don't cost much.
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  • Mr. SharpeMr. Sharpe Posts: 1,025
    afterburnt wrote: »
    Reverse engineered?

    Upside down engineered.
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    " not value engineering but engineering with value."
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  • monepolkmonepolk Posts: 735
    ^^^^ Must have been someone from Marketing
  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 2,046
    They do look purty and would go with certain room decors. The WAF (wife acceptance factor) s/b fairly high. The 3ft cable costs $18.48 at Amazon. That's about the same as it costs for two to go to the Five Guys burger joint near my home (plus another $5 or so). I could use some high tech well engineered and patented high cholesterol today. Five Guys dices and use fresh russet potatoes in their fries, almost as good as In n Out Burgers. French fries cooked in fresh peanut oil are fantastic.

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  • DarqueKnightDarqueKnight Posts: 6,126
    Emlyn wrote: »
    I thought Monoprice was all about engineering in audio cables being a waste of money.

    Makes you wonder why telephone companies spend, and have spent, so much money on cable engineering research...and all they are passing is a voice band signal.

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  • Yep2Yep2 Posts: 790
    Rekon you won't know how they sound till you try em.
    Isn't that the whole cable argument past & present?
  • Absolute_ZeroAbsolute_Zero Posts: 70
    edited June 14
    BTW the connectors are firm but they don't have a death grip. I picked up the AQ Evergreen from my local BB and I can't tell any audible difference.

  • msgmsg Posts: 3,475
    monepolk wrote: »
    ^^^^ Must have been someone from Marketing
    Or Engineering Managers who think they're better at Marketing than Marketers.
  • Emlyn wrote: »
    I thought Monoprice was all about engineering in audio cables being a waste of money.

    Makes you wonder why telephone companies spend, and have spent, so much money on cable engineering research...and all they are passing is a voice band signal.

    They aren't passing voice band. They are passing data over the likes of SONET and 40/100GB Ethernet links. They are concerned with not dropping 20 million concurrent phone calls over a single link.
  • dannylightningdannylightning Posts: 214
    it says ultimate performance but you say it is compared to a lower line AQ cable ?
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 27,761
    it says ultimate performance but you say it is compared to a lower line AQ cable ?

    Let's get serious for a second, do you really expect "ultimate performance" in any cable that cost 15 bucks ?

    Just my opinion, but nothing Monoprice makes will compare to AQ cables. Just sayin'..matter of fact I'm having a hard time thinking of what can be worse. Not to offend anyone, but ya get what ya pay for as the saying goes.
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  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 2,210
    Those are carp.


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  • dannylightningdannylightning Posts: 214
    tonyb wrote: »
    it says ultimate performance but you say it is compared to a lower line AQ cable ?

    Let's get serious for a second, do you really expect "ultimate performance" in any cable that cost 15 bucks ?

    nope... i ordered a couple things from mono price once. i cant say i liked them very much..

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