Power Circuit Upgrade

I just finished closing the wall to an upgraded power circuit for my 2 channel system.
I installed a sub-panel with four 20 amp dedicated circuits. Each circuit has 10/2 MC cable feeding two duplex hospital grade outlets.
The panel is fed via a 60 amp breaker with #6 wire and has a #4 solid wire ground.
In addition the sub-panel is protected with a panel mounted surge protector.

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I sold my Tripp-Lite 2400 (with noisy transformer) and am plugging everything directly into the wall.
I separated my components between the four circuits as listed below:
1. Amplification
2. Analog
3. Digital
4. Video

me3cv2doicda.jpg

I am very happy with the results.
I seem to drawn into the music no matter which source I select. :)



Mojo Audio Joule v5>>Quantum Byte w/JRiver 21 and Fidelizer>> Starlight 7 USB >> Marantz SA 8005>> Equinox 7>>
Hafler DH-110 Preamp + (Musical Concepts LXII Elite Mod) >>Equinox 7>>
Hafler DH-500 Amp+ (Musical Concepts PA-6 Elite Mod) >>Belden 5000 10 ga cables>>
SRS 2.3TL (Fully Modified)...SDA-1A (Fully Modified with Dimensional Tweeter Delete)
1KVA Dreadnought
Pioneer PLX-1000 Turntable - Shure SC35C/N35X - V15III/VN35HE
Yamaha TX-540 Tuner...Sony BDP-S570

Separate subpanel with four dedicated 20 amp circuits.
1. Amplification 2. Analog 3. Digital 4. Video

"All THAT IS LOST FROM THE SOURCE IS LOST FOREVER"

Comments

  • rpf65rpf65 Posts: 1,460
    I'd still use a power conditioner for everything but the amps and subs.

    Just my opinion, but I think you actually have less protection for your electronic components with the whole house type surge protector than you did with the Tripp-Lite, providing it was in good working order.
  • HzTweakerHzTweaker Posts: 379
    machone wrote: »
    I just finished closing the wall to an upgraded power circuit for my 2 channel system.
    I installed a sub-panel with four 20 amp dedicated circuits. Each circuit has 10/2 MC cable feeding two duplex hospital grade outlets.
    The panel is fed via a 60 amp breaker with #6 wire and has a #4 solid wire ground.
    In addition the sub-panel is protected with a panel mounted surge protector.

    5kl019cm0304.jpg

    I sold my Tripp-Lite 2400 (with noisy transformer) and am plugging everything directly into the wall.
    I separated my components between the four circuits as listed below:
    1. Amplification
    2. Analog
    3. Digital
    4. Video

    me3cv2doicda.jpg

    I am very happy with the results.
    I seem to drawn into the music no matter which source I select. :)



    ^This is cool. When I grow up and buy a home I'm going to install a similar setup.
    2ch rig:
    Speakers: Polk Signature S20
    Integrated Pre: Parasound P5
    Power Amp: Parasound A23
    CDP: Pioneer DV-563A; the Denon is riding shotgun.
    Cables: Wireworld Equinox 7 ICs, Wireworld Ultraviolet 7
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 14,941
    rpf65 wrote: »
    I'd still use a power conditioner for everything but the amps and subs.

    Just my opinion, but I think you actually have less protection for your electronic components with the whole house type surge protector than you did with the Tripp-Lite, providing it was in good working order.

    You must have missed the part where he said the subpanel has a panel mounted surge protector... which means the entire panel (and anything running off it) is protected.

    I have one on my main system and have 3 dedicated lines for my HT and the main reason I still run my ALC H15 is because it has more outlets than the regular wall.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • MrBuhlMrBuhl Posts: 1,946
    That's drool-worthy. I was so happy to install two 20 amp circuits in mantown in VA, I didn't dream of anything like this...

    All the while my electrician, a very nice Russian fellow saying... "you know... this eese something you do not neeed... eet eese in your head... not your earrsh."

    Yea, I've heard it before, just install it baby! Difference? Fo Sho!! Congrats!
    VA HT HK AVR20II, Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD, Polk Audio RC80i / Polk Audio CSi3, 60" Panasonic Plasma, Nordost / Signal Cable A2 / Wireworld / Pangea / Magic Power
    VA 2 Channel , McCormack DNA 0.5 (SMc Gold) Amp, MFA based Cocci Tube Preamp, Polk SDA2BTL (fully modded), A/L 1000VA Dreadnought, Canare 4s11 SDA cable, Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD, Music Hall mmf 5.1 Turntable, Vincent Pho-700 Phono Pre, MIT S3 IC's / MIT Shotgun S3 Speaker Cables / Pangea & Signal Cable MP power
    Noggin Schiit Valhalla, Pangea, Phillips Fidelio X1, Polk UF8000
    LA Toobs Dodd Audio 50wpc Dual Mono Amp, Eastern Electric MiniMax Preamp, Polk LSIM705, Marantz DV8300 SACD, VPI Nomad Turntable w/Ortofon 2M Bronze, MIT AVt3 Speaker & RCA Cables, Pangea & Signal Cable MP power

    Dodd Mid Level Preamp ("on the bench" w/Charlie)
    Polk SDA1c modded
    Soundcraftsmen PCR800
    Yamaha YP-D6
    Bottlehead Foreplay (modded)
    Signal Cable Silver Resolution IC's
    Audible Illusions L1 Preamp
    McCormack DNA-1 Power Drive Amp
    Eastern Electric Minimax CDP
  • machonemachone Posts: 836
    Thanks
    Mojo Audio Joule v5>>Quantum Byte w/JRiver 21 and Fidelizer>> Starlight 7 USB >> Marantz SA 8005>> Equinox 7>>
    Hafler DH-110 Preamp + (Musical Concepts LXII Elite Mod) >>Equinox 7>>
    Hafler DH-500 Amp+ (Musical Concepts PA-6 Elite Mod) >>Belden 5000 10 ga cables>>
    SRS 2.3TL (Fully Modified)...SDA-1A (Fully Modified with Dimensional Tweeter Delete)
    1KVA Dreadnought
    Pioneer PLX-1000 Turntable - Shure SC35C/N35X - V15III/VN35HE
    Yamaha TX-540 Tuner...Sony BDP-S570

    Separate subpanel with four dedicated 20 amp circuits.
    1. Amplification 2. Analog 3. Digital 4. Video

    "All THAT IS LOST FROM THE SOURCE IS LOST FOREVER"
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 8,118
    edited March 27
    ......
  • gp4jesusgp4jesus Posts: 1,017
    When I build my dedicated HT I want my system...
    machone wrote: »
    ...protected with a panel mounted surge protector.
    Where do I get one?
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED
    Outlaw Audio 975 Pre/Pro
    Samsung BDP, DirecTV Rcvr, Xbox 360, Dennon LDP, Phillips CD chgr

    Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside; CC outside
    BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside & out
    8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside & out

    LR: tri-amped RTi A7. Woofers, Rotel 98X amp; M & T, P'sound HCA-1000
    CC: Rotel RB985 -> tri-amped CSi A6
    5 Audio Pro Subs: 1 B1.39: 4 Evidence - 1 at each corner
    Surrounds: Hafler XL280 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3*
    Power Conditioning & Distribution:
    3 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 4 Furman Miniport 20s
    *Bi-amped early 2018 (I hope)
  • lightman1lightman1 Posts: 8,710
    gp4jesus wrote: »
    When I build my dedicated HT I want my system...
    machone wrote: »
    ...protected with a panel mounted surge protector.
    Where do I get one?

    Lowes, Home Desperate, electrical supply house, Menards......


    New Orleans? I can have it installed in a jiffy. Just ask @EndersShadow........
  • gp4jesusgp4jesus Posts: 1,017
    I have a HD & 2 Lowe's w/in ~15-25 minutes depending.

    Thnx
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED
    Outlaw Audio 975 Pre/Pro
    Samsung BDP, DirecTV Rcvr, Xbox 360, Dennon LDP, Phillips CD chgr

    Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside; CC outside
    BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside & out
    8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside & out

    LR: tri-amped RTi A7. Woofers, Rotel 98X amp; M & T, P'sound HCA-1000
    CC: Rotel RB985 -> tri-amped CSi A6
    5 Audio Pro Subs: 1 B1.39: 4 Evidence - 1 at each corner
    Surrounds: Hafler XL280 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3*
    Power Conditioning & Distribution:
    3 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 4 Furman Miniport 20s
    *Bi-amped early 2018 (I hope)
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 14,941
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • machonemachone Posts: 836
    gp4jesus wrote: »
    When I build my dedicated HT I want my system...
    machone wrote: »
    ...protected with a panel mounted surge protector.
    Where do I get one?

    As others have said "Lowe's/Home Depot, etc".
    Mine fit the sub-panel and took up two circuit breaker slots. If fitting into a panel make sure the surge protector is compatible with the panel.
    Mojo Audio Joule v5>>Quantum Byte w/JRiver 21 and Fidelizer>> Starlight 7 USB >> Marantz SA 8005>> Equinox 7>>
    Hafler DH-110 Preamp + (Musical Concepts LXII Elite Mod) >>Equinox 7>>
    Hafler DH-500 Amp+ (Musical Concepts PA-6 Elite Mod) >>Belden 5000 10 ga cables>>
    SRS 2.3TL (Fully Modified)...SDA-1A (Fully Modified with Dimensional Tweeter Delete)
    1KVA Dreadnought
    Pioneer PLX-1000 Turntable - Shure SC35C/N35X - V15III/VN35HE
    Yamaha TX-540 Tuner...Sony BDP-S570

    Separate subpanel with four dedicated 20 amp circuits.
    1. Amplification 2. Analog 3. Digital 4. Video

    "All THAT IS LOST FROM THE SOURCE IS LOST FOREVER"
  • Mike ReeterMike Reeter Posts: 3,113
    edited May 22
    Nice job machone! Whole House Surge Protector here also, I wouldn't be without one, if at all possible.
    SDA SRS 3.1TL's/Dynaudio Contour S 3.4 LE's
  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 3,372
    @machone why seperate the components that way?
    Parlor: Yamaha RX-A2030*Parasound Halo P5*Parasound Halo A-31*Parasound 2250v2*Emotiva XPA-200 Gen1*LSiM707 Fronts*LSiM706c Center*LSiM702f/x Surrounds*Monitor70 Series II Rears*Monitor40 Series II Presence*SVS PB2000 Sub X2*OPPO BDP-103D*Sony PS3*Samsung BD-H5900 3D Blu-Ray*Samsung-55" LED 1080p Smart 3D HDTV UN55H7150AFXZA*TEAC TN-300*Wireworld Solstice cables*Blue Jeans Cable LC-1's IC's*

    Dungeon: Auralic Aries Mini*Dayens Ampino Preamp*Dayens Ampino Monoblocks*Usher N-6361*Wireworld Oasis cables*Wireworld Oasis IC's*IFI nano IDSD* Cambridge CXU*

    Panamax MR5100*Panamax M8-AV-PRO*Furman PST-2+6

    Head gear: Sennheiser HD 558*Audio-Technica ATH-M40x*Sennheiser HD 598 Cs*Audio-Technica ATH-MSR7*Philips SHP9500S*

    Hello Kitty boombox

    Spares: Yamaha RX-A1040*Emotiva XPA-1L Gen2 X2*Emotiva XPA-3 Gen2*CSiA6 Center*Monitor40 Series II*SVS PB1000 Sub*Sony BDPS6500 Blu-ray player*POS 37" LCD*Douglas Connection Furez 12 AWG 2 Conductor*Blue Jeans Cable LC-1's IC's*


    Self Control is over rated.
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 8,118
    afterburnt wrote: »
    @machone why seperate the components that way?

    No cross noise contamination. Each will have its own dedicated circuit.
  • gp4jesusgp4jesus Posts: 1,017
    FWIW: I have my left* & right** tower amps on separate breakers.
    * shared by the CC amp
    ** shared by sub
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED
    Outlaw Audio 975 Pre/Pro
    Samsung BDP, DirecTV Rcvr, Xbox 360, Dennon LDP, Phillips CD chgr

    Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside; CC outside
    BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside & out
    8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside & out

    LR: tri-amped RTi A7. Woofers, Rotel 98X amp; M & T, P'sound HCA-1000
    CC: Rotel RB985 -> tri-amped CSi A6
    5 Audio Pro Subs: 1 B1.39: 4 Evidence - 1 at each corner
    Surrounds: Hafler XL280 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3*
    Power Conditioning & Distribution:
    3 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 4 Furman Miniport 20s
    *Bi-amped early 2018 (I hope)
  • machonemachone Posts: 836
    edited November 28
    Last night I upgraded two outlets with Furutech copper outlets. One for my amplifi cation and one for digital. Got them from Doug.
    Had a great listening session afterwards.
    I plan to upgrade the power cords to the preamp, computer power supply and Marantz 8005 next.
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    Mojo Audio Joule v5>>Quantum Byte w/JRiver 21 and Fidelizer>> Starlight 7 USB >> Marantz SA 8005>> Equinox 7>>
    Hafler DH-110 Preamp + (Musical Concepts LXII Elite Mod) >>Equinox 7>>
    Hafler DH-500 Amp+ (Musical Concepts PA-6 Elite Mod) >>Belden 5000 10 ga cables>>
    SRS 2.3TL (Fully Modified)...SDA-1A (Fully Modified with Dimensional Tweeter Delete)
    1KVA Dreadnought
    Pioneer PLX-1000 Turntable - Shure SC35C/N35X - V15III/VN35HE
    Yamaha TX-540 Tuner...Sony BDP-S570

    Separate subpanel with four dedicated 20 amp circuits.
    1. Amplification 2. Analog 3. Digital 4. Video

    "All THAT IS LOST FROM THE SOURCE IS LOST FOREVER"
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 14,941
    Looks right purdy!
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • helipilotdoughelipilotdoug Posts: 1,075
    We have the Furutech FPX-CU receptacles on sale right now. And as a Polkie you'll get another 10% off. Click on contact us and give me your Club Polk handle along with what you want to order. We have a lot of goodies on sale right now, so check out the specials page.
    Sunfire Theater Grand IV
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature
    SRS 2.1TL
    SDA 2BTL's
    CSiA6
    FXiA4
    FXiA6
    SDA 2A's
    Monitor 10A's

    http://www.douglasconnection.com
  • machonemachone Posts: 836
    If there is anyone on the fence thinking about an receptacle upgrade I recommend trying the Furutech FPX-CU.

    I must say I have been pleasantly surprised that this could really improve SQ. Seems to be more air around individual voices and instruments with tighter bass and a sweeter presentation.

    Sure would like to hear someone else's experience on this to verify that I am not crazy. :p
    Mojo Audio Joule v5>>Quantum Byte w/JRiver 21 and Fidelizer>> Starlight 7 USB >> Marantz SA 8005>> Equinox 7>>
    Hafler DH-110 Preamp + (Musical Concepts LXII Elite Mod) >>Equinox 7>>
    Hafler DH-500 Amp+ (Musical Concepts PA-6 Elite Mod) >>Belden 5000 10 ga cables>>
    SRS 2.3TL (Fully Modified)...SDA-1A (Fully Modified with Dimensional Tweeter Delete)
    1KVA Dreadnought
    Pioneer PLX-1000 Turntable - Shure SC35C/N35X - V15III/VN35HE
    Yamaha TX-540 Tuner...Sony BDP-S570

    Separate subpanel with four dedicated 20 amp circuits.
    1. Amplification 2. Analog 3. Digital 4. Video

    "All THAT IS LOST FROM THE SOURCE IS LOST FOREVER"
  • gp4jesusgp4jesus Posts: 1,017
    edited November 29
    Recall the $? Hypothetically I need 5
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED
    Outlaw Audio 975 Pre/Pro
    Samsung BDP, DirecTV Rcvr, Xbox 360, Dennon LDP, Phillips CD chgr

    Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside; CC outside
    BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside & out
    8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside & out

    LR: tri-amped RTi A7. Woofers, Rotel 98X amp; M & T, P'sound HCA-1000
    CC: Rotel RB985 -> tri-amped CSi A6
    5 Audio Pro Subs: 1 B1.39: 4 Evidence - 1 at each corner
    Surrounds: Hafler XL280 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3*
    Power Conditioning & Distribution:
    3 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 4 Furman Miniport 20s
    *Bi-amped early 2018 (I hope)
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 8,118
    gp4jesus wrote: »
    Recall the $? Hypothetically I need 5

    Doug provided a link to it
    http://www.douglasconnection.com/Furutech-FPX-Cu-Duplex-Receptacle-FURUFPXCu.htm
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 754
    machone wrote: »
    If there is anyone on the fence thinking about an receptacle upgrade I recommend trying the Furutech FPX-CU.

    I must say I have been pleasantly surprised that this could really improve SQ. Seems to be more air around individual voices and instruments with tighter bass and a sweeter presentation.

    Sure would like to hear someone else's experience on this to verify that I am not crazy. :p

    Make sure you also upgrade the wire leading to the panel box, and the breaker, and the panel box itself, and the cable leading to the meter, and the meter pack, and the meter, and the drop from the transformer. Also, make sure all of the power lines from the transformer back to the power generating plant are upgraded.
    Polk SDA SRS 2.3TL
    Silk Audio MS38SE Tube Amp
    Yamaha DSP A-1 AV Amp
    Panasonic TC-P65S2 Plasma TV
  • machonemachone Posts: 836
    Viking64 wrote: »
    machone wrote: »
    If there is anyone on the fence thinking about an receptacle upgrade I recommend trying the Furutech FPX-CU.

    I must say I have been pleasantly surprised that this could really improve SQ. Seems to be more air around individual voices and instruments with tighter bass and a sweeter presentation.

    Sure would like to hear someone else's experience on this to verify that I am not crazy. :p

    Make sure you also upgrade the wire leading to the panel box, and the breaker, and the panel box itself, and the cable leading to the meter, and the meter pack, and the meter, and the drop from the transformer. Also, make sure all of the power lines from the transformer back to the power generating plant are upgraded.

    Already Done! >:)
    Mojo Audio Joule v5>>Quantum Byte w/JRiver 21 and Fidelizer>> Starlight 7 USB >> Marantz SA 8005>> Equinox 7>>
    Hafler DH-110 Preamp + (Musical Concepts LXII Elite Mod) >>Equinox 7>>
    Hafler DH-500 Amp+ (Musical Concepts PA-6 Elite Mod) >>Belden 5000 10 ga cables>>
    SRS 2.3TL (Fully Modified)...SDA-1A (Fully Modified with Dimensional Tweeter Delete)
    1KVA Dreadnought
    Pioneer PLX-1000 Turntable - Shure SC35C/N35X - V15III/VN35HE
    Yamaha TX-540 Tuner...Sony BDP-S570

    Separate subpanel with four dedicated 20 amp circuits.
    1. Amplification 2. Analog 3. Digital 4. Video

    "All THAT IS LOST FROM THE SOURCE IS LOST FOREVER"
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 754
    machone wrote: »
    Already Done! >:)

    I just thought of something. Are the ground conductors in the MC isolated from the junction boxes? Are the receptacles? Inherently, the metal armor is grounded to those boxes and the panel box.
    Polk SDA SRS 2.3TL
    Silk Audio MS38SE Tube Amp
    Yamaha DSP A-1 AV Amp
    Panasonic TC-P65S2 Plasma TV
  • ConradiclesConradicles Posts: 5,460
    Very nice!
  • machonemachone Posts: 836
    The MC metal armor is grounded to the sub-panel but the receptacle box is plastic.
    The MC ground conductor is grounded to the sub-panel and the receptacle.
    I got a lot of good info from the attached White-Paper.
    Mojo Audio Joule v5>>Quantum Byte w/JRiver 21 and Fidelizer>> Starlight 7 USB >> Marantz SA 8005>> Equinox 7>>
    Hafler DH-110 Preamp + (Musical Concepts LXII Elite Mod) >>Equinox 7>>
    Hafler DH-500 Amp+ (Musical Concepts PA-6 Elite Mod) >>Belden 5000 10 ga cables>>
    SRS 2.3TL (Fully Modified)...SDA-1A (Fully Modified with Dimensional Tweeter Delete)
    1KVA Dreadnought
    Pioneer PLX-1000 Turntable - Shure SC35C/N35X - V15III/VN35HE
    Yamaha TX-540 Tuner...Sony BDP-S570

    Separate subpanel with four dedicated 20 amp circuits.
    1. Amplification 2. Analog 3. Digital 4. Video

    "All THAT IS LOST FROM THE SOURCE IS LOST FOREVER"
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 754
    machone wrote: »
    The MC metal armor is grounded to the sub-panel but the receptacle box is plastic.
    The MC ground conductor is grounded to the sub-panel and the receptacle.
    I got a lot of good info from the attached White-Paper.

    That sounds like the most ideal method. I had never seen MC run to a plastic box. That's why I wondered. :)
    Polk SDA SRS 2.3TL
    Silk Audio MS38SE Tube Amp
    Yamaha DSP A-1 AV Amp
    Panasonic TC-P65S2 Plasma TV
  • lightman1lightman1 Posts: 8,710
    edited November 29
    machone wrote: »
    Viking64 wrote: »
    machone wrote: »
    If there is anyone on the fence thinking about an receptacle upgrade I recommend trying the Furutech FPX-CU.

    I must say I have been pleasantly surprised that this could really improve SQ. Seems to be more air around individual voices and instruments with tighter bass and a sweeter presentation.

    Sure would like to hear someone else's experience on this to verify that I am not crazy. :p

    Make sure you also upgrade the wire leading to the panel box, and the breaker, and the panel box itself, and the cable leading to the meter, and the meter pack, and the meter, and the drop from the transformer. Also, make sure all of the power lines from the transformer back to the power generating plant are upgraded.

    Already Done! >:)

    You're welcome.
  • machonemachone Posts: 836
    lightman1 wrote: »
    You're welcome.

    Thanks :)
    Mojo Audio Joule v5>>Quantum Byte w/JRiver 21 and Fidelizer>> Starlight 7 USB >> Marantz SA 8005>> Equinox 7>>
    Hafler DH-110 Preamp + (Musical Concepts LXII Elite Mod) >>Equinox 7>>
    Hafler DH-500 Amp+ (Musical Concepts PA-6 Elite Mod) >>Belden 5000 10 ga cables>>
    SRS 2.3TL (Fully Modified)...SDA-1A (Fully Modified with Dimensional Tweeter Delete)
    1KVA Dreadnought
    Pioneer PLX-1000 Turntable - Shure SC35C/N35X - V15III/VN35HE
    Yamaha TX-540 Tuner...Sony BDP-S570

    Separate subpanel with four dedicated 20 amp circuits.
    1. Amplification 2. Analog 3. Digital 4. Video

    "All THAT IS LOST FROM THE SOURCE IS LOST FOREVER"
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