SDA upgrade thread 2

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  • muncybobmuncybob Posts: 1,587
    Man, you been bz! Sealing the cabinets is 1 thing I totally overlooked when I had mine open...dang it! Still, they do pass the push test so maybe it's not really needed on mine. I guess if I open them up again I will do it though along with an inductor change. My wife says they sound good as are and I kinda agree with her. Adding the BH5 was worthwhile for sure...really looking forward to getting my tube pre back for some serious listening.

    Keep calm and mod on!
    Yep, my name really is Bob
  • honestaquarianhonestaquarian Posts: 1,858
    I did the push test on mine by pushing in the passive radiator. All of the woofers came out and then immediately settled back down a bit (*not all the way though*) So I definitely have some cabinet leakage somewhere.vypwzv28au1j.jpg

    However I have to go to another hardware store and pick up some more Power Grab in the larger container that you use with the squeeze gun. The ones that I have are like toothpaste tubes and as you can see in some of the pics it ain't workin' out too good. :| :#
    Living room Home theater: Upgrade Company modified Onkyo PR-SC5509,Sunfire Cinema grand Signature 5 channel amp(1st gen),Carver TFM-45,Carver M-400a,Panasonic TC-P50ST60 50" Plasma(last gen before Plasma production stopped)Pioneer Elite DVL-91,Oppo Digital BDP-103,TiVo Roamio Plus,Nakamich BX-300,Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type VxMR cartridge,Polk SDA-SRS 3.1 TL(with RD-0198 tweeters),Polk CS-1000P(with SL-6506 tweeter),Polk Monitor 5jr(with RD-0194 tweeters),Polk RT-35i (1),Polk Mini Monitor,Polk PSW150(2),Monster Power HTPS 7000 MKII Signature series,Monster Power AVS 2000 Signature Series,Various MIT,Monster,Upgrade Company and Belden interconnect,power,HDMI,Coax and Toslink Digital and speaker cables.

    Bedroom 2 channel system:Integra DTM 40.4,Nakamichi BX-100,TiVo mini,Musical Fidelity X-LPS,X-PSU,Carver TFM-25,Sony KV-34XBR970(last of the widescreen tube sets before production stopped)Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type V MR cartridge,Polk RT-55(with SL-6506 tweeters),Polk PSW-200 in plexiglass(2),Sony Playstation 3 slim.Monster Power HTPS-5100MKII,Various Kimber,Audioquest and MIT interconnects and speaker cables.
  • dkfreebirddkfreebird Posts: 701
    I think you will find the larger tubes to be harder to work with. Just run a small bead on the seams and smooth it out with your finger. I tried the larger tubes on mine and went to the smaller ones.
    2 Channel
    Polk 1.2tl's Fully modded with dreadnought.2.3tl's and 3.1tl's
    McCormack DNA 0.5 Deluxe
    Dared SL 2000a
    Marantz HD-DAC 1
    Marantz UD 7007
    Pangea PC
    Wireworld Equinox 7 interconnects
    Wireworld Equinox 7 Speaker Cables and Jumpers
    Home theater
    Onkyo RC360-B&W Cdm1nt x4 sold 2 to fund more 2 channel gear down to 2 :p Cdm Center Channel-Rel Strata iii sub
  • machonemachone Posts: 763
    It's hard to get a gun into the cabinet.
    Mojo Audio Joule v5>>Quantum Byte w/JRiver 21 and Fidelizer>> Starlight 7 USB >> Marantz SA 8005>> Equinox 7>>
    Hafler DH-110 Preamp + (Musical Concepts LXII Elite Mod) >>Equinox 7>>
    Hafler DH-500 Amp+ (Musical Concepts PA-6 Elite Mod) >>Belden 5000 10 ga cables>>
    SRS 2.3TL (Fully Modified)...SDA-1A (Fully Modified with Dimensional Tweeter Delete)
    1KVA Dreadnought
    Pioneer PLX-1000 Turntable - Shure SC35C/N35X - V15III/VN35HE
    Yamaha TX-540 Tuner...Sony DVP-NS575P DVD Player

    Separate subpanel with four dedicated 20 amp circuits.
    1. Amplification 2. Analog 3. Digital 4. Video

    "All THAT IS LOST FROM THE SOURCE IS LOST FOREVER"
  • honestaquarianhonestaquarian Posts: 1,858
    Okay so smaller tubes and rubber gloves it is!
    Thanks @dkfreebird and @machone !!
    If anyone else has any experiences/tidbits/tips post'em here. This is why I started this thread.
    Living room Home theater: Upgrade Company modified Onkyo PR-SC5509,Sunfire Cinema grand Signature 5 channel amp(1st gen),Carver TFM-45,Carver M-400a,Panasonic TC-P50ST60 50" Plasma(last gen before Plasma production stopped)Pioneer Elite DVL-91,Oppo Digital BDP-103,TiVo Roamio Plus,Nakamich BX-300,Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type VxMR cartridge,Polk SDA-SRS 3.1 TL(with RD-0198 tweeters),Polk CS-1000P(with SL-6506 tweeter),Polk Monitor 5jr(with RD-0194 tweeters),Polk RT-35i (1),Polk Mini Monitor,Polk PSW150(2),Monster Power HTPS 7000 MKII Signature series,Monster Power AVS 2000 Signature Series,Various MIT,Monster,Upgrade Company and Belden interconnect,power,HDMI,Coax and Toslink Digital and speaker cables.

    Bedroom 2 channel system:Integra DTM 40.4,Nakamichi BX-100,TiVo mini,Musical Fidelity X-LPS,X-PSU,Carver TFM-25,Sony KV-34XBR970(last of the widescreen tube sets before production stopped)Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type V MR cartridge,Polk RT-55(with SL-6506 tweeters),Polk PSW-200 in plexiglass(2),Sony Playstation 3 slim.Monster Power HTPS-5100MKII,Various Kimber,Audioquest and MIT interconnects and speaker cables.
  • stones89stones89 Posts: 196
    You are doing a good job! Thanks for posting the journey.
    Basis 2200 Signature, Vector 4, Transfiguration Proteus, Allnic H3000, CJ Premier 14,Dehavilland Ultraverve III, McIntosh 501's, Classe CA200,Polk 2.3tl's, Thiel CS6, 3.6, Kimber KCAG, Purist Audio Venustas, Kubala Sosna Fascination, Wywires PC's
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 7,051
    edited March 7
    they also make a power grab in a pressurized can that might work in there. First I'd remove everything, trying to work around stuff is a pita
  • You can also use a rounded end popsicle stick to form the Power Grab into a nice fillet for cabinet seams.

  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 7,051
    You can also use a rounded end popsicle stick to form the Power Grab into a nice fillet for cabinet seams.

    yep i always keep a bag of those around. So many uses very versatile. Any craft store or wal-mart will have them.
  • honestaquarianhonestaquarian Posts: 1,858
    You can also use a rounded end Popsicle stick to form the Power Grab into a nice fillet for cabinet seams.

    Popsicle stick eh?
    COOL
    I see`em all the time discarded. Now of course just because I'll be looking for one I won't find any!
    Thanks @littlewoodboats !
    Living room Home theater: Upgrade Company modified Onkyo PR-SC5509,Sunfire Cinema grand Signature 5 channel amp(1st gen),Carver TFM-45,Carver M-400a,Panasonic TC-P50ST60 50" Plasma(last gen before Plasma production stopped)Pioneer Elite DVL-91,Oppo Digital BDP-103,TiVo Roamio Plus,Nakamich BX-300,Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type VxMR cartridge,Polk SDA-SRS 3.1 TL(with RD-0198 tweeters),Polk CS-1000P(with SL-6506 tweeter),Polk Monitor 5jr(with RD-0194 tweeters),Polk RT-35i (1),Polk Mini Monitor,Polk PSW150(2),Monster Power HTPS 7000 MKII Signature series,Monster Power AVS 2000 Signature Series,Various MIT,Monster,Upgrade Company and Belden interconnect,power,HDMI,Coax and Toslink Digital and speaker cables.

    Bedroom 2 channel system:Integra DTM 40.4,Nakamichi BX-100,TiVo mini,Musical Fidelity X-LPS,X-PSU,Carver TFM-25,Sony KV-34XBR970(last of the widescreen tube sets before production stopped)Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type V MR cartridge,Polk RT-55(with SL-6506 tweeters),Polk PSW-200 in plexiglass(2),Sony Playstation 3 slim.Monster Power HTPS-5100MKII,Various Kimber,Audioquest and MIT interconnects and speaker cables.
  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 6,911
    I got the self pressurized can type and it worked fine for me. You don't need no stinking gloves, just wipe your finger off on a hand towel. It mostly comes off, the rest in the following days ;)
    | Front - Dynaudio Emit M20 | Center - N/A | Rear - Polk Monitor 4 | Sub - N/A |
    | AVR - Yamaha Aventage RX-A1020 | Preamp - Dared MC-7P | Amp - B&K Reference 4420 |
    | Turntable - Yamaha PX-3 | Cartridge - Dynavector DV-20X2H | Digital Source - AURALiC Aries Mini |
    | TV - LG 60" 4K | Gaming - Xbox One - PS3 - New 3DS XL - Nvidia Shield TV |

    This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality
    Embrace this moment, remember, we are eternal
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  • honestaquarianhonestaquarian Posts: 1,858
    Nightfall wrote: »
    I got the self pressurized can type and it worked fine for me. You don't need no stinking gloves, just wipe your finger off on a hand towel. It mostly comes off, the rest in the following days ;)

    Dass juss NASTY :# :p
    Living room Home theater: Upgrade Company modified Onkyo PR-SC5509,Sunfire Cinema grand Signature 5 channel amp(1st gen),Carver TFM-45,Carver M-400a,Panasonic TC-P50ST60 50" Plasma(last gen before Plasma production stopped)Pioneer Elite DVL-91,Oppo Digital BDP-103,TiVo Roamio Plus,Nakamich BX-300,Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type VxMR cartridge,Polk SDA-SRS 3.1 TL(with RD-0198 tweeters),Polk CS-1000P(with SL-6506 tweeter),Polk Monitor 5jr(with RD-0194 tweeters),Polk RT-35i (1),Polk Mini Monitor,Polk PSW150(2),Monster Power HTPS 7000 MKII Signature series,Monster Power AVS 2000 Signature Series,Various MIT,Monster,Upgrade Company and Belden interconnect,power,HDMI,Coax and Toslink Digital and speaker cables.

    Bedroom 2 channel system:Integra DTM 40.4,Nakamichi BX-100,TiVo mini,Musical Fidelity X-LPS,X-PSU,Carver TFM-25,Sony KV-34XBR970(last of the widescreen tube sets before production stopped)Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type V MR cartridge,Polk RT-55(with SL-6506 tweeters),Polk PSW-200 in plexiglass(2),Sony Playstation 3 slim.Monster Power HTPS-5100MKII,Various Kimber,Audioquest and MIT interconnects and speaker cables.
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 13,202
    Nightfall wrote: »
    I got the self pressurized can type and it worked fine for me. You don't need no stinking gloves, just wipe your finger off on a hand towel. It mostly comes off, the rest in the following days ;)

    Dass juss NASTY :# :p

    Lesson of the day: Don't let him use your hand towels.
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    Speakers: Usher: CP-6311, Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Fiesole, Volterra, Polk: T50, Signature S60, S55, S35, S30, S20, S15, RTA 15tl, Sonner Audio Allegro Unum
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Dayens Ampino, Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, AURALiC Altair, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design Magnifico, North Star Design Supremo
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 7,051
    Nightfall wrote: »
    I got the self pressurized can type and it worked fine for me. You don't need no stinking gloves, just wipe your finger off on a hand towel. It mostly comes off, the rest in the following days ;)

    or you could wash your hands, it is water soluble
  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 6,911
    I did, still couldn't get it 100% off, I may have just lost patience too soon though.
    | Front - Dynaudio Emit M20 | Center - N/A | Rear - Polk Monitor 4 | Sub - N/A |
    | AVR - Yamaha Aventage RX-A1020 | Preamp - Dared MC-7P | Amp - B&K Reference 4420 |
    | Turntable - Yamaha PX-3 | Cartridge - Dynavector DV-20X2H | Digital Source - AURALiC Aries Mini |
    | TV - LG 60" 4K | Gaming - Xbox One - PS3 - New 3DS XL - Nvidia Shield TV |

    This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality
    Embrace this moment, remember, we are eternal
    All this pain is an illusion
  • honestaquarianhonestaquarian Posts: 1,858
    edited March 8
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    You know,this requires a LOT MORE work,patience and attention to detail than it looks like on some of the threads that I've seen. You have to make sure you mark the wiring once it's removed from each driver. So that you NOT ONLY know which driver it goes to,but also which is the positive terminal. You also have to have a small,Flathead screwdriver or something of that sort to CAREFULLY pry the drivers out of the countersunk holes in the cabinet. Gluing the magnets ain't no picnic either.
    Next step is to apply more glue to the corners of the cabinet and then apply the Blackhole 5 that you see lying on the cabinet.
    Living room Home theater: Upgrade Company modified Onkyo PR-SC5509,Sunfire Cinema grand Signature 5 channel amp(1st gen),Carver TFM-45,Carver M-400a,Panasonic TC-P50ST60 50" Plasma(last gen before Plasma production stopped)Pioneer Elite DVL-91,Oppo Digital BDP-103,TiVo Roamio Plus,Nakamich BX-300,Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type VxMR cartridge,Polk SDA-SRS 3.1 TL(with RD-0198 tweeters),Polk CS-1000P(with SL-6506 tweeter),Polk Monitor 5jr(with RD-0194 tweeters),Polk RT-35i (1),Polk Mini Monitor,Polk PSW150(2),Monster Power HTPS 7000 MKII Signature series,Monster Power AVS 2000 Signature Series,Various MIT,Monster,Upgrade Company and Belden interconnect,power,HDMI,Coax and Toslink Digital and speaker cables.

    Bedroom 2 channel system:Integra DTM 40.4,Nakamichi BX-100,TiVo mini,Musical Fidelity X-LPS,X-PSU,Carver TFM-25,Sony KV-34XBR970(last of the widescreen tube sets before production stopped)Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type V MR cartridge,Polk RT-55(with SL-6506 tweeters),Polk PSW-200 in plexiglass(2),Sony Playstation 3 slim.Monster Power HTPS-5100MKII,Various Kimber,Audioquest and MIT interconnects and speaker cables.
  • honestaquarianhonestaquarian Posts: 1,858
    edited March 8
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    The wiring is JUST long enough to go to each driver,so it would be VERY EASY to get it all mixed up.ESPECIALLY when some of it is wired in series! :o
    Living room Home theater: Upgrade Company modified Onkyo PR-SC5509,Sunfire Cinema grand Signature 5 channel amp(1st gen),Carver TFM-45,Carver M-400a,Panasonic TC-P50ST60 50" Plasma(last gen before Plasma production stopped)Pioneer Elite DVL-91,Oppo Digital BDP-103,TiVo Roamio Plus,Nakamich BX-300,Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type VxMR cartridge,Polk SDA-SRS 3.1 TL(with RD-0198 tweeters),Polk CS-1000P(with SL-6506 tweeter),Polk Monitor 5jr(with RD-0194 tweeters),Polk RT-35i (1),Polk Mini Monitor,Polk PSW150(2),Monster Power HTPS 7000 MKII Signature series,Monster Power AVS 2000 Signature Series,Various MIT,Monster,Upgrade Company and Belden interconnect,power,HDMI,Coax and Toslink Digital and speaker cables.

    Bedroom 2 channel system:Integra DTM 40.4,Nakamichi BX-100,TiVo mini,Musical Fidelity X-LPS,X-PSU,Carver TFM-25,Sony KV-34XBR970(last of the widescreen tube sets before production stopped)Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type V MR cartridge,Polk RT-55(with SL-6506 tweeters),Polk PSW-200 in plexiglass(2),Sony Playstation 3 slim.Monster Power HTPS-5100MKII,Various Kimber,Audioquest and MIT interconnects and speaker cables.
  • honestaquarianhonestaquarian Posts: 1,858
    edited March 8
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    I'm gonna take my sweet time doing this. All this bending over the cabinets and what not ain't exactly a walk in the park anymore when your middle aged :( and I don't have a workshop or workbench in a garage like some of the guys on here. Small apartment here with no basement or garage. :#
    Living room Home theater: Upgrade Company modified Onkyo PR-SC5509,Sunfire Cinema grand Signature 5 channel amp(1st gen),Carver TFM-45,Carver M-400a,Panasonic TC-P50ST60 50" Plasma(last gen before Plasma production stopped)Pioneer Elite DVL-91,Oppo Digital BDP-103,TiVo Roamio Plus,Nakamich BX-300,Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type VxMR cartridge,Polk SDA-SRS 3.1 TL(with RD-0198 tweeters),Polk CS-1000P(with SL-6506 tweeter),Polk Monitor 5jr(with RD-0194 tweeters),Polk RT-35i (1),Polk Mini Monitor,Polk PSW150(2),Monster Power HTPS 7000 MKII Signature series,Monster Power AVS 2000 Signature Series,Various MIT,Monster,Upgrade Company and Belden interconnect,power,HDMI,Coax and Toslink Digital and speaker cables.

    Bedroom 2 channel system:Integra DTM 40.4,Nakamichi BX-100,TiVo mini,Musical Fidelity X-LPS,X-PSU,Carver TFM-25,Sony KV-34XBR970(last of the widescreen tube sets before production stopped)Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type V MR cartridge,Polk RT-55(with SL-6506 tweeters),Polk PSW-200 in plexiglass(2),Sony Playstation 3 slim.Monster Power HTPS-5100MKII,Various Kimber,Audioquest and MIT interconnects and speaker cables.
  • honestaquarianhonestaquarian Posts: 1,858
    It's a good thing I love my Polk SDA's and like doing stuff like this!! :D
    Living room Home theater: Upgrade Company modified Onkyo PR-SC5509,Sunfire Cinema grand Signature 5 channel amp(1st gen),Carver TFM-45,Carver M-400a,Panasonic TC-P50ST60 50" Plasma(last gen before Plasma production stopped)Pioneer Elite DVL-91,Oppo Digital BDP-103,TiVo Roamio Plus,Nakamich BX-300,Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type VxMR cartridge,Polk SDA-SRS 3.1 TL(with RD-0198 tweeters),Polk CS-1000P(with SL-6506 tweeter),Polk Monitor 5jr(with RD-0194 tweeters),Polk RT-35i (1),Polk Mini Monitor,Polk PSW150(2),Monster Power HTPS 7000 MKII Signature series,Monster Power AVS 2000 Signature Series,Various MIT,Monster,Upgrade Company and Belden interconnect,power,HDMI,Coax and Toslink Digital and speaker cables.

    Bedroom 2 channel system:Integra DTM 40.4,Nakamichi BX-100,TiVo mini,Musical Fidelity X-LPS,X-PSU,Carver TFM-25,Sony KV-34XBR970(last of the widescreen tube sets before production stopped)Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type V MR cartridge,Polk RT-55(with SL-6506 tweeters),Polk PSW-200 in plexiglass(2),Sony Playstation 3 slim.Monster Power HTPS-5100MKII,Various Kimber,Audioquest and MIT interconnects and speaker cables.
  • honestaquarianhonestaquarian Posts: 1,858
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    ONE Blackhole5 pad installed (*yay*) I'm done for now. Get black to this later
    Living room Home theater: Upgrade Company modified Onkyo PR-SC5509,Sunfire Cinema grand Signature 5 channel amp(1st gen),Carver TFM-45,Carver M-400a,Panasonic TC-P50ST60 50" Plasma(last gen before Plasma production stopped)Pioneer Elite DVL-91,Oppo Digital BDP-103,TiVo Roamio Plus,Nakamich BX-300,Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type VxMR cartridge,Polk SDA-SRS 3.1 TL(with RD-0198 tweeters),Polk CS-1000P(with SL-6506 tweeter),Polk Monitor 5jr(with RD-0194 tweeters),Polk RT-35i (1),Polk Mini Monitor,Polk PSW150(2),Monster Power HTPS 7000 MKII Signature series,Monster Power AVS 2000 Signature Series,Various MIT,Monster,Upgrade Company and Belden interconnect,power,HDMI,Coax and Toslink Digital and speaker cables.

    Bedroom 2 channel system:Integra DTM 40.4,Nakamichi BX-100,TiVo mini,Musical Fidelity X-LPS,X-PSU,Carver TFM-25,Sony KV-34XBR970(last of the widescreen tube sets before production stopped)Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type V MR cartridge,Polk RT-55(with SL-6506 tweeters),Polk PSW-200 in plexiglass(2),Sony Playstation 3 slim.Monster Power HTPS-5100MKII,Various Kimber,Audioquest and MIT interconnects and speaker cables.
  • honestaquarianhonestaquarian Posts: 1,858
    muncybob wrote: »
    Man, you been bz! Sealing the cabinets is 1 thing I totally overlooked when I had mine open...dang it! Still, they do pass the push test so maybe it's not really needed on mine. I guess if I open them up again I will do it though along with an inductor change. My wife says they sound good as are and I kinda agree with her. Adding the BH5 was worthwhile for sure...really looking forward to getting my tube pre back for some serious listening.

    Keep calm and mod on!

    @muncybob
    Again my thanks for the BH5. When you do the push test look CLOSELY at the woofers when you push in the passive radiator. While your hand is holding the PR in look to see if the woofers move back inward while your hand is still and holding the PR in. If the woofers move then you got air leakage! I discovered it's far easier to see when the cabinet in flat on it's back on the floor.
    Living room Home theater: Upgrade Company modified Onkyo PR-SC5509,Sunfire Cinema grand Signature 5 channel amp(1st gen),Carver TFM-45,Carver M-400a,Panasonic TC-P50ST60 50" Plasma(last gen before Plasma production stopped)Pioneer Elite DVL-91,Oppo Digital BDP-103,TiVo Roamio Plus,Nakamich BX-300,Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type VxMR cartridge,Polk SDA-SRS 3.1 TL(with RD-0198 tweeters),Polk CS-1000P(with SL-6506 tweeter),Polk Monitor 5jr(with RD-0194 tweeters),Polk RT-35i (1),Polk Mini Monitor,Polk PSW150(2),Monster Power HTPS 7000 MKII Signature series,Monster Power AVS 2000 Signature Series,Various MIT,Monster,Upgrade Company and Belden interconnect,power,HDMI,Coax and Toslink Digital and speaker cables.

    Bedroom 2 channel system:Integra DTM 40.4,Nakamichi BX-100,TiVo mini,Musical Fidelity X-LPS,X-PSU,Carver TFM-25,Sony KV-34XBR970(last of the widescreen tube sets before production stopped)Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type V MR cartridge,Polk RT-55(with SL-6506 tweeters),Polk PSW-200 in plexiglass(2),Sony Playstation 3 slim.Monster Power HTPS-5100MKII,Various Kimber,Audioquest and MIT interconnects and speaker cables.
  • 1976doc1976doc Posts: 276
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    I'm gonna take my sweet time doing this. All this bending over the cabinets and what not ain't exactly a walk in the park anymore when your middle aged :( and I don't have a workshop or workbench in a garage like some of the guys on here. Small apartment here with no basement or garage. :#

    Middle aged? When is that again?
    Or is that back in the time of hobbits and dragons?
  • honestaquarianhonestaquarian Posts: 1,858
    Hobbits?
    Never heard of`em :D
    Living room Home theater: Upgrade Company modified Onkyo PR-SC5509,Sunfire Cinema grand Signature 5 channel amp(1st gen),Carver TFM-45,Carver M-400a,Panasonic TC-P50ST60 50" Plasma(last gen before Plasma production stopped)Pioneer Elite DVL-91,Oppo Digital BDP-103,TiVo Roamio Plus,Nakamich BX-300,Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type VxMR cartridge,Polk SDA-SRS 3.1 TL(with RD-0198 tweeters),Polk CS-1000P(with SL-6506 tweeter),Polk Monitor 5jr(with RD-0194 tweeters),Polk RT-35i (1),Polk Mini Monitor,Polk PSW150(2),Monster Power HTPS 7000 MKII Signature series,Monster Power AVS 2000 Signature Series,Various MIT,Monster,Upgrade Company and Belden interconnect,power,HDMI,Coax and Toslink Digital and speaker cables.

    Bedroom 2 channel system:Integra DTM 40.4,Nakamichi BX-100,TiVo mini,Musical Fidelity X-LPS,X-PSU,Carver TFM-25,Sony KV-34XBR970(last of the widescreen tube sets before production stopped)Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type V MR cartridge,Polk RT-55(with SL-6506 tweeters),Polk PSW-200 in plexiglass(2),Sony Playstation 3 slim.Monster Power HTPS-5100MKII,Various Kimber,Audioquest and MIT interconnects and speaker cables.
  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 6,911
    No matter how air tight the cabinets are the MWs will always retract because the dust caps can breathe.
    | Front - Dynaudio Emit M20 | Center - N/A | Rear - Polk Monitor 4 | Sub - N/A |
    | AVR - Yamaha Aventage RX-A1020 | Preamp - Dared MC-7P | Amp - B&K Reference 4420 |
    | Turntable - Yamaha PX-3 | Cartridge - Dynavector DV-20X2H | Digital Source - AURALiC Aries Mini |
    | TV - LG 60" 4K | Gaming - Xbox One - PS3 - New 3DS XL - Nvidia Shield TV |

    This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality
    Embrace this moment, remember, we are eternal
    All this pain is an illusion
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 37,669
    muncybob wrote: »
    Man, you been bz! Sealing the cabinets is 1 thing I totally overlooked when I had mine open...dang it! Still, they do pass the push test so maybe it's not really needed on mine. I guess if I open them up again I will do it though along with an inductor change. My wife says they sound good as are and I kinda agree with her. Adding the BH5 was worthwhile for sure...really looking forward to getting my tube pre back for some serious listening.

    Keep calm and mod on!

    @muncybob
    Again my thanks for the BH5. When you do the push test look CLOSELY at the woofers when you push in the passive radiator. While your hand is holding the PR in look to see if the woofers move back inward while your hand is still and holding the PR in. If the woofers move then you got air leakage! I discovered it's far easier to see when the cabinet in flat on it's back on the floor.

    Laying on their backs is not how you test for air leaks because you now have this thing called gravity to deal with. In addition, as Nightfall noted, the drivers will retract regardless. The time span is 3 to 5 seconds.
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  • nbrowsernbrowser Posts: 6,531
    Ah memories of the ring install...I've done the 194 upgrade since so...

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    Living room: Samsung UN55KU7000 4K UHD HDR 55 inch TV, Marantz CD6004, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon, Parasound zPhono, Mac Mini, Oppo BDP-93, XBox One S 2Tb, Kenwood DPX792BH car deck for radio purposes, Marantz SR5010 AVR, Parasound HCA-1200II, Front SDA 2 modded with Larrys Rings and RD0-194-1 tweeters, Rear Onkyo SKF-4800 Towers, Center CSiA6, BOOM Tannoy TS2.12 Sub, Audioquest Evergreen interconnects just about everywhere except from AVR to amp, MIT Terminator 4, MIT AVT3 speaker cables with extra terminals covered up Monitor 5 Jr+ in the wings for a center channel.

    Bedroom: Mac Mini, XBox One 500Gb+2TB External, Control Marantz SR6008 powering the top halves of the towers, Dumb amp Harman Kardon HK3490 powering the lower halves of the towers, RTiA7 passively bi-amped, Alpine CDA-9886 car deck for radio purposes, Schiit Asgard 2, Sony MDR-1R.

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    That's offensive and not audio related. I'm telling! :#
  • VR3VR3 Posts: 21,785
    Looking good! :)
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  • muncybobmuncybob Posts: 1,587
    On the push test, the drivers will retract slightly but then will maintain their outward position for 5+ seconds...never really timed it but it was more than 5 seconds I'm sure. I'm glad I had my pool table to work on my cabinets!

    So, if I was interested in going to the next level of making my 2B's TL, besides a new tweeter what is needed. My x-overs are already done with sonic caps, mills, etc. I must say, I'm fairly happy with the way they sound now but as usual you don't know what you don't know.
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  • honestaquarianhonestaquarian Posts: 1,858
    The rings will be next.
    Now that I think of it the woofers did hold in place for a few seconds after they settled.I'm still sealing the cabinets though. I've already started doing it so..........
    Living room Home theater: Upgrade Company modified Onkyo PR-SC5509,Sunfire Cinema grand Signature 5 channel amp(1st gen),Carver TFM-45,Carver M-400a,Panasonic TC-P50ST60 50" Plasma(last gen before Plasma production stopped)Pioneer Elite DVL-91,Oppo Digital BDP-103,TiVo Roamio Plus,Nakamich BX-300,Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type VxMR cartridge,Polk SDA-SRS 3.1 TL(with RD-0198 tweeters),Polk CS-1000P(with SL-6506 tweeter),Polk Monitor 5jr(with RD-0194 tweeters),Polk RT-35i (1),Polk Mini Monitor,Polk PSW150(2),Monster Power HTPS 7000 MKII Signature series,Monster Power AVS 2000 Signature Series,Various MIT,Monster,Upgrade Company and Belden interconnect,power,HDMI,Coax and Toslink Digital and speaker cables.

    Bedroom 2 channel system:Integra DTM 40.4,Nakamichi BX-100,TiVo mini,Musical Fidelity X-LPS,X-PSU,Carver TFM-25,Sony KV-34XBR970(last of the widescreen tube sets before production stopped)Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type V MR cartridge,Polk RT-55(with SL-6506 tweeters),Polk PSW-200 in plexiglass(2),Sony Playstation 3 slim.Monster Power HTPS-5100MKII,Various Kimber,Audioquest and MIT interconnects and speaker cables.
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 37,669
    muncybob wrote: »
    On the push test, the drivers will retract slightly but then will maintain their outward position for 5+ seconds...never really timed it but it was more than 5 seconds I'm sure.

    You don't understand the push test. It is the amount of time the drivers stay ALL the way out, before they react to their resting position.

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