America is tired of black only hifi gear
F1nut
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While there are some smart manufacturers that offer a choice there are far too many of you that think we only want black and you couldn't be more wrong. This is America, we demand choice. It's not like you have to make silver gear just for us as you offer silver and black for the rest of the world markets. So, enough already.......bring it on!
Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk
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And maybe a platinum finish.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
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Years ago I looked at equipment like this and thought " I need something different other then just damn black stuff". At that time I decided to get Silver rails on my Salamander stand. Then Rotel and got Silver face plates.
I was considering getting all Silver everything. I thought that would be badass. My TV then was silver.
Today I care less about the face colors, I'm actually very cool with flat black gear. I do however wish Pioneer Elite would come back with the Urusei Finish and I'd even be cool with Rosewood side panels again. last of the greats if you will.
I get it as I think about these things from time to time.
Dan
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I am good with flat black. I thought of silver for my new Halo but was concerned I would tire of it easily, so black it is.2 channel: Anthem 225 Integrated amp; Parasound Ztuner; TechnicsTT SL1350; Vincent PHO-8 phono pre; Marantz CD6005 spinner; Polk SDA2BTL's; LAT International speaker cables, ZU Mission IC's and power cables all into a PS Audio Dectet Power center.
Other; M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage. All vintage Polk have had crossover rebuilds and tweeter upgrades.
The best way to predict the future is to invent it.
It is imperative that we recognize that an opinion is not a fact.
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I want a RAINBOW OPTION DANNNG IT!"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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And if you get a scratch, where do you find black paint.
Anaheim Hills CA,
HT 5.1: Anthem MRX 720 / BDP-Denon DBT1713UD / Polkaudio LSiM703 / W4S mAmp's / Polkaudio LSiM706c / Polkaudio LSiM702F/X's / SVS PC12-NSD / Panasonic TC P55VT30
2 Channel: Rogue RP-5 / WireWorld Electra power cord / Marantz TT-15S1/ Ortofon - Quintet Black MC / Marantz NA8005 DAC / W4S mAmp's / Synology DS 216+ll-4TB / Polkaudio LSiM703 -
We live in a free market and it is simply a case of supply and demand. Through marketing research, there appears to be little demand in North America for other than black.
I dunno X, in my over half a century of walking this planet, I've yet to come across a survey that asked me which color I prefer or would like to see. I don't know who is doing this marketing, but it doesn't appear to be happening in the audio community of which the products will be used.
I would imagine black/silver is simply the most wide spread acceptable colors in audio gear, but not necessarily the preference of many. Cost controls probably play into it as well.
A good example would be TT's....many different colors today.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Black being a neutral color is why it is more prevalent. Much like the women's little black dress, it goes with anything.2 channel: Anthem 225 Integrated amp; Parasound Ztuner; TechnicsTT SL1350; Vincent PHO-8 phono pre; Marantz CD6005 spinner; Polk SDA2BTL's; LAT International speaker cables, ZU Mission IC's and power cables all into a PS Audio Dectet Power center.
Other; M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage. All vintage Polk have had crossover rebuilds and tweeter upgrades.
The best way to predict the future is to invent it.
It is imperative that we recognize that an opinion is not a fact.
Imagine making politics your entire personality. -
My tube amp is silver black and GOLD. Could have had silver on silver, black on silver or gold on silver and chose this scheme. Gold is nice too.My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160
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motorhead43026 wrote: »Black being a neutral color is why it is more prevalent. Much like the women's little black dress, it goes with anything.
Ha....when it comes to womans dresses....the best dress is one left on the floor.
HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
I guess I'm ok with black gear since it's been so widespread, but at the same time the silver Halo does look sweet. I do like a nice light wood/glass rack with light colored components though.
Of course, this comes to mind also..lol.
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I generally prefer black but since the Threshold's are silver I will be paring them with a silver Modwright LS 100. The amps will stand out sitting on Walnut amp stands with silver coned feet
2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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txcoastal1 wrote: »I generally prefer black but since the Threshold's are silver I will be paring them with a silver Modwright LS 100. The amps will stand out sitting on Walnut amp stands with silver coned feet
Sweet stands...very nice.
Not dismissing the amps either...
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Granite works for me.
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“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
John you know I still drool over those amps2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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I posted this awhile back. Not mine, but what a beauty this is in black!
Anaheim Hills CA,
HT 5.1: Anthem MRX 720 / BDP-Denon DBT1713UD / Polkaudio LSiM703 / W4S mAmp's / Polkaudio LSiM706c / Polkaudio LSiM702F/X's / SVS PC12-NSD / Panasonic TC P55VT30
2 Channel: Rogue RP-5 / WireWorld Electra power cord / Marantz TT-15S1/ Ortofon - Quintet Black MC / Marantz NA8005 DAC / W4S mAmp's / Synology DS 216+ll-4TB / Polkaudio LSiM703 -
We live in a free market and it is simply a case of supply and demand. Through marketing research, there appears to be little demand in North America for other than black.
I dunno X, in my over half a century of walking this planet, I've yet to come across a survey that asked me which color I prefer or would like to see. I don't know who is doing this marketing, but it doesn't appear to be happening in the audio community of which the products will be used.
I would imagine black/silver is simply the most wide spread acceptable colors in audio gear, but not necessarily the preference of many. Cost controls probably play into it as well.
A good example would be TT's....many different colors today.
Do you believe that we live in a free market and it is simply a case of supply and demand? Demand is determined through market research and there are various methods that can be used to determine demand.
Do you believe the choice would be there if there were sufficient demand?
Well, yes and no! Your "need" and "desire" for a certain product is also created and imprinted through advertising, etc. It's NOT just marketing, it's also indoctrination. No rational being needs to change his/her clothes as often as the fashion industry changes their styles. No rational human needs a new car every year or couple of years, and so on. Young females on red cars scantily clad? Twenty somethings chilling at home to the latest 4K wireless tech. Photo shopped images and videos of fast food? Sure marketing is important. But creating markets, fabricating them, and selling them are equally so. And since our society is so wonderfully materialistic. Since consuming and spending is almost all that gives life meaning these days for most people (how sad), the market becomes a giant breast that provides sustenance for its infants and keeps them forever dependent. lol
Back to Jesse's post. Anyone who has traveled extensively in East Asia has seen the plethora of platinum, gold, and silver faced offerings in audio. In fact, they are preferred there. You'd have a tough time buying a black one!Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!
Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
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I posted this awhile back. Not mine, but what a beauty this is in black!
That black faceplate came about because an American wanted one, so he had them made and sells them now. Marantz didn't offer it in America at the time, your only choice was silver. Just as the only choice Marantz offers now in America is black, while they offer silver and black to the rest of the entire effing world.
It's about CHOICE!!!
Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Where can you get silver paint?
2 channel: Anthem 225 Integrated amp; Parasound Ztuner; TechnicsTT SL1350; Vincent PHO-8 phono pre; Marantz CD6005 spinner; Polk SDA2BTL's; LAT International speaker cables, ZU Mission IC's and power cables all into a PS Audio Dectet Power center.
Other; M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage. All vintage Polk have had crossover rebuilds and tweeter upgrades.
The best way to predict the future is to invent it.
It is imperative that we recognize that an opinion is not a fact.
Imagine making politics your entire personality. -
I posted this awhile back. Not mine, but what a beauty this is in black!
That black faceplate came about because an American wanted one, so he had them made and sells them now. Marantz didn't offer it in America at the time, your only choice was silver. Just as the only choice Marantz offers now in America is black, while they offer silver and black to the rest of the entire effing world.
It's about CHOICE!!!
No joke. I was excited to see the new Marantz 7010 in silver only to find out it was not available in the states. I settled with black.
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I'm okay with black. I do wish we could go back to gear with metal silver faces and real wood accents though.
Soooo purdy
afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
Village Idiot of Club Polk -
I'm okay with black. I do wish we could go back to gear with metal silver faces and real wood accents though.
Soooo purdy
I'll give Yamaha some credit, they are offering some of their products in silver and black with wood side panels in the US today.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Wood rocks on audio gear IMO. I love the Dodd pre I have for having a wood faceplate.....looks especially good in-between the wood subs and mains.
One of my favorite looks for faceplates is Burmester. Very nice!
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
I started will all black gear, but the Shunyata Triton was silver, but they now also offer black. Anyway, as I upgraded gear, silver was the only option, and now the two channel is all silver. Except for the Triton in the HT, all that gear is black. Silver would be a disaster in the HT as it reflects light.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits. -
I have the Denon POA 2200 amp & Denon PRA 1100 both w-wood side & even the Sony cd player w-wood sides & all being black & being that age era im ok with them... Then there's new tube int amps that are silver & i prefer silver. I prefer meters too but cant/dont want to afford them in newer gear
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I wish they would put those meters on an integrated priced less than a good used car. They can't be that expensive to implement.afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
Village Idiot of Club Polk -
Wyred for sound offers their gear in black or silver.. I think Yamaha has some nice looking gear today as well..
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They (Yamaha) always did...
DSC_0241 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
(in the interest of full and complete disclosure -- I am something of a fanboy)
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I'm with you Larry I like mine to be so subdued that when the walk by creeps come looking in my window they can't see it. Yamaha tried several colors back in the 80's and they didn't sell well.
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I'm with you Larry I like mine to be so subdued that when the walk by creeps come looking in my window they can't see it. Yamaha tried several colors back in the 80's and they didn't sell well.
Hey now, I take offense to that. I wasn't looking at the gear....you need to tell the wife to stop prancing around in front of the windows in those low cut jammies. HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's
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