RTI10 and Pioneer SC-1523-K

Hi,
I've been looking to upgrade my Monitor 50 and CS1 to the RTI10 and CSI5.

I keep reading that these speakers require a lot more power than the Monitor line.

My 1523-K specs show:
Power Output: Watts per Channel (1kHz@8ohm) 135 Watts x 9

Is this enough power? Will I need an external amp?

Am I better off with the Monitor 70? I really want an upgrade in clarity for movies and music. Movies/TV = 85%, 15% music/gaming.

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,708
    If that Pioneer has class D amplification it should be able to deliver its rated power to 5 channels, after that the wpc will drop.

    As for your question, it depends. The only way you will know is to buy those speakers and try it out for yourself.
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  • Thanks for the response. I've read that the RTI line needs a lot of power so I wasn't sure if my 1523k would do w/o external power.

    The AVR is Class D.

  • slk55amg
    slk55amg Posts: 305
    You have a powerful receiver, probably would work out fine. An external amp would make it better yet.
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,638
    Thanks for the response. I've read that the RTI line needs a lot of power so I wasn't sure if my 1523k would do w/o external power.

    The AVR is Class D.

    Fot HT you should be fine. I don't see a sub listed, do you have one?

  • mrloren
    mrloren Posts: 2,454
    The 1523 is a nice unit, my bro has has the 1522 with Monitor 70's and it servers him well till he turns it up to ear bleed loud. As long as you dont try to get it to 110db you should be fine with the RTi10 without an amp
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,902
    I sense your bro will be calling soon for new tweets. lol
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  • mrloren
    mrloren Posts: 2,454
    tonyb wrote: »
    I sense your bro will be calling soon for new tweets. lol

    or hearing aids
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
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  • Hi guys,
    I'm actually thinking of the RTI8s now with an SVS Sub PB1000.
  • Or the Rythmik LV12R.
  • mrloren
    mrloren Posts: 2,454
    Hi guys,
    I'm actually thinking of the RTI8s now with an SVS Sub PB1000.

    That would be nice, or a PB2000 can never have too much sub.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
    Family Room:LG QNED80 75", Onkyo RZ50 Emotiva XPA3 GEN3 Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM. Main: Polk LsiM 705Center: Polk LSiM 704CFront High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT Surrounds: Polk S15 Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
    Bed Room; Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270Main: Polk Signature S20Center: Polk Signature S35Rear: Polk R15 Sub: SVS SB2000
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,638
    mrloren wrote: »
    Hi guys,
    I'm actually thinking of the RTI8s now with an SVS Sub PB1000.

    That would be nice, or a PB2000 can never have too much sub.

    The new PC2000 looks interesting as well. Small footprint, digs to 16hz.
  • quicksilvergts
    quicksilvergts Posts: 274
    edited December 2014
    here is sound and vision output on that receiver(same as 1523)

    depends on listening habits, therefore an amp. the rti8's are nice my best friend has them driven by a Pioneer SC-1223.
    He originally wanted the Rti10/12 but I told him " bro, the way you jam your punk rock and classic rock you will be up a creek right out of the marina". Ear piercing at times, sometimes when I hear his Rti8's I tend to get little nervous lol. they sound very good and if coupled with a SVS should be a very good match no matter what model sub you got.

    http://www.soundandvision.com/content/pioneer-elite-sc-71-av-receiver

    Pioneer Elite SC-71 AV Receiver Test Bench







    0.1% THD 1.0% THD
    2 Channels Continuously Driven, 8 ohm loads: 120.6 watts 146.0 watts
    5 Channels Continuously Driven, 8 ohm loads: 106.7 watts 127.9 watts
    7 Channels Continuously Driven, 8 ohm loads: 95.1 watts 106.8 watts

    Analog frequency response in Pure Direct mode:
    –0.11 dB at 10 Hz
    –0.04 dB at 20 Hz
    +1.16 dB at 20 kHz
    –1.18 dB at 50 kHz

    Analog frequency response with signal processing:
    –0.24 dB at 10 Hz
    –0.10 dB at 20 Hz
    +0.77 dB at 20 kHz
    –57.62 dB at 50 kHz



    This graph shows that the SC-71’s left channel, from CD input to speaker output with two channels driving 8-ohm loads, reaches 0.1% distortion at 120.6 watts and 1% distortion at 146.0 watts. Into 4 ohms, the amplifier reaches 0.1% distortion at 204.3 watts and 1% distortion at 247.3 watts.

    There was no multichannel input to measure. THD+N from the CD input to the speaker output was less than 0.010% at 1 kHz when driving 2.83 volts into an 8-ohm load. Crosstalk at 1 kHz driving 2.83 volts into an 8-ohm load was –93.85 dB left to right and –95.21 dB right to left. The signal-to-noise ratio with an 8-ohm load from 10 Hz to 24 kHz with “A” weighting was –100.00 dBrA.
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