Epicure Model 1

nguyendotnguyendot Posts: 3,583
edited October 2013 in 2 Channel Audio
Recently met a guy locally that is my age and finds all sorts of random speakers for cheap. He of course flips them but gives me what I consider a good deal still.
I got some Klipsch Quartets for $200 the other week, a little higher but still a deal for me. He's offered me some KG 3.5s for $100, some SM112s for $130, and last night a pair of Epicure Model 1s. He didn't put a price on them yet, but he did tell me they need a lot of work. What would a rough pair with maybe 3-4 refoams and a refinish be worthwhile? I don't plan on flipping them for a profit, if anything sell them for what I have in them years down the line. It will be my first full refurb, so a learning experience as well.

I get pictures of them tonight, and I'll post them in here. I have no idea what they're worth as I've never dealt with Epicure speakers. They do look fairly cool though.
Main Surround -
Epson 8350 Projector/ Elite Screens 120" / Pioneer Elite SC-35 / Sunfire Signature / Focal Chorus 716s / Focal Chorus CC / Polk MC80 / Polk PSW150 sub

Bedroom - Sharp Aquos 70" 650 / Pioneer SC-1222k / Polk RT-55 / Polk CS-250

Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD
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  • DollarDaveDollarDave Posts: 2,540
    edited September 2013
    Tough to say what they are worth, maybe $75 or less...probably $50. It'll take a pro to refinish those cabinets as the veneer is very nice but very thin. The drivers will no doubt need re-foaming and those kits are readily available on the auction site. If the tweeters are shot, that could get expensive, but humanspeakers.com should be some help there. If the crossovers need work (they will), then you can add a few more dollars for that. Probably need fresh grill cloth and that is a dark brown, not a black. Pretty soon, you'll have a couple hundred into them.

    Once upon a time, and maybe once again, those were nice speakers. If you are interested in passing them on, let me know, I am up for the challenge and have the time..
  • soundfreak1soundfreak1 Posts: 2,823
    edited September 2013
    Big fan of some of the early EPI speakers but they have very little value 50
    00 if tjey need nothing done to them if they need work pass for free. The klipsch 3,5's ( i have. Had a couple pair in the past and would not pay over 100.00 for a mint pair. Have bought and sold for 25/50 for nice pairs
    bit if you like them it up to you.
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
  • halo71halo71 Posts: 4,382
    edited September 2013
    We are talking about these right? I would think they be worth more than $50-$75 for sure. That is a pretty rare model I think. Or at least one that does not come up for sale very often. Maybe I am wrong.....

    epicure-1.jpg
    --Gary--
  • soundfreak1soundfreak1 Posts: 2,823
    edited September 2013
    I dont reconize "a model 1", there was a mt1, monitor 1 and monitor 1 te, but i dont reconize these pictured either. They look cool enough, and i'll agree they would be worth more just in the cool factor alone but most not. However i WOULD kill for some model 3.0 towers ( had a pyramid shape ). The early ones ( before Harmon international bought them ) were great sounding just build quality was cheep
    the drivers and xovers ( Boroughs design) had a very good sound, especially for the price. I still have a box full of parts and xovets from many restoration projects i did years ago.i had at least a dozen pair over the years. Great bang for the buck just not critical listening quility.imho.
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
  • boston1450boston1450 Posts: 5,928
    edited September 2013
    halo71 wrote: »
    We are talking about these right? I would think they be worth more than $50-$75 for sure. That is a pretty rare model I think. Or at least one that does not come up for sale very often. Maybe I am wrong.....

    epicure-1.jpg
    those are beautiful speakers. Do they sound as good as they look ? Never heard a pair like those. Other model's Epicure i have heard,sounded very nice to the ears
    Randy in Maine
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  • cnhcnh Posts: 13,310
    edited September 2013
    I remember seeing a pair of those at the main Macys store in NYC when they still had an A/V department. Never heard them though.

    Does anyone know if this is still in the OK period of Epicure or the decline period? As I remember it; EPI (related to Epicure) goes south in the late '80s. If you have pre late '80s EPIs you're golden. If they're late '80s or later you probably have some S##ty horns, etc. in your speakers and not the air spring or inverted dome burhoe tweeter?

    cnh
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 18,976
    edited September 2013
    EPI, of course, was an acronym - Epicure Products Inc. of Newburyport, MA (originally).
    In the 1970s, the Epicure brand name was reserved for their top-quality stuff.
    The entry-level Epicure was the "10" - essentially the same, I expect, as the EPI 100.
    http://www.humanspeakers.com/e/epicure-10.htm

    Looks like the Epicure 1 was a bit later - indeed, the one pictured in an earlier post to this thread.
    http://www.humanspeakers.com/e/epicure-1.htm
  • George GrandGeorge Grand Posts: 12,272
    edited September 2013
    AR went south in the 80's, and I'd give a nut for a pair of 1985 vintage MGC-1's.

    Those Epicure look like some thought went into them.
  • halo71halo71 Posts: 4,382
    edited September 2013
    Those AR's look very interesting indeed!

    mgc1_02-4.jpeg
    --Gary--
  • boston1450boston1450 Posts: 5,928
    edited September 2013
    AR went south in the 80's, and I'd give a nut for a pair of 1985 vintage MGC-1's.

    Those Epicure look like some thought went into them.
    George i have never seen those kind of AR's before either. They are beautiful. Ive seen/heard some old AR's & they sounded quite nice from what i remembered
    Randy in Maine
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  • nguyendotnguyendot Posts: 3,583
    edited September 2013
    Picked them up in a package deal with awful dbx sound field v's and a passive dbx 15" sub. Currently deodorizing them overnight then taking a look in the morning.
    Main Surround -
    Epson 8350 Projector/ Elite Screens 120" / Pioneer Elite SC-35 / Sunfire Signature / Focal Chorus 716s / Focal Chorus CC / Polk MC80 / Polk PSW150 sub

    Bedroom - Sharp Aquos 70" 650 / Pioneer SC-1222k / Polk RT-55 / Polk CS-250

    Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD
  • halo71halo71 Posts: 4,382
    edited September 2013
    I got that same DBX setup last year for my garage. They are not even garage worthy speakers! lol
    --Gary--
  • nguyendotnguyendot Posts: 3,583
    edited September 2013
    Yeah I'm going to put them on craigslist to get rid of them. I really don't need them but it was a package deal.
    Main Surround -
    Epson 8350 Projector/ Elite Screens 120" / Pioneer Elite SC-35 / Sunfire Signature / Focal Chorus 716s / Focal Chorus CC / Polk MC80 / Polk PSW150 sub

    Bedroom - Sharp Aquos 70" 650 / Pioneer SC-1222k / Polk RT-55 / Polk CS-250

    Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD
  • George GrandGeorge Grand Posts: 12,272
    edited September 2013
    halo71 wrote: »
    Those AR's look very interesting indeed!

    mgc1_02-4.jpeg

    This was a project headed by Ken Kantor, later of NHT fame.
  • classic carlclassic carl Posts: 519
    edited October 2013
    However i WOULD kill for some model 3.0 towers ( had a pyramid shape ).

    I have a pair of the Model 2.0 and they image like crazy. There is a refoamed, recapped pair of the Model 3.0 for sale on another forum right now. I'm waiting to hear back from the seller. They are only about 2 hours away from me.
    Main System:
    Proton AA-1150 ~ Yamaha C-4 ~ Furman Elite-15 DMi ~ Sennheiser HD600 ~ Monitor Audio Silver RS8 ~ Monitor Audio FB210 ~ Martin Logan Dynamo
    Nakamichi CR-1A ~ Marantz CD5003 ~ Squeezebox Classic ~ Music Hall dac25.2 ~ Dual 1229/Acutex M312 III STR ~ Music Hall mmf-5.1/Goldring 1012GX ~ Music Hall Cruise Control 2.0

    Home Theater:
    LG 47GA6400 ~ Yamaha RX-V800 ~ Furman Elite-15 DMi ~ Marantz DV6001 ~ Polk Audio Monitor 5Jr+ Series 2 ~ RT55i ~ RT35i ~ CS400i ~ (2) PSW450

  • soundfreak1soundfreak1 Posts: 2,823
    edited October 2013
    I have a pair of the Model 2.0 and they image like crazy. There is a refoamed, recapped pair of the Model 3.0 for sale on another forum right now. I'm waiting to hear back from the seller. They are only about 2 hours away from me.

    Oh crap! If you dont take them let me know please. Thanks
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
  • nguyendotnguyendot Posts: 3,583
    edited October 2013
    That's pretty cool. I'm about to order the refoam kit for the Model 1's. I had to de-odorize them as they had the smell of funk from the previous owner.
    Main Surround -
    Epson 8350 Projector/ Elite Screens 120" / Pioneer Elite SC-35 / Sunfire Signature / Focal Chorus 716s / Focal Chorus CC / Polk MC80 / Polk PSW150 sub

    Bedroom - Sharp Aquos 70" 650 / Pioneer SC-1222k / Polk RT-55 / Polk CS-250

    Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD
  • classic carlclassic carl Posts: 519
    edited October 2013
    Did you get the equalizer with those Model 1's?
    Main System:
    Proton AA-1150 ~ Yamaha C-4 ~ Furman Elite-15 DMi ~ Sennheiser HD600 ~ Monitor Audio Silver RS8 ~ Monitor Audio FB210 ~ Martin Logan Dynamo
    Nakamichi CR-1A ~ Marantz CD5003 ~ Squeezebox Classic ~ Music Hall dac25.2 ~ Dual 1229/Acutex M312 III STR ~ Music Hall mmf-5.1/Goldring 1012GX ~ Music Hall Cruise Control 2.0

    Home Theater:
    LG 47GA6400 ~ Yamaha RX-V800 ~ Furman Elite-15 DMi ~ Marantz DV6001 ~ Polk Audio Monitor 5Jr+ Series 2 ~ RT55i ~ RT35i ~ CS400i ~ (2) PSW450

  • nguyendotnguyendot Posts: 3,583
    edited October 2013
    Not yet, the seller is digging for it. Gives me time to refoam them.
    Main Surround -
    Epson 8350 Projector/ Elite Screens 120" / Pioneer Elite SC-35 / Sunfire Signature / Focal Chorus 716s / Focal Chorus CC / Polk MC80 / Polk PSW150 sub

    Bedroom - Sharp Aquos 70" 650 / Pioneer SC-1222k / Polk RT-55 / Polk CS-250

    Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD
  • justimcjustimc Posts: 1
    Hi new here.i just bought a pair of these for 50.00. All the speakers need refoaming. They didnt come with the eq. They have the top covers and there in good shape. They have the bottom covers but the wood is broke on both of them. Are they worth fixing. I was going to use them for my fronts for surround set up. Thanks
  • skrolskrol Posts: 2,649
    Here is some history on Epicure (EPI) and Genesis speakers.
    http://www.humanspeakers.com/e/epimodels.htm
    Stan

    Main 2ch:
    Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i

    HT:
    Denon AVR-888, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW10, Marantz UD5005, Panasonic TC-P42S60

    Other stuff:
    Denon: DRA-835R, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, TSi100; Pioneer: CT-6R, PL-530; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, Polk: RM7, Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii
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