Two PAIRS of Carver Platinums in a Sunfire!

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  • nguyendotnguyendot Posts: 3,561
    Sorry to revive this, but I picked up a pair of Amazings today and they're mismatched. One has 2x30" ribbons (yellow) and one has 1x60" silver. Both have they honeycomb woofers.

    The 2x30" ribbons are very muted. The woofers don't seem to play at the same level. It looks like someone messed with the crossovers and they're not wired correctly. Does anyone have a wiring diagram for the crossover?
    Main Surround -
    Epson 8350 Projector/ Elite Screens 120" / Pioneer Elite SC-35 / Sunfire Signature / Focal Chorus 716s / Focal Chorus CC / Polk MC80 / Polk PSW150 sub

    Bedroom - Sharp Aquos 70" 650 / Pioneer SC-1222k / Polk RT-55 / Polk CS-250

    Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD
  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 2,185
    edited October 15
    Amazing Jordan Carvers :p


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  • SCompRacerSCompRacer Posts: 6,570
    Three schematics in the manual I have....

    Date '86 schematic

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    Date '89 Platinum

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    Date '89 Silver

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  • nguyendotnguyendot Posts: 3,561
    I will try to read this and look at the crossovers. I feel someone tried to hot-rod these or had no idea what they're doing. The woofers seem to come off the same terminals as the input on the crossover which doesn't make sense. I have no idea how to read a schematic but I should be able to make due. I'll take pics.
    Main Surround -
    Epson 8350 Projector/ Elite Screens 120" / Pioneer Elite SC-35 / Sunfire Signature / Focal Chorus 716s / Focal Chorus CC / Polk MC80 / Polk PSW150 sub

    Bedroom - Sharp Aquos 70" 650 / Pioneer SC-1222k / Polk RT-55 / Polk CS-250

    Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 38,143
    There's a lot of things about those speakers that doesn't make sense.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • xschopxschop Posts: 634
    The truth ranger rides again lol.
    On a serious note, it would be nice to see them resto/modded. I'll be watching this project and hope to see it brought to fruition.
  • nguyendotnguyendot Posts: 3,561
    I'll gauge how much work itll take. If not I'm going to part them out or resell them. They're huge and I can't store them easily.
    Main Surround -
    Epson 8350 Projector/ Elite Screens 120" / Pioneer Elite SC-35 / Sunfire Signature / Focal Chorus 716s / Focal Chorus CC / Polk MC80 / Polk PSW150 sub

    Bedroom - Sharp Aquos 70" 650 / Pioneer SC-1222k / Polk RT-55 / Polk CS-250

    Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 16,492
    Just FYI... my project died a while ago, as the cost of the parts far exceeded the value of just buying a pair that already worked.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono twin chassis phono preamplifier, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Stradivari v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X1 two channel preamplifier Signed by Poppa himself, Pioneer PDD 9MkII SACD Player, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo BDP-95 Bluray, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds

  • xschopxschop Posts: 634
    Are you referring to the Carvers or the Sunfire?
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 16,492
    The sunfire is the car used to haul them. We still have it. B)
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono twin chassis phono preamplifier, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Stradivari v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X1 two channel preamplifier Signed by Poppa himself, Pioneer PDD 9MkII SACD Player, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo BDP-95 Bluray, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds

  • nguyendotnguyendot Posts: 3,561
    They for the most part work, i think the crossover needs rewired but who knows.
    Main Surround -
    Epson 8350 Projector/ Elite Screens 120" / Pioneer Elite SC-35 / Sunfire Signature / Focal Chorus 716s / Focal Chorus CC / Polk MC80 / Polk PSW150 sub

    Bedroom - Sharp Aquos 70" 650 / Pioneer SC-1222k / Polk RT-55 / Polk CS-250

    Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 38,143
    So, the original Amazings with the two ribbons are 4 ohm and the later Platinum series with the 60" ribbons are 8 ohm. I therefore do not believe one can use a 60" ribbon in the original Amazings nor can one use the honeycomb woofers in the Plats.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • nbrowsernbrowser Posts: 6,879
    The sunfire is the car used to haul them. We still have it. B)

    My sympathies.
    Living room: Samsung UN55KU7000 4K UHD HDR 55 inch TV, Marantz CD6004, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon, Parasound zPhono, Mac Mini, Oppo BDP-93, XBox One S 2Tb, Kenwood DPX792BH car deck for radio purposes, Marantz SR5010 AVR, Parasound HCA-1200II, Front SDA 2 modded with Larrys Rings and RD0-194-1 tweeters, Rear Onkyo SKF-4800 Towers, Center CSiA6, BOOM Tannoy TS2.12 Sub, Audioquest Evergreen interconnects just about everywhere except from AVR to amp, MIT Terminator 4, MIT AVT3 speaker cables with extra terminals covered up Monitor 5 Jr+ in the wings for a center channel.
  • mikeyb128mikeyb128 Posts: 2,456
    The sunfire is the car used to haul them. We still have it. B)

    From a sunfire to Demon..... sweeet upgrade :sunglasses:
    2 channel:
    Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP03, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii , Eastern Electric minimax phono pre, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries mini, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
    Theater:
    Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables.

  • nguyendotnguyendot Posts: 3,561
    F1nut wrote: »
    So, the original Amazings with the two ribbons are 4 ohm and the later Platinum series with the 60" ribbons are 8 ohm. I therefore do not believe one can use a 60" ribbon in the original Amazings nor can one use the honeycomb woofers in the Plats.

    Someone either bought two different ones or they hacked these up. My best bet might be to part them out then. The 60" tweeter sounds awesome. The 30" ones sound terrible but I'm thinking someone literally just ran random wires to them.
    Main Surround -
    Epson 8350 Projector/ Elite Screens 120" / Pioneer Elite SC-35 / Sunfire Signature / Focal Chorus 716s / Focal Chorus CC / Polk MC80 / Polk PSW150 sub

    Bedroom - Sharp Aquos 70" 650 / Pioneer SC-1222k / Polk RT-55 / Polk CS-250

    Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 16,492
    mikeyb128 wrote: »
    The sunfire is the car used to haul them. We still have it. B)

    From a sunfire to Demon..... sweeet upgrade :sunglasses:

    I drive a Jaguar XJ now. The Sunfire collects dust because my wife can't sell her first car.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono twin chassis phono preamplifier, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Stradivari v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X1 two channel preamplifier Signed by Poppa himself, Pioneer PDD 9MkII SACD Player, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo BDP-95 Bluray, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds

  • xschopxschop Posts: 634
    Watch those fuel lines on the Sunfire. That car can quickly earn it's name. I test-drove an XJ with a cammed LT1 back in the day. He could never get enough rear tire unless he tubbed it.
  • ALL212ALL212 Posts: 628
    Tell me more of your ribbons. I’ve rebuilt silvers and know of two places that are refurbing ribbons. But I might be in the market for the 60.
    Aaron
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 27,621
    I just can't figure out with a new baby how you have the time to consider a project that big.
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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 7,828
    tonyb wrote: »
    I just can't figure out with a new baby how you have the time to consider a project that big.

    Tony Johns project was several years ago. This was resurrected nguyendot.
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 16,492
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    I just can't figure out with a new baby how you have the time to consider a project that big.

    Tony Johns project was several years ago. This was resurrected nguyendot.

    Take it easy on Tony... he's a Bears/Cubs fan....
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono twin chassis phono preamplifier, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Stradivari v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X1 two channel preamplifier Signed by Poppa himself, Pioneer PDD 9MkII SACD Player, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo BDP-95 Bluray, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds

  • nguyendotnguyendot Posts: 3,561
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    I just can't figure out with a new baby how you have the time to consider a project that big.

    Tony Johns project was several years ago. This was resurrected nguyendot.

    I have the new baby. Like literally a week old. Refurbing some KP-201 horns too (industrial Heresy IIs).

    And picked up a few new receivers from Magnolia in the past 2 weeks.
    Main Surround -
    Epson 8350 Projector/ Elite Screens 120" / Pioneer Elite SC-35 / Sunfire Signature / Focal Chorus 716s / Focal Chorus CC / Polk MC80 / Polk PSW150 sub

    Bedroom - Sharp Aquos 70" 650 / Pioneer SC-1222k / Polk RT-55 / Polk CS-250

    Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 7,828
    nguyendot wrote: »
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    I just can't figure out with a new baby how you have the time to consider a project that big.

    Tony Johns project was several years ago. This was resurrected nguyendot.

    I have the new baby. Like literally a week old. Refurbing some KP-201 horns too (industrial Heresy IIs).

    And picked up a few new receivers from Magnolia in the past 2 weeks.

    My bad I'm sorry Tony call off waste management.....palease B)

    Congrats on the new rugrat o:) <3
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